Legislation is creeping forward that demands that people who have been prescribed a psychotropic drug, surrender all firearms. The state of New York has already begun doing exactly that. The Feds are talking about making it National and widening the net to include anyone who has been treated for any form of depression or PTSD. I’m an avid gun enthusiast who strongly believes in keeping guns out of the hands of the wrong people, but this is going to impact a whole lot of good guys.

For example: Lithium, Zyprexa and Topamax are medications that have definite off-label uses for CH’s, but they are also enough to tag you as "unsafe."  Anyone who has ever reported feeling depressed, or served in combat may get the same label. If the Affordable Healthcare Act actually gets rolling, that “tag” will have all kinds of potential consequences in the national database.

This is not intended to be a pro-gun post. It’s a warning to think about potential consequences of filling a prescription for certain medications. I’m very concerned about the number of people who won’t seek treatment when they really need it!

A recent case, here in gun friendly Texas: The Feds put this man in the National database so he cannot buy a gun anywhere in the country. He was trying to buy a little .22 rifle.........
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Now add the massive "data mining" clearly being done by NSA and think about things like posts about salad toppings or seeds used to control CH’s.

Just food for thought.

Marc

I think this is ridiculous. Guess I can't buy any more guns (just have to make due with the ones I have - and they're so old they sure nuff ain't registered).

I think we need to go back to letting our kids play cowboys and Indians and use cap guns when they're little. Most of us grew up fine doing that. I probably shot a million Indians before I was ten and haven't had a desire to do so since.

Now I don't know how it is in the rest of the country, but here in Texas - if someone wants a gun.. well it takes about 30 minutes on the street to get one. (yep I've bought some that way).

It's a fact of life that the more you say "no" the more people are going to do it. And the govt should just get the hell out of our business.

If they got everyone's guns - what would be next - everyone's kitchen knives.. get real..

I do have a little bit of an opinion on this one.. 

Mike NZ wrote on Jul 19^th, 2013 at 5:36pm:


You talk like most Texans I know....... I do agree, and I feel that the net result will be that the very people who need the most help won't seek it. That's a very big deal to me.

Why take this draconian, extremist approach? Take your pick from the menu of obvious motives........

The point of my post goes far beyond guns. It's all about our highly personal, individual financial/personal/business/medical/psych history being readily available in a national database. That's a very, very big deal.

Marc

Brew: Yes indeed, Sir. I think you nailed it. To me it's obviously nothing more than a move to get DNA into the data base.

NO, I'm not scanning the night sky looking for black helicopters! But, when a curve ball comes screaming in toward my face - I'm smart enough to duck!

Marc

Callico wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 6:25am:


Wow, Jerry - you too? There has been a rash of people losing their guns around here. One guy lost all of his when they fell out of the boat - waaaaaay out offshore. Another guy had all of his guns stolen by a band of trained circus monkeys who escaped from a traveling carnival in a nearby town.

It's hard to believe, but Texas followed that idiot newspaper in New York - and published a map of all households with three or more guns.

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Marc

Racer1_NC wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:51pm:


Damn - I can't imagine dealing with heavily armed rabid feral chickens - with both a drug problem and diarrhea no less! You guys have it rough!

Marc

Like Barbara, i grew up playing cowboy and indians with my
mates in the woods.I also had a 4 gauge shotgun for rabbit
hunting, but i never felt the need to go out and harm
someone.This is why i think more awareness should be on
someone's mental health rather than gun control.

Hoppy.

I still feel sad for baby Caroline, shot dead by her 5yo brother with his .22 calibre birthday present.

"The little boy is used to shooting the little gun, and it's just one of those crazy accidents," said the coroner.

"It was god's will. It was her time to go, I guess," said granny.

"Everyone thought the gun was unloaded."

A five year old with his own little rifle.

Suffer the little children.

The way things are going now everyone needs anti-depressants.

One day you read about some ridiculous proposal being considered and think there is no possible way it could even be plausible.  Must be some wacky blogger with an obvious extremest agenda.

Time passes and then you catch a glimpse on the news of some self-important elected jackass slipping that very unconstitutional piece of crap into a omnibus spending bill and lauding its dire need and for the betterment of an ignorant society.  Glad they know what's best.

I'll be 58 in a month. I've lived long enough to realize I've lived in the best place and the best time in the history of mankind.  Unfortunately I fear I will live long enough to see it collapse. I hope not for our kids sake.

My wise old Aunt Bev said to me not too long ago..."Honey, I'm glad I'm going out and not coming in. This place is turning to shit."

Steve G

Steve, I have you by a year, and I agree with you whole-heartedly.  We used to play "Army" all the time when I was a kid.  You got shot and you had to count to ten, or twenty-five, or fifty before you could get back into the game and try to shoot one of the others.  We used cap guns (if we could afford caps) or we yelled bang.  One friend used his BB gun.  (we always checked to be sure it was unloaded)  We even played on the school grounds during recess. 

Out of all the guys I used to play with all have turned out to be responsible, honorable people.  (the rest of them, anyway)  None of us have been involved in crime, committed violent acts, and to the best of my knowledge, I'm the only one who has spent time in jail. (As a chaplain  )  Of my five kids, two are serving as Marines, one active, one reserve.  The reserve is a Law Enforcement officer in SC.  My eldest starts with Customs and Border Patrol in a week.  My eldest daughter was a Police Cadet, and then worked 911 before getting married and starting a family.  My youngest is still in HS, but already has her CNA certification, works in a nursing home, and plans to go into nursing.  Must be all that abject violence i was raised with that has skewed my family to make them all such worthless malcontents and scofflaws.  AND, I have been on anti-depressants for this miserable head of mine.

Jerry

I bought my first shotgun, a side by side 12 gauge from my gym teacher with paper route earnings when I was 15 years old. If that took place today that teacher would be castrated.  I carried a swiss army knife to school everyday for all 4 years of high school and nobody gave a rip. Things are really different today.

                 Sean

stevegeebe wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 12:03am:

That's brilliant, things I think but just never said out loud, especially this quote "I've lived long enough to realize I've lived in the best place and the best time in the history of mankind.  Unfortunately I fear I will live long enough to see it collapse. I hope not for our kids sake" I love my country but WOW!! what's going on? Thanks Steve

PFDN Norm