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Lani
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How did it start for you?
Sep 29th, 2013 at 4:29pm
 
I've had a couple of doctors diagnose me, and others that disagree. I've checked my symptoms etc.

But want I want to know is how it starts in someone...Do you just get the full on clusters straight away or does it build upwards. I've noticed my attacks getting more and more painful as I get them. I'm starting to wonder if this is just starting for me or if this is it as it is now.

Would really appreciate your feedback on hows yours started. Many thanks.

Lani
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Reply #1 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 6:18pm
 
I thought it was a sinus headache (but surely nothing like I'd had before). My family Dr sent me to an ENT who did a cat scan, found I had a deviated septum but also said he thought I had cluster headaches and told me to see a Neuro. I think I was extremely lucky my ENT picked up on it! The Neuro confirmed it and started me on verapamil which broke the cycle in 2 weeks. I don't think they were that bad that 1st cycle but the next time they hit....I thought I would die! Then I found this site and found I was not alone. Tears of joy! This was in 2006 and I am now 65. So I'm an oddball all the way...female and they started late.
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Reply #2 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 7:00pm
 
Hi Lani   Smiley
Mine started like a bolt from the blue. I had a cold at the time and had an early night and I went to sleep with the aid of a sleeping pill ( I'm an insomniac at the best of times). I awoke at about 2.30am and my first thought was "OMG, whats wrong with my teeth - I had unbearable toothache. I slapped a hand to my face and then realised my nose and upper lip were slightly numb. I went downstairs and looked in the mirror to see that my eye was red and my eyelid had drooped. I thought I had had a stroke. Then the REAL pain started in my temple and behind my eye.

Over the next few weeks the Ch took it's normal course of 6-8 hits a day and a couple of them always at night. I went to the doctors almost daily as I was so desperate, but as they were emergency appointments I never managed to see the same doctor twice. They all agreed it wasn't a stroke, but one said it was shingles, another said sinus infection, and another said migraine. Yet another shrugged and said he didn't know but he doubted it was anything too serious.They all sent me home with useless prescriptions for paracetomol, ibuprofen, codeine etc. Eventually a lady doctor sent me to see a specialist, who gave me 2 nerve block procedures and a scan. The nerve blocks didn't work so he sent me to see another pain specialist, and he sent me on to see a neurologist..

All this took time of course and after 6 years I finally got a diagnosis and some meds which would work.

I have managed to see that same lady doctor several times since although it's not easy here in the UK to choose who you see ( I sometimes think it would be easier to get an audience with the queen), but I insisted. She admits that I know more about cluster headaches now than she does, and she's willing to work with me and listen to my suggestions for treatment. I find it incredible that this condition is quoted as "the most painful condition known to medical science" and yet most doctors are completely ignorant of it.

To get back to your question my episodes during those years have all been more or less the same, right from day one. Every one seems to suffer differently though.

You MUST get a proper diagnosis from a neurologist who specialises in headaches before anything else, then they will know what meds to give you. And you will find all you need to know here on these boards if you keep reading.

Rumeke
I'm the same as you. I'm female, 63now and was 57 when this started.
Wishing you both well.
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Reply #3 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 7:54pm
 
Hi Lani,

Welcome, i have read many stories like yours and Maz on
this site and i find it amazing that in this day and age some
doctor's are still clueless when it comes to diagnosing CH.
Mine started back in 1969. I went to see my GP who put
me in hospital for tests, and in three days i was diagnosed
as suffering from CH's.No waiting to see a neuro or given
the runaround. So what's with these so called doctor's
today.

Hoppy.
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Reply #4 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 10:16pm
 
1978, we'd led the South Sydney ANZAC Day parade so the local servicemen's club treated us to a beaut lunch and copious quantities of a certain brand of beer. Minutes later I was in the carpark trying to march off what I thought was the worst headache in existence.

A week or so later, same brand of beer and the same thing happened only this time in spades!

Over the next 10 years I was prescribed anything and everything (to no effect) until a neuro said CH. For 10 years after that I was prescribed anything and everything, to no effect, until I said enough, no more.

Since those first two hits I've only once  found CH to be related to beer (longest 11 days imaginable) but I now live a full and happy life and refuse to let some feral beast take anything away from me.

I live in beautiful place so denial comes easily.
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Reply #5 - Sep 30th, 2013 at 3:07am
 
I had a concussion. Although that gave me a background headache, a few days later I started getting what were pretty intense headaches. Over the next few weeks they got stronger and stronger, evolving towards classic CH symptomes. It took a few months of doctors scratching their heads trying to work out what the problem was before I saw another neuro who figured everything out very quickly.

