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Let me clarify about getting rid of women
Oct 5^th, 2013 at 2:50am

I don't want anyone to think I'm facetious about suggesting the life of a monk may indeed cure cluster headaches. So let me clarify. I have been girl crazy since I was a young boy. In relationships, I yielded entirely unto their demands and took upon the hero's responsibility to gratify them. When they start in with the nagging -- and they always do -- it hurt me more than emotionally. It hurt me spiritually. I would suffer greatly because I was not satisfying them enough whether financially or whatever they had cooked up to manipulate my emotions. And I suffered clusters because of it. No longer. I am a free man. I have not been with a woman for five years, and I have not suffered a cluster headache all these many years.

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Hoppy CH.com Alumnus Offline LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE Posts: 1890 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women Reply #1 - Oct 5^th, 2013 at 4:29am Hi John, Got my doubts they were clusters in the first place. . But i wouldn't be counting my chickens just yet, as the is known to go into remission for years, and then out of no where rears his ugly head. Hoppy.
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Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women
Reply #2 - Oct 5^th, 2013 at 5:00am

You have clusters because your girlfriend nags ? You clearly know little about the condition, and to be honest I feel your post is offensive to women.

I suffered far worse than nagging with a previous husband and never had clusters. My CH started long after I became happy and contented with the lovely man I have now. I wouldn't be without him. Most sufferers, of either gender, would be completely lost without their supporter - usually the spouse.

Perhaps you should look for a different diagnosis as I doubt very much you have cluster headaches.

As an aside, If they ALL nag, have you asked yourself why. But I agree you should probably stay away from women, though not for the reason you state.
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AussieBrian CH.com Hall of Famer Offline CH - It's all in your head! Posts: 3851 Cairns, Qld, Australia Gender:	Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women Reply #3 - Oct 5^th, 2013 at 7:30am Nagging as a trigger? Fair dinkum, I'll get some mileage out of this one!
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Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women
Reply #4 - Oct 5^th, 2013 at 12:51pm

Wow, folks doubt my cluster as legit as a way to say they're more cluster than me. What fucking egotistical retards people are. I am not trying to degrade women, I am trying to suggest there is an emotional component to clusters. It is not women's fault they are who they are, it is my fault for reacting to them the way I do. I am pointing out there is an emotional component to clusters, and that if you do not look at stress in your life as an aggravating factor, then you deserve the shit you are in. And to the stoopid bitch that suggested I don't really suffer clusters, who in the hell would come to a cluster board who doesn't suffer them? USE YOUR BRAIN. Nagging doesn't trigger them, don't be stupid. It is the emotional state of being beholden to someone.

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Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women
Reply #5 - Oct 5^th, 2013 at 1:00pm

John Freedom wrote on Oct 5^th, 2013 at 12:51pm:

Wow, folks doubt my cluster as legit as a way to say they're more cluster than me. What fucking egotistical retards people are. I am not trying to degrade women, I am trying to suggest there is an emotional component to clusters. It is not women's fault they are who they are, it is my fault for reacting to them the way I do. I am pointing out there is an emotional component to clusters, and that if you do not look at stress in your life as an aggravating factor, then you deserve the shit you are in. And to the stoopid bitch that suggested I don't really suffer clusters, who in the hell would come to a cluster board who doesn't suffer them? USE YOUR BRAIN. Nagging doesn't trigger them, don't be stupid. It is the emotional state of being beholden to someone.

It's yer hypothalamus not yer hippopotamus.

