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Re: Alienation and Deprecation
Reply #25 - Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:41am
 
Guiseppi wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 11:03pm:
Hey Vickle....tell Zac I said hi! Grin Grin

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You truly don't have to be a former cop to figure that one out.  Cool

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Reply #26 - Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:46am
 
Maybe I was misunderstood because I am in no way anti-DJ. I thank DJ very much for creating this board. I remember the 2 boards before this one!  I just think that (at that time) the rules applied to newbies and the like, but not to some of the others. I won't name names, so lets call this guy "Jonny the jackbutt" the pirate flag waver. He did nothing but be-little me over and over and over and say BS that was not true. I was forced to quit working back then because of relentless chronic clusters and with a family to support, I had no choice but to apply for disability (GSK required me to at least apply for disability). It was the only way I would be able to get the Imitrex I was requiring at the time. Well, this Jonny the Jackbutt did not like that at all and he went off over it! I think it's great if he was able to continue to work, drink beer everyday, all while having clusters. ?./././ ok?! He sure was nice to me face-to-face at NASHCON 04' though. (He didn't become an arse until after NASHCON) Probably because I towered over him. He's a lot bigger & much tougher behind a keyboard. He coerced his 'friends' into joining his anti-UNsolved terror campaign to rid the board of me, despite the knowledge I have about clusters, doctors, clinics, medications, and treatments. Nothing else mattered to them then because I was on disability. I guess that made me seem to weak to be a member of the board or maybe too weak to have clusters at all, IDK.Apparently disability was a BIG NO-NO back then. I'm not sure how the board collectively stands on the disability issue now. There's still at least 1 member here that I've only seen chime in on a few posts and it has been nothing but negativity out him so far too (but not towards me), but I haven't said anything to him. If the moderators on this board do not see him do it, or choose to turn a blind eye, there's nothing I can do. Personally I think he's going to chase away some people that really do need help and possibly would've found that help right here ... if they had a chance to stay.
And yes, I was there when "Chuck's Attack" was filmed in Vanderbuilt-Tennessee by Justin D. Ott. I'm also in that "Clusterheads" documentary Justin did. I was interviewed across from the hotel in that park. It was about a 10 minute interview all together. (Not sure what he edited). That was the first time I had ever met another clusterhead and I believe there were approximately 80 clusterheads there. It was an experience to actually KNOW for the first time that I'm NOT suffering alone and that there really were others with this horrific beast that did understand for a change ! People I believed really knew how I felt at times ! It was an eye-opening experience to say the least.

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Re: Alienation and Deprecation
Reply #27 - Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:49am
 
Lol Joe.  If I talk to him I will.  Why can't you? 
I sincerely appreciate all of you.  But it was getting tiring reading all that stuff...don't you agree?
It has not really anything to do with Zac.  Seemed like a big old pissing contest. 
No offense intended.
Cheers Joe.  Pfw's to you.
p.s.  I thought by reading it, that he was banned or quit.  I just looked and can't find him on here.  So now I'm confused.
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Reply #28 - Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:52am
 
I4B,
Many people shared your views about him, but I liked Jonny. 

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Reply #29 - Aug 1st, 2013 at 8:31am
 
You know, I can't speak for the "bad ol' days," I've only been here since 2010. I can speak for my own experience and the reason I've given so many volunteer hours to this site: I believe it literally saved my life. I am, and was, a chronic with intractable CHs for over 30 years. Here I found advice on how to manage abortives and preventatives. I have a life in between pain, something I did not have before.

Yes, I've seen some who come and go. Even those who feel they've been mistreated. But Joe is right. Those who complain the loudest are often the ones who have offended the most. Take Zac. There was no reason for the vitriolic post except to emotionally vomit all over every one. Sure it made him feel somewhat better, vomiting usually does. But it invites all sorts of interesting responses which was really his intent.

I4B, I'm not sure why you want to bring up a sordid past with the site. You came back and in doing so, you indicate a measure of satisfaction with the board. I have enjoyed your posts, until this round. Let it go. Continue with the support and viewpoints I have come to know from you.