Looking back, those initial "really painful" headaches were actually pretty mild in CH terms, but at the time I was used to perhaps a headache every 5 years.
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Reply #6 - Sep 30th, 2013 at 8:43am
 
Hi Lani, and welcome. As you can see, we all started somewhat differently, but the one thing we do have in common is this: when CHs start they are not generally in the same pattern or intensity as they will be in future episodes. They morph. And as they morph, they tend to begin to fall into "clusters" or patterns: e.g. every day at 7AM, 11AM, 1PM, etc. Now is the time to arm yourself with every weapon available. And use them to try and keep the beast from getting a foothold. God bless lance
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Reply #7 - Sep 30th, 2013 at 9:01pm
 
At first I thought it was a sinus infection and then after several doses of antibiotics and one killer prescription of antibiotics I thought I was good to go.  Thought wrong obviously.  I finally started to realize that they were coming at certain times of the day or night, the pain so intense I thought I was dying, or at least wished I would.  I went on like this for almost 4 years before I broke down at one of my son's Neuro visits of all the times lol. His doc was kind and understanding scheduled me for an MRI and Bob's your uncle...well maybe not but you get my point.  Before I broke down at the doctors office I was doing some research online when I happened across this wonderful site with information and understanding and some symptom checking  , later I realized I found my other family   Cool
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Reply #8 - Sep 30th, 2013 at 11:10pm
 
Get ready for a nice little story.  Cool

Hard to say for sure, but I can remember getting very short, intense cluster like headaches from the time I was 13, which usually lasted perhaps 15~30 seconds. These were very rare and infrequent, and I typically forgot all about them after they passed. The headaches started after I got a concussion in a skiing accident, but I'm not sure whether they are related.

Fast forward to high school, freshman year. I'm 15, and I get a nasty headache in the middle of a history test. I manage to keep it together long enough to finish the essay, then get excused to the nurse's office. My dad comes to pick me up, but by the time he arrives I'm better, though I still go home anyway. Dad thought it had to do with low blood sugar- the attack happened just before lunch break.

The attacks continued infrequently for the next 4 years, sometimes lasting 5 minutes, others for half an hour. The pain was always bad, but never excruciating. I would lie down if at home, or put my head in my hands and just breath deep if during class. Never got one while playing sports. I thought they were sinus related and never paid much mind to them as they were still rather infrequent.

After graduating I worked for a construction contractor for a summer before college, and I got the first of what I consider to be the real deal cluster attacks. I woke up at 3:00 AM one morning, and recognized the pain immedietley. Except it never got better and continued to worsen, to the point where I was covered in sweat and shaking in my bed for almost an hour after if finally subsided. I missed a morning of work, and felt hungover for most of the day. A few nights later it happened again, and I missed work again. After the third attack in a week at about the same time I started thinking about visiting a doctor, but I was 19 and living alone for the first time in my life, and didn't really understand how to deal with this stuff.

Luckily, the attacks died down after a week and didn't resurface until the Fall, where I had a similar week long experience. It ended, and I soon forgot about it.

In the Spring, however, I got my first real cycle, and it nearly had me contemplating quitting school for the semester. I was working part time and a physically demanding job while doing full time classes, and I began to get headaches daily at around 3~4 PM. This lasted for almost 3 weeks before I finally broke down and visited the university medical center. They thought it might be sinus related, and gave me some heavy duty asprin. After that didn't work, one of the doctors finally started thinking cluster headaches and sent me to a specialist and put me on a prednisone taper on the spot. The headaches went away almost by magic until the taper ended, after which they returned. The neuro put me on another longer taper that finally killed the cycle. I was 19 and have dealt with 5 cycles over the past 12 years.

Some cycles have been rough like the first one, some have responded quickly to a pred taper. I've dealt with them in multiple countries, usually after several frustrating weeks of trial and error with the health care system. I usually get a 2~3 year reprieve after cycles, so hopefully I'll get another 2~3 more before the beast comes calling.

I guess I was lucky in the sense that I kind of warmed up to my real cycles, and that so far there has been quite a bit of spacing between cycles. Hopefully this continues.
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Reply #9 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 2:33am
 
Hello, Lani-
I am a 23+ year cluster sufferer/survivor. My clusters began in the summer of 1990 at the age of 27 (male). I smoked and enjoyed an overindulgence of beer...it didn't take me long to realize that beer would trigger a headache when amidst a cluster, but I could actually get a headache over-with and then go to bed...worked like charm!!!  Roll Eyes Typical clusters would be 3-4 months, with 3 headaches/day, sometimes I'd get a treat and have 4 Wink, 6-7 days/week, at regular intervals (mid-day/late morning/early afternoon, evening/night, mid-night/early morning), headache durations of 3-4 hours, and generally 4-6 months of remission between clusters. I could tell what time it was, generally +/- 5 minutes with the onset of a headache...hmm, it's 10:00 am...yep, right on que!!! I have had 3 clusters in one year with shorter remissions than relapses. Somewhere around 2007, my headache duration began to shorten, a lot, (to as little as 40 min) and the cluster durations decreased from several months to several weeks, then to just a week or two. Remission would last for anywhere from 12 months to nearly 24 months. I noticed these trends immediately, and realized that I may soon be walking out the door, into brighter, more cheerful and enjoyable days, and more restful nights...and have a LIFE again!!!