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Jackie CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Go For It!!! Posts: 5903 Goshen, IN Gender:	Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women Reply #6 - Oct 5^th, 2013 at 1:19pm John, You are new here...less than 10 posts. There are rules of conduct for being a member of this site and for posting on this board. Personal attacks and name calling is not allowed. Thank you.....
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John Freedom CH.com Newbie Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 5	Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women Reply #7 - Oct 5^th, 2013 at 1:28pm Fair enough, Jackie. I tend not to be of that nature, and only react when others start in on me. I really find it offensive when people suggest I don't suffer clusters as a way of silencing me. All I am trying to suggest is there is an emotional component to clusters. For SOME people.
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JustNotRight CH.com Sponsor Offline CH version 15.0.8 member since 2005 aka GingerS224 Posts: 1300 Wilkes-Barre, Pa (USA) Gender:	Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women Reply #8 - Oct 5^th, 2013 at 1:29pm This has all got to be some kind of lame joke right? LMAO As a female with cluster headaches, when I am in the THROWS of PAIN during an attack as much as I'd like to at times I can't really get rid of myself.
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Hoppy CH.com Alumnus Offline LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE Posts: 1890 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women Reply #9 - Oct 5^th, 2013 at 9:31pm Potter wrote, It's yer hypothalamus not yer hippopotamus. I agree. Emotion and stress play no part in my CH's. Hoppy.
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Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women
Reply #10 - Oct 5^th, 2013 at 10:47pm

Hoppy wrote on Oct 5^th, 2013 at 9:31pm:

Emotion and stress play no part in CH's.

I wish it was that simple, however over the years many people have commented here as to a pattern in their CH linked to stress. For some it seems that stress increasing is a trigger and for others the opposite.

I for one have a very clear pattern to my CHs with significantly more CHs at the start of the weekend (when the stress should be reducing) and I've found that stress seems to be associated with fewer CHs (and migraines) for me.

The brain is highly complex and working out the myriad of interactions that take place on a biochemical basis is non-trivial.

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Hoppy CH.com Alumnus Offline LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE Posts: 1890 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women Reply #11 - Oct 5^th, 2013 at 11:49pm Mike wrote, I for one have a very clear pattern to my CHs with significantly more CHs at the start of the weekend. Maybe to many Friday after work Beer's. Just joking.
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Mike NZ CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Oxygen rocks! D3 too! Posts: 3785 Auckland, New Zealand Gender:	Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women Reply #12 - Oct 6^th, 2013 at 1:08am Hoppy wrote on Oct 5^th, 2013 at 11:49pm: Mike wrote, I for one have a very clear pattern to my CHs with significantly more CHs at the start of the weekend. Maybe to many Friday after work Beer's. Just joking. Actually I wish it was that simple, but I'm one of the few who isn't triggered by alcohol.
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Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women
Reply #13 - Oct 6^th, 2013 at 2:08am

wow,
I recon its got nothing to do with the so called "nagging" of your previous partners and maybe something to do with anger issues !!!!
your post did come across as maz said as totally sexist. !!! and maybe the think before we write button is in order.
stress for me can bring on cluster symptoms, as can the heat, achohol etc, from what I read there's so many different triggers that effect people differently.
wish it was all the same for everybody, it might be easier to manage for everyone then ! but alas !

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Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women
Reply #14 - Oct 6^th, 2013 at 3:10am

This post is one (if not the most)

ridicules

post I have ever seen
over the years on CH. Com

Posts like this distant researchers and doctors from the boards.
Good ideas, and important information that researchers and doctors
Look for on support groups boards get lost in this type of clutter.

Most important
Marta (my wife) - [disrespectfuly - women, in your words] is the sturdy pillar that helped
And helps, supports, and motivates me go through bad times
And enjoy together the good times!
I do not know where would I be, without the love, help, understanding
And support over the years.

I love my supporters, I am grateful for them!
For being on my side!

Michael

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Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women
Reply #15 - Oct 6^th, 2013 at 9:53pm

I agree.my wife is the one who first suggested CH.when I switched to my new pcp she brought a stack of papers she printed off for him to look at.he totally agreed,and began treating me for it.my wife sat up countless nights researching while I locked myself in the bathroom and attempted to bash my head in.my wife is fantastic !

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Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women
Reply #16 - Oct 6^th, 2013 at 11:54pm

My last cycle was Spring 2012 and i was having a real
battle with the Smiley

. My wife searched the
web and found ice can help in CH's, so she wrapped
some in a handkerchief an applied it to my head and
the back of my neck, CH was gone in 15min. Iv'e since
been on the vitamin D3 Regime and no CH's. I often wonder
what i would do without her by my side.

