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Jan 9th, 2014 at 12:40am
 
Hi! I'm Marisa. I have just been recently diagnosed with cluster headaches. Even though I'm almost 18 and have been suffering since I was 14. I had an awful time with getting to the bottom of this and what was wrong with me. Neurologist I was going to basically first time I saw her said 'Oh, it's just migraines! here!" and gave a prescription. That didn't work. and another and another. And no matter how much I explained to her she'd just make me try more stuff. It got to the point where nothing she gave would even remotely touch the pain. I was going to the ER five times a damn week. (I still go to the ER when I can't take it.) Thank God for my mother who is so helpful and has been there for me and trying to get me all the help I can get. We had to tell my primary that she wasn't helping me at all. So, my primary wrote own all my symptoms and talked to an 'adult neurologist.' (since I'm not 18, any decent neurologist where I live won't even make an appointment for me until I'm 18.) So, now I've been set up with oxygen until I go an see a specialist, five hours away from here, who actually knows what to do. - thank god. But I'm also soo soo glad I found this site! It's hard to find people to understand what I'm going through because people are ignorant and think 'it's just a headache'. When they couldn't even begin to imagine the pain I'm in. I've missed a lot of school because of them.(And  holy, teachers are not understanding and super rude about it. even though my doctor has explained it to them 50 times) I get a lot of night attacks. I basically don't sleep at all when I have a cycle of them. I'm barely going to graduate. I've already missed almost three months this year. I get so stressed and depressed during cycles. It's hard. All I want to sleep and to feel like a normal 17 year old. And I'd do anything to make them stop. To not feel this pain anymore. It's the WORST pain I've had in my entire life,which you guys know that, it is awesome that i'm saying how I feel right now and someone who's reading this knows exactly what i'm talking about. (it's not awesome that we have this pain, but you know what i'm going through.) I mean, I had cancer and went through chemo therapy when I was 12 and I can honestly say that these are 1000 times worse than any of that. I've had such a long journey trying to figure out what's happening. And I'm not glad I have them, but I'm glad I know what it is. And I'm SO glad to have found this site and to learn more and to see things that help other sufferers.


Whoever made this site you're literally an angel.
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Reply #1 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 1:22am
 
welcome marisa,
                           sorry you had to join us !
im relatively new as well to the cluster family,  4 years
but there are some extremely experienced people here that have done the milage with, bad diagnosis etc and can advise and point you in the right direction.
im on the vit d3 regime, which, while not a cure, has helped me to manage this horrible affliction.
please read up on it and ask any question about it, im sure the man himself, batch will respond to you and step you thru it, I cant recommend the regime enough marisa.
its all natural and good for you and 80 % of people with clusters have experienced pain free results or reduced the symptoms.
im still taking a preventative as well as the vit regime, and that works for me at the moment, some have gone pain free and are only on the regime,  hope you could be one of them.
anyway, welcome, im sure you will find all on here, helpful and empathetic with "our little ailment"
kindest regards
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Reply #2 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 1:50am
 
I actually read up on it! I love the idea of something being natural, since i've tried god knows how many medications in the past four years! I would absolutely be willing to learn more about it and try it!
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Reply #3 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 7:59am
 
Marisa, I can't tell you how sad I am to hear young people like yourself suffering from this awful disease. But as a cancer survivor, you already have what it takes to beat back the beast and take control of your life. You just need a few more tools. Take a look at my thread on this site entitled "Abort Ladder." Your ladder will be different maybe, but having a solid and repeatable routine, with an arsenal of proven weapons, will help restore confidence that you can manage. As you know, trips to the ER can be expensive and frustrating. You need the O2 (high flow of 15+ lpm and a good nonrebreather mask) plus other interventions. It can be done. Would you mind sharing some of the Rxs you were given? It might help us know how best to direct you. God bless. lance
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Reply #4 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 10:38pm
 
ER trips are defiantly frustrating especially when ER doctors don't understand the disease. I don't have to worry about expenses for meds or doctors visits because i'm state health insurance until I'm 21. I do have o2 but i'm not sure what the flow is or what exactly type of mask i have? so i should figure that out. And to name a few of the meds i've tried topomax for a preventive which i was on for two years and i didn't think it helped me and neither did the doctors. but they never tried to give me another preventive? i've tried imitrex in pill form and nasal, pill form made me sick every time i tried to take it. and i didn't find that the nasal really helped me much besides making me super dizzy. i've tried tramadol for pain. and others that i have no clue how to spell. I'm still trying to figure all this out.
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Reply #5 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 3:45am
 
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You should be able to work out what flow rate you have and what type of mask from the description. If not, just take a photograph of your regulator (close up so we can see the settings) and mask. We'll be able to figure it out from there.