I had no idea throughout most of this time what these headaches were caused from, and until 2008 when I was talking to my BIL, who has them as well, I was in the dark. When I discovered what they were, I felt pretty helpless in this whole ordeal because Meds and procedures to reduce the pain had such low success rates that I didn't even consider them as an option, but then, I was already 18 years into this ordeal, so I figured why worry about medical intervention. I only once visited a family practitioner in 1994, and we both suspected sinus infection (which I've read is a common mistake) due to the obvious reasons of runny/stuffy nose during a headache...of course, the antibiotics I was prescribed did nothing, and the doctor did not order any blood work for white blood cell count, etc, before making a diagnosis. I'm currently in a relapse, and have had 4 nightly headaches out of 6 nights,  around an hour or less. Very little for day-time headaches, except for today @ noon...was more like an elevated back-ground headache more than a true cluster, then several days ago I had one mid-day for 45 minutes, then another that afternoon very briefly for less than 5 minutes.

I have worked while having headaches for this entire time since the onset, and had to fight the total exhaustion and desire to sleep until I was home from work. I have been awakened by them at 2:00 am and just got up and went to work because I knew I wouldn't get back to sleep (I set my own work hours for the most part). I have gone to sleep at night in the middle of a cluster headache...whether or not that sleep did much good for me is yet to be determined, because I would wake up exhausted, wondering why I was even awake. Through it all, I have found there are ways I can reduce the pain, either by massage, direct pressure, or, through mind control...not so much meditation as it is tricking the mind into thinking it is not pain I'm feeling. I still don't know how I ever did that, because my relapses have been too short and far between now to make it work anymore. If I figure it out, I'll surely be back and write about it. And yes, I went through the head-banging scene, among other things, when I simply could not get control of the pain, and didn't know how I could take it any longer. In the earlier years, I could take Naproxen Sodium and get fast results, with a lot of relief, as long as I took them at the onset of a headache, and only on an empty stomach, with water...that first twinge...then after a few years, nothing...same thing with Ibuprofen/acetaminophen, only they were far less effective. Then came migraine meds like Excedrin or Migraine-X...they helped some, too, but I use little if anything for the past 8 years or so...just doesn't help much at all anymore. I can't carry oxygen equipment with me at work, which I learned recently can knock a cluster into submission for many...to have O2 at home now would be nice, sure, but I wouldn't use much now days...and so it goes.

I may be one who will have long-lived lingering effects. After what I've already been through compared to what I'm dealing with now?? Piece of cake...I'll take it with stride and go on with my life. For now, I also am extremely grateful for the relief of shorter clusters, shorter headaches and far less pronounced back-ground headaches, which, by the way, are unnoticeable to me in recent years, at least 90% of the time during a cluster relapse.

I wrote my story to offer a sliver of hope to anyone in need. My situation may be similar for others, in respect to not living with full-blown clusters for the rest of your life. If you've put some time in with it already, you may be nearing the end of the really bad stuff, and coming closer to a better quality of life...better days at work..more enjoyable time with your family...instead of going into hiding or just becoming a vegetable with every headache that cropped up. My life was a shambles for the better part of 17 or 18 years, but that is now changing. The last statistics I read (5 or 6 yrs ago) stated that once you have clusters, you will have them for 20+ years...I fell a little short of that mark with the all-out skull-exploding, eye-ball piercing, brain-grinding headaches, and am now hopefully on the downhill side of the mountain, heading to a better quality of life. Some of you may be close to reaching this stage yourself...never know to it happens. Hold your chin high and DO NOT GIVE UP. There is hope, and I'm living proof of that. My best wishes to all!!!

***Not to high-jack this thread, but I was in the middle of a short headache when I decide to just copy paste/modify this from what I submitted in my guest-book posting a few days ago (not reviewed/posted yet at this time)...carry on.
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Reply #10 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 3:34am
 
23yrsurvivor-

Not sure how new you are to this site, but there is quite a bit of information that you may find helpful considering how long you have managed to endure. O2 is great, but there are plenty of other options out there. Read the vitamin D3 thread- it could change things for you. Cool
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