Hoppy.

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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women Reply #17 - Oct 6^th, 2013 at 11:56pm Seems someone has mommy issues.
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Mike NZ CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Oxygen rocks! D3 too! Posts: 3785 Auckland, New Zealand Gender:	Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women Reply #18 - Oct 7^th, 2013 at 2:22am Given a choice between keeping my wonderful supporter and having CH or losing both, I'd keep both, although mid-CH I wouldn't be human to wonder what if (just as other thoughts go through our heads in the middle of the torture that is inflicted on us).
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Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women
Reply #19 - Oct 7^th, 2013 at 2:17pm

If I were to have divorced my wife because of CH years ago I would have been dead years ago. She is the basic thing that has kept me alive.

With all respect, John, I suggest you look at yourself and grow a spine. If you have this issue with women it is because of one of two things. Either you are a doormat or you pick the wrong kind of women. Personally, from what little I've read of you, I think it is probably both.

I do know an apology is definitely in order to some very wonderful women on this board, women who have stood by their men, who have spent inordinate hours searching for answers, who have wept gallons of tears over their suffering, who have gone without necessities because they would rather put the money into something to help their husband, and I could go on and on about what they do for us. That does not even touch the lovely ladies I know who suffer CH themselves. Nor does it address the wonderful women sufferers I know who have also married other sufferers and support them.

Until such apology comes I'm afraid I have no use for your posts, and they will be ignored. You have nothing to offer.

Jerry

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Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women
Reply #20 - Oct 7^th, 2013 at 2:22pm

Callico wrote on Oct 7^th, 2013 at 2:17pm:

If I were to have divorced my wife because of CH years ago I would have been dead years ago. She is the basic thing that has kept me alive.

With all respect, John, I suggest you look at yourself and grow a spine. If you have this issue with women it is because of one of two things. Either you are a doormat or you pick the wrong kind of women. Personally, from what little I've read of you, I think it is probably both.

I do know an apology is definitely in order to some very wonderful women on this board, women who have stood by their men, who have spent inordinate hours searching for answers, who have wept gallons of tears over their suffering, who have gone without necessities because they would rather put the money into something to help their husband, and I could go on and on about what they do for us. That does not even touch the lovely ladies I know who suffer CH themselves. Nor does it address the wonderful women sufferers I know who have also married other sufferers and support them.

Until such apology comes I'm afraid I have no use for your posts, and they will be ignored. You have nothing to offer.

Jerry

I still maintain it's his hypothalamus and not his hippopotamus.

Potter

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Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women
Reply #21 - Oct 7^th, 2013 at 2:39pm

John, your reply #7: A little "experiment" I used to use when I was a therapist and teacher. I'd ask,

"Think of one very special object in you home, something which importance/meaning for you. Tell me, how does IT (the object) MAKE you like it?"

It's amazing how many folks would freeze up, unable to understand the question.

The answer is, of course: the object doesn't give you feelings/emotions. Emotions come from WITHIN us, we create them, they are OUR reaction to whatever it is we value in the object.

Our EMOTIONS are OUR reaction to the person/situation--neither people nor things can GIVE/IMPOSE feelings upon us.

Please: reflect on this idea for a time before you react or reply.

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JustNotRight CH.com Sponsor Offline CH version 15.0.8 member since 2005 aka GingerS224 Posts: 1300 Wilkes-Barre, Pa (USA) Gender:	Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women Reply #22 - Oct 7^th, 2013 at 6:58pm Brew wrote on Oct 6^th, 2013 at 11:56pm: Seems someone has mommy issues. All I gotta say is LOL Brew!!!
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wimsey1 CH.com Alumnus Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 2457 MA Gender:	Re: Let me clarify about getting rid of women Reply #23 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 9:14am JustNotRight wrote on Oct 7^th, 2013 at 6:58pm: Brew wrote on Oct 6^th, 2013 at 11:56pm: Seems someone has mommy issues. All I gotta say is LOL Brew!!! Yeah, and Potter's was pretty funny, too! blessings. lance
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