Just an update and we are working on getting DALT into trials. It has continued to be 100% safe with no reported serious problems at all. I think the worst side effect I have heard in the group is nausea but that is also very rare or like you drank a couple of beers. For most you feel nothing at all, just stops the attacks and many hundreds in our group using it.

Here is a page on the website with more info ..Best of luck and again Study it well if your interested in this treatment study cluster busters use of tryptamines and 5 MeO DALT... I have a couple more pages in my directory on it too. So study and work with your doctors/neurologists...

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My turn to jump in here. 2006 was my last post. 
Surprised my login still works.
I have been successfully treating my CCH since 3/1/2015 and pain free. It works for most as well as John suggests.
It is not illegal in most states. Believe me, the DEA and local law enforcement have no interest in prosecuting someone for trying to find relief from the Beast. A number of people using 5-meo-dalt ARE in law enforcement and see the sense of using a small very controlled amount of synthetic tryptamine over a somewhat uncontrolled trip experience using shrooms, LSA, or LSD.
There are 3 very good source left since the chemical is now banned in China.
I will post the sources if the Moderators OK's it.
Dave

I want to share my experience with this drug so people know its a hopeful treatment but not a cure-all.  I have taken Dalt for a few weeks, 4 doses actually. 15mg every 5 days. I started taking it about a week or so after my cycle started. (I'm episodic btw) so far it has reduced the number of attacks and gives me almost 24 hours pain free before slapping me back in the eye almost exactly 24 hours later. Related to my other cycles over the 11 years ive had them, I dont know if its the Dalt thats done it or what but the hits have not progressed this cycle. What i mean is, my experience has been that at the beginning of a cycle, with no medications or abortives, i would get an attack and then pf for a day or so and then get another one. After a week or so of that i would get them everyday and within a few days i would be up to 3-4 attacks a day. 4 weeks later, after being hit 3-6 times a day, it would stop and i would be pain free until my next cycle. Who knows when that would be because ive went into cycle in the fall, spring, summer, winter....never know. This last year i got random attacks where i got a full cluster headache out of cycle. Just one attack one day and then pain free for a few months and then anither attack one day and then pain free a few more months... thats never happened before. My last dose of 5 meo dalt was at the onset of an attack. I took a 15mg capsule of it and i took two 200mg caffeine tablets (vivarin). Omg. That was the worst feeling of nausea I've ever got during an attack. I normally dont get nauseous. Now, i take the 2 vivarin every time i wake up because i dont drink coffee, and i have for years, so the caffeine couldnt be the culprit. So far, the dalt hasnt stopped my cycle and from previous experiences with the CH's over 11 years, once that 24 hours is up i get the worst attack ive ever felt. 24 hours after my first dose of dalt i had a 4 and a half hour kip 10+ attack. I literally thought i had screwed up and made something pop inside my head. The whole side of my head went numb, the pressure in my upper jaw, roof of my mouth and into my nose and eye was so unbelievable. Its reminds me of pinching off a water hose thinking that turned off the water. It all just built up and came out later and at full force for an extremely long time. Im still going to continue taking the dalt for the duration of the cycle. I'm 3 weeks in and i usually have 4 week cycles (give or take) when i dont use Sumatriptan, which i haven't taken this cycle. I got my dalt from a fellow CH'er and dont know where to get it either. I thinks its pