Did anyone out there use psychedelics before their first cluster? I have a personal theory that perhaps over use of psychedelics could cause the onset of CH. Its a theory that I hope someone can disprove, thanks!

Hi jjxf
My personal experience was that psychadelics were responsible for many a tension headache but never clusters. Anecdotal evidence on this site tends to them being a positive management tool with some people swearing by their effectiveness for controlling clusters. From what I gather the amounts used are a much lower amount than what you would use recreationally. I'm not sure if you would want to be tripping while in agony !
I did also ask the same question as you with regards to MDMA. The general consensus was no. Drugs are responsible for lots of things but generally not clusters. In saying that there are always exceptions.

I have never used any kind of drugs (except prescription medicines), but I still get clusters.

jjxf wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 8:00am:


There are certainly lots of people with CH who either haven't used psychedelics or haven't abused them. But that doesn't mean that psychedelics can cause CH or that they can't.

How is it possible for LSD to create a neurological disorder in a person then later in their life become a relief for the same disorder it caused in the first place? What other drug can cause that effect? Even if it was abused or over-used to begin with, do you have any examples to compare it with jj?

yes mike i see your point. it's like the old saying "too much of a good thing can be bad for you". in my personal experience tolerance to medical marijuana due to daily usage can completely reduce it's ability to relieve nausea or stop vomiting when i need it most. but, as jj may have been insinuating, can LSD over-use or abuse cause a physical change to a persons hypothalamus to give that person CH later in life? the period in my life when i tried LSD  was the longest pain-free time i have ever had.