Ideally you need a flow rate that goes to at least 15 litres per minute, with more better as it results in faster aborts. For your mask you should have a non-rebreather mask.

Imitrex pills are not too good for CH as they take too long to take effect which means a whole lot of pain to be endured. The nasal spray works a lot better with the injections even better, but the price jumps for these which is all down to how good your insurance cover is.

For another preventive look at verapamil and lithium. Plus read up about vitamin D3 which is giving great results for many.

Taking painkillers, like tramadol, is normally not a good option as it doesn't touch the pain and even when used according to doctors advice it can too easily result in addiction plus rebound headaches (a bad combination).

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Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 4:47am
 
I just read through the oxygen info and I do have the correct mask however my regulator is set at 8? And I'm not sure if it goes any higher or not I'll have to see.

And when I go to see the headache specialist that's one of the things I have to get is a new preventive. Nobody wants to put me on anything because they want the specialist to figure out what's best for me, i guess. 

And tramadol didn't work for me so I stopped after maybe two times of trying it, no point in taking something that doesn't work. And rebound headaches i hate.

And my mom and I have read up on the D3 regimen and Batch has PM'd me about it. I'm going to start it this week and hopefully it helps me out!
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Reply #7 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 5:06am
 
Marisa R wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 4:47am:
I just read through the oxygen info and I do have the correct mask however my regulator is set at 8? And I'm not sure if it goes any higher or not I'll have to see. 


8lpm is a pretty low flow rate for aborting CHs. How long do you take to abort at that flow rate?

A higher rate is normally a lot quicker. With 15lpm I abort in about 12 minutes but at 25lpm it takes about 5, which in addition to saving me going through a lot of pain it also means that I use significantly less oxygen to do so too.
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Reply #8 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 5:09am
 
A good half hour at least. If I manage to start it when i feel it first coming on sometimes quicker. But once it's already started sometimes I do some then if it's not helping wait and try again and usually the second does the trick.


but the doctor i'm seeing basically knows nothing about treating CHs. that's probably its not high enough? i'm being sent to a headache specialist five hours away from where I live because i live in such a small area no one has dealt with them and no one really is sure what to do about them.
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Reply #9 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 9:12am
 
This is the only sufferer recommended doc for Maine:

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Lewiston:
Ann S. Hurd, PA
Pediatric Associates of Lewiston

Here's the link to U.S. docs familiar with treating CH and recommended by other sufferers:

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CH tends to be a lifetime ailment. The sooner you get an organized approach to attacking them the less you'll find yourself getting creamed by the beast. 8 LPM is a very low flow rate. You can go on Craigs List and find higher flow regulators, if you have the money a demand regulator is definitely the way to go. It's advantages are you can draw 02 as fast and hard as you can breathe, and when you're not drawing air no air flows so you'll find you can conserve the 02 a bit.

Good luck and let us know how the appointment with the specialist goes.

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Reply #10 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 9:48am
 
Topamax is often prescribed and for some, it works. Didn't work for me and apparently has not worked for you. There really is a broad range of options for preventatives but you need a specialist who knows the ins and outs of CHs to help guide you. I take verapamil and lithium, plus the D3 regimen and other stuff. O2 at high flow (for me, 25lpm) and energy drinks (Red Bull, Monster) are my go to's. I also use Imitrex injections which you might look into. Ask any questions and let us know how we can help. Blessings. lance
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Reply #11 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 2:34pm
 
Thanks so much. You guys are so helpful. (everything on here is helpful) I'll have to ask my neurologist about the doctor that's recommend to see if that's who i'm being sent to.(because my new neurologist knows more than my last but still really doesn't know how to treat) He already told me that I might have to be sent even further to like Boston because there's just no one who has really dealt with a lot of these in Maine. But I'm willing to see anyone who can help me.

And I figured out that my oxygen regulator can go up to 15 LPM. But I'm going to look into all of the other oxygen options too. And I want to talk to my doctor about the imitrex injections since imitrex in it's other forms weren't too helpful for me.

I also tired the red bull trick last night and then oxygen and it did seem to go away much faster. Which I thought was awesome.
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Reply #12 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 3:25pm
 
Yeah I chug a redbull with my 02 and in addition to speeding the abort for me it also seems to push the come back attack several more hours down the line! Wink

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