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I have cluster-features, do I count?
May 31st, 2013 at 11:06pm
 
Hi.  My wife just found this forum while doing searches on Nerve Blocks for me (I'm having one this coming Wednesday, and I'm a little nervous), and she thought I should join so I could talk to people who'd understand a lot more then she feels she can.

Technically, I think my diagnosis is atypical migraines with complex and cluster features - do I count?  I've had migraines since 1st grade (I remember the ER doc bewilderedly telling my mother that he had never heard of children so young having migraines).  Headaches run in the family on both sides.  My Mom and my departed Great Aunt on my Mom's side both suffer (Great Aunt had no pain though, just light sensitivity, nausea, and auras), and my Dad recently started having Cluster Headaches.

I have this vivid memory of my GP looking at me and telling me that there are no such things as atypical migraines, but mine are weird, so he was going to call them atypical migraines.  (He's a funny guy, my GP.)  Since then, I've developed the cluster features, and the lovely "probably a related complex symptom" experience of pseudo seizures.  I'm on my third neurologist (the first one was an absolute idiot who couldn't look past the fact that I also had psych issues.  The second was useless and never wanted to tweak my meds despite lack of improvement), but am about to move to a fifth since she's leaving her practice soon.  I've been assured I'll like the new Lady though - and she was the Neuro Consult one of the times I was up at the University Hospital ER, so I vaguely remember thinking she was nice.

I'm also bipolar, so navigating changes or additions to my meds are a minefield, since so many headache preventatives are also psych meds (usually stabilizers) and I've run afoul of that once already, when they tried to switch one of my preventatives to Depakote.

Sometimes I go a few weeks with daily headaches that don't get much above a 6 on the 10-scale.  Sometimes I'll spend three consecutive days (or more) going to the ER, praying they'll find something that will at least cut the edge enough that I can get some sleep.  I have nothing but sympathy for people with true cluster headaches, because I've seen my dad go for more than a week and a half with the same major headache.  He asked how I do it; I wondered how he does.

I don't get any auras, which sucks.  Sometimes a headache will slam into me out of nowhere, starting at an 8 or a 9.  I'm mildly light-sensitive all the time.  Hardly a day goes by I don't at least have a headache that hits a 4 or so.  (I didn't realize that until the new Neuro had me start keeping a detailed headache diary.)  And after the really bad ones, I'll get these odd "echo" headaches, as though the full headache is still there, but I can't feel the pain - as though the pain is on a different frequency or something.

I have to drive almost an hour to get to the ER now.  My local ER had pretty much decided I was just a drug seeker (despite the fact that when they used to try to give it to me, I always tried to talk them OUT of giving me Morphine.  Stuff gives me nasty rebound headaches half the time, plus I hate the idea of narcotics as often as I have headaches that bad; and anyway, from what I understand, they're not really good for headaches in the first place), and not only is the level of care at the University Hospital better, that's where my new Neuro is out of, and I like her to be able to access on the record what they did, and when I was in - just in case I forget something when I tell her about it.

What else is there to say?  I have two cats and a dog.  (Who, if we can get the money together, we really want to arrange training as a service/therapy dog for me.)  My wife is the most awesome woman in the world.  I write, when I'm feeling well enough.  I'm on SSDI for the headaches, the bipolar, and a few other issues.

Headaches really, really, really suck.

I hope you think I'm worthy to join your internet tribe here.  Wink
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Re: I have cluster-features, do I count?
Reply #1 - Jun 1st, 2013 at 7:46am
 
Because of your medical history I would strongly urge you to restrict guidance in medical care to a psychiatrist and a headache specialist.

With two complex, difficult diagnoses, trying to self-treat yourself can knock you off balance--understand?
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LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

2.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

3. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register; On-line screen to find a physician.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register NEW certification program for "Headache Medicine" by the United Council for Neurologic Subspecialties, an independent, non-profit, professional medical organization.
        Since this is a new program, the initial listing is limited and so it should be checked each time you have an interest in locating a headache doctor.





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Re: I have cluster-features, do I count?
Reply #2 - Jun 1st, 2013 at 9:03am
 
Of course you're worthy to join this ragtag bunch of misfits!! Grin Grin Of course it's a club NO ONE wants to belong to, you sum it up quite well...headache suck!

However, Bob makes an excellent point. We'll hear you out, support you where we can, be a shoulder to bitch and cry on when you're hurting, but as far as medical advice, yours is a case where any information you find here should be shared with your doctor to prevent any nasty interactions with your current regimen.

Wishing you peace and some pain free time soon.

Joe

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Reply #3 - Jun 1st, 2013 at 2:31pm
 
Thanks for the welcome!

My GP is used as sort of my general contractor to help keep straight what all my specialists are doing.  He personally doesn't do much himself anymore other than direct me to which specialist I should start with when a new problem rears it's head, and keeps me reminded (especially with the Neuro and my Psychiatrist) that I need to cross-check new meds between specialists.

At the moment I have the GP, my current-and-about-to-be-new Neuro's (who are both actually Headache Specialists), a Psychiatrist, a Therapist, an ENT, and I'm nominally under the care of a Pain Management Specialist, since that's where the Neuro sent me to find out about (and as it turns out, get scheduled for) the Nerve Blocks.  I'm not seeing my original Ortho any more, but depending on how the next few months go I may be getting a new one to find out about getting the rod taken back out of my right leg (long, long story).

Sometimes it doesn't seem like I leave the house much except for appointments with different Docs.  At least (nice guy though he is) I don't have to go back to the ENT for a few months unless I get another nasty infection.

The nice thing is though, that except for my Psych care (I totally mistyped that as psycho), everyone is in the same place up at the closest University Hospital, and they're all not only very nice, but seem very skilled.  It's very reassuring to actually have confidence in all the Docs you're seeing.

Again, thanks for the welcome - sorry for any misunderstanding that I was looking for advice - I trust my Docs (get really frustrated that so few things seem to help so often, but I'm sure frustration is common here) - was just nervous about the upcoming nerve block, and a little comforted to find a community of like-pained individuals I could connect and commiserate with.

Off to try the first round defense of a hot shower for today's headache.  Hopefully it stays below a 7, we're supposed to go out to dinner tonight.
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Re: I have cluster-features, do I count?
Reply #4 - Jun 1st, 2013 at 7:37pm
 
Another welcome and yes, you do count, don't worry about that.

With a complex medical background it sure must be fun for each doctor trying to work out what they can and can't give you, so having your GP keep an overall perspective is a great idea, especially for possible drug interactions. A good pharmacist will also be able to help with this too as their specialist knowledge is in this area, plus they normally enjoy getting involved in cases where they get to use their skills rather than just dishing out the standard prescriptions they do all day every day.

Have you discussed using oxygen to abort the CHs with your doctors? It is unlikely to impact the other medication but do check with them on this.
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