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Just diagnosed with CH , many questions
May 30th, 2014 at 8:27pm
 
Stared 2 weeks ago with some mild attacks and had me a bit concerned , but the other night it went nuclear on me and had my wife take me to the hospital at 3 am , Doc put me on IV and added some meds , then I got a belly shot of something and then the O2 , plus a cat scan , it went away , thank god , I couldnt cope with it any longer

I now take verapamil , 1 pill 3 times a day , and have Imitrex nose spray

I'm doing OK but it seems it always is just about to happen , it never feels like it goes away, especially in my eye , my eye always seems to be red and half shut, will this ever go away ?

Also my scalp is itching for some reason , certainly something I can deal with, just wierd

It woke me up a 5 am today and I went for the nose spray , also  it was time for a pill , not sure what worked but it was gone in 20 minutes.

I need to make a doctor appointment and get more advice , but it seems pretty obvious I should get a O2 tank

Cleary this is a life changer , I just want to cope with this the best way possible , I would listen to any advice

Thank You
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Re: Just diagnosed with CH , many questions
Reply #1 - May 30th, 2014 at 9:49pm
 
Welcome to the board. Are you working with a headache specialist neuro yet? We have seen the best results from doing so. There are hundreds of headache types, some which mimic CH, and it’s important to eliminate those before arriving at a firm diagnosis. I’ve had CH for over 35years, they haven’t killed me yet! You need an organized approach to managing them so they don’t manage your life. I use a 3 pronged approach, many use a similar approach. But first and MOST IMPORTANTLY

Follow this link to the medications section of this board and read the post 

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It’s a vitamin/mineral/fish oil supplement, all over the counter stuff. It’s up to an 81% success rate of those who try it and respond to the survey so you’re just shooting yourself in the foot if you don’t give it a shot. I’m 3 years pain free on it after a 35 plus year track record with episodic CH. Best of all, it’s healthy for you even without CH!

As of January 20, 2013, the compiled raw data indicates an efficacy of 80%. 240 out of the 300 CH'ers who have started this regimen and stayed on it for a month or more have experienced a significant reduction in the frequency and severity of their CH... 78% of the 300 CH'ers experienced a pain free response and 60% of the 300 have remained essentially pain free. Episodic and chronic CH'ers respond to this regimen at roughly the same rate.

Preliminary survey results indicate most of these CH'ers were pain free before the end of the third week with some responding in a little as 12 to 24 hours. The average time to respond is five days


So all that follows will be worthless I hope……….but still…

1: A good prevent med. A med I take daily, while on cycle, to reduce the number and intensity of my attacks. I use lithium, it blocks 60-70% of my attack. Verapamil is the most common first line prevent, some have to go as high as 960 mg a day to get relief, topomax also has a loyal following. Some have to combine lithium and verapamil together to get relief.

2: A transitional med. Most prevents will take up to 2 weeks to become effective. I go on a prednisone taper, from 80 mg to zero over a two week period to give me a break while my prevent builds up. Prednisone will provide up to 100% relief for many CH’ers but is harsh on the system and should only be used for short periods of time.

3: An abortive therapy, the attack starts, now what? Oxygen should be your first line abortive. Breathing pure 02 will abort an attack for me in less then 10 minutes, that’s completely pain free. Read this link as it must be used correctly or it will not work

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This link will show you how to get set up with welding oxygen:

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Imitrex nasal spray and injectables are very effective abortives. I use the injectables, they’re expensive, and I rarely use them, mostly just when I get caught away from the oxygen. The pill form generally works too slow to be effective for CH’ers.


For now, get some energy drinks. Rock Star, Monster, any containing the combo of caffeine and taurine, chug it down as fast as you can when you feel an attack starting. Many can abort or at least really reduce an attack using these.

Finally, visit our sister board for “alternative” treatment methods outside of mainstream medicine. As you’ll see from all the success stories on this board, there is something to it.

clusterbusters.com


Read everything you can on this board, if you are a CH’er, knowledge is your best ally. We’ll help you all we can.

Joe
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Re: Just diagnosed with CH , many questions
Reply #2 - May 31st, 2014 at 3:29am
 
Imitrex nasal spray and injectables are very effective abortives. I use the injectables, they’re expensive, and I rarely use them, mostly just when I get caught away from the oxygen. The pill form generally works too slow to be effective for CH’ers.

I second that!! The injections are definately the best.I use 02 at home and save the injections for when I'm out.
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Re: Just diagnosed with CH , many questions
Reply #3 - May 31st, 2014 at 7:13am
 
It will help us to direct you to good sources of assistance if you will tell us where you live (city & state, if U.S. or country). At the Home page: Help button-->Edit & Profile --> Location. (This will add your location, just below your name, every time you post a message.
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Assuming the diagnosis of Cluster is on target, this means, 1. there is no cure and, 2. developing a good plan to control & suppres attacks is our main goal. This requires, if at all possible, that you work with a doc who has experience and skill in treating headache. (It's striking how little education/training doc have in this area of medicine.) So, if at all possible:
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LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

2.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

3. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register; On-line screen to find a physician.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register NEW certification program for "Headache Medicine" by the United Council for Neurologic Subspecialties, an independent, non-profit, professional medical organization.
        Since this is a new program, the initial listing is limited and so it should be checked each time you have an interest in locating a headache doctor.
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WHY A HEADACHE SPECIALIST IS RECOMMENDED


Headache. 2012 Jan;52(1):99-113.
Cluster headache in the United States of America: demographics, clinical characteristics, triggers, suicidality, and personal burden.
Rozen TD, Fishman RS.

THERE REMAINS A SIGNIFICANT DIAGNOSTIC DELAY FOR CLUSTER HEADACHE PATIENTS ON AVERAGE 5+ YEARS WITH ONLY 21% RECEIVING A CORRECT DIAGNOSIS AT TIME OF INITIAL PRESENTATION.
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Because there are numerous medical conditions which mimic Cluster, it's not wise to try and diagnose and treat yourself.

A good doc will give you an integrated treatment program involving several drugs which, used together, reduce most attacks and kill the ones which sneak thru.

As you are seeking a headache doc, educate yourself--it's the best defense fear/panic.
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Three sites which are worth your attention: medical literature, films, plus the expected information
about CH.

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  Full of articles, blogs, book: written by one of the best headache docs in the Chicago area.
  Worth exploring. The latest book is in e-book edition, $10; comprehensive and worth buying for
  a careful read.
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Re: Just diagnosed with CH , many questions
Reply #4 - Jun 3rd, 2014 at 7:52am
 
Joe has the patent on newcomer advice and he is always right on. It may seem complicated at first but you really do need to go through his post step by step. CHs are indeed a life changer but your life doesn't have to be totally dominated by the beast. Bob is also spot on when he urges you to find a headache specialist and not just a general neuro. Please do not hesitate to ask any questions. We are all here for the same reason. blessings. lance
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Re: Just diagnosed with CH , many questions
Reply #5 - Jun 12th, 2014 at 3:33am
 
Supercrash, great name btw. It looks like you are getting it under control pretty quickly. Hope the best for you.

I'm new here as well, though I'm not new to CH. I've had them for 3 years 6 cycles per year. It sucks. No sugar coating it.

Keep moving forward, and keep track of your attacks. The more you know about it the better.
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