I would give much for those here. I have said in the past I feel closer to most of you than I feel to those who wonder if I have finally gotten over those headache things. So that's my input. God bless all of you. lance
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Reply #30 - Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:00am
 
I appreciate and support Vickie for her comments in posts 23 & 27.

It doesn't foster the purposes of this site to walk around in the "cow pies".
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Reply #31 - Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:42pm
 
Bob Johnson wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:00am:
I appreciate and support Vickie for her comments in posts 23 & 27.

It doesn't foster the purposes of this site to walk around in the "cow pies".



The shits been stepped in.  This is the gettin it off yer boots without gettin it onya stage.

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Reply #32 - Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:49pm
 
"Take your life in our own hands, and what happens?
A terrible thing: no one to blame."

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Reply #33 - Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:58pm
 
Bob Johnson wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:00am:
I appreciate and support Vickie for her comments in posts 23 & 27.

It doesn't foster the purposes of this site to walk around in the "cow pies".



I know Bob...I apologize for my part, I do know better...this lad just got my goat! I'll go back to doing what this board was meant for and ignore those that doth annoy me.  I promise I'm done. Wink

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Reply #34 - Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:36pm
 
I think its great to know what works for you when nothing else did. Someone is giong to need that information, your probably not the only person that has or will go that route to get the relief they need. Its a valid medication for a horriffic condition ! and I thank you for the information.
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Reply #35 - Aug 1st, 2013 at 4:47pm
 
It would seem to me Zac achieved what he came here for.
"Not help" but to open up old wounds. Smiley.

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Reply #36 - Aug 3rd, 2013 at 5:22am
 
I'm surprised this thread was not closed, a lot of the responses after the OP's really don't want me to stick around as someone new... I've always appreciated the privacy I had with my medical history, never thought I'd share some of it on the internet and I'm sure I'll never share all of it. I don't know what this young man has been through... I don't see why people have to attack him but for there own enjoyment. Its disgusting on a website that suppose to help. I'm not sure the dark days are behind here, you're just convinced your in the light. I don't see many people taking the high road... everybody here has been shit on in life in some way with CH, why shit on each other.

All CHers have bad days, but when you have a good day, it might be best to make amends.
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Reply #37 - Aug 5th, 2013 at 7:07pm
 
HeadVise,

I would respectfully suggest that you spend some time reading some of the thousands of posts on this site, before insulting a lot of people. Once you have a better feel for this place, you just may see the massive benefit that it has provided since before I became a member in the late 90's. You have idea of how much goes on behind the scenes.

The people who have chosen to stick around have been the recipients of the vast and leading edge knowledge that has been spawned here.

It's a bit like life. Some good, some not so good. If a person demands glossy, unrealistic, pats on the head, they will feel insulted now and then - but then they will miss the benefits. 

If you feel highly insulted by my comments, and want to run away screaming - I can't help it. I am simply being honest, like most people here. 

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Reply #38 - Aug 6th, 2013 at 4:01pm
 
My mother would, too often, make some snotty, cutting, our just plain stupid comment to someone. If she was called on the crack, the stock replly was, "I was just being honest!"

The response was her "perfect" protection against  being aware of the quality, appropriateness, or harm of her comment.

She could never grasp that her self-deception was a greater sin than the other person's "bad" behavior.
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Reply #39 - Aug 7th, 2013 at 6:55am
 
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I must point out specifically what a problem Potter was when I was on this site regularly. He almost single-handedly drove me away from this site

Now that's funny!!!!
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Reply #40 - Aug 7th, 2013 at 3:40pm
 
The OP is pretty much dead dick right on.  Remain in denial, but people don't participate, and don't revisit because of the 6th grade "click" mentality that the board often portrays.   Now watch.......10 of you will Cut in Paste me n tell me how silly I am .....



come on.....   you know you want to ....
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Reply #41 - Aug 7th, 2013 at 3:58pm
 
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Now watch.......10 of you will Cut in Paste me n tell me how silly I am ....

You are so silly.

That's 1.
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Reply #42 - Aug 7th, 2013 at 5:39pm
 
Now watch.......10 of you will Cut in Paste me n tell me how silly I am .....

Me no comprendy. Smiley
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Reply #43 - Aug 7th, 2013 at 8:14pm
 
JHK07,

If I read you right, you were commenting about negativity, attacks and argumentative posts. Then you slapped people and challenged them to call you silly. 

Please help me understand how you see your post as helpful, above the fray and constructive. Sure, improvements can always be made, but I am left wondering about your motives.

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Reply #44 - Sep 15th, 2013 at 4:15pm
 
This is so sad that after visiting this site for over 7 years and suffering CH since 03 I will not be returning. You all blow me away. This guy Zacsz is in as much pain as the rest of us, says he has tried everything and you condemn him for using opiates/narcotics!  Big damn deal! If it works for him that is his business and his road to hoe. Plenty of people have heart attacks and strokes from overusing triptans and give me a freaking break regarding the damn mushrooms, that just isn't for everyone. No wonder he feels angry, withdrawn and hurt.  This is in no way a support site!  Undecided
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Reply #45 - Sep 15th, 2013 at 5:50pm
 
ma56 wrote on Sep 15th, 2013 at 4:15pm:
This is so sad that after visiting this site for over 7 years and suffering CH since 03 I will not be returning. You all blow me away. This guy Zacsz is in as much pain as the rest of us, says he has tried everything and you condemn him for using opiates/narcotics!  Big damn deal! If it works for him that is his business and his road to hoe. Plenty of people have heart attacks and strokes from overusing triptans and give me a freaking break regarding the damn mushrooms, that just isn't for everyone. No wonder he feels angry, withdrawn and hurt.  This is in no way a support site!  Undecided


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Reply #46 - Sep 19th, 2013 at 1:12am
 
Hi All,
I thought this thread was dead and buried.

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Reply #47 - Sep 22nd, 2013 at 4:17am
 
From the OP's post, I can imagine the back and forth that went on, putting him down for his and his doc's choice of treatment. And this thread seems to be more of a list of excuses to keep doing that; to him and others.

I4B - Hey UnSolved. So glad to see you! I missed you after you left (was driven off) the board. I've thought of you a lot, and hoped you were doing well. I hoped you would come back. I've been gone for awhile myself. Unfortunately, the person who drove you off continued to constantly harass and bully others until DJ finally banned him for life. Funny how the board changed for the better when that happened.

Joe: Quote:
Unlike you and many others, I never left the board. When things went sideways, I worked hard to help right the ship. Always following the philosophy, "Take the good the board has to offer, and ignore the rest." This board is far too valuable to stomp away in a huff because of some real or imagined slight.


As you said Joe, you were here when DJ changed the board, appointed you a mod, and created actual rules. However, when I4B was driven off the board, I'm not sure if you saw what led up to the final straw. Jonny was forced by DJ to apologize to UnSolved, after several incredibly cruel posts to him, which Jonny did, then Jonny started up again immediately. I4B didn't leave in a huff, he left because he couldn't get the support he needed here, without being cruelly harassed and bullied. There's a difference. And he desperately needed the support.

I don't know zac, but it appears a few people have allowed their buttons to be pushed by him, and they have reacted. And Joe's quote: "Take the good the board has to offer, and ignore the rest." seems like good advice.

It's your choice to react or not. Quoting Goadsby is for what purpose? Newbies posting their worried thoughts about being able to get support from this site.  No one is better than anyone else here. Just different.

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Reply #48 - Sep 22nd, 2013 at 8:33am
 
I keep hoping this thread will die. I've thought about hiding it and may yet. This board accomplishes so much good every day. So many hundreds of people are given a second chance at life because of this board. But, like the media, we tend to obsess on the occasional problem, and ignore the hundreds of successes.

My suggestion:

Do NOT respond to this post for any reason.

If you are tempted to respond to this post, instead, find another post where someone needs help...and help them.

That's the true purpose of this board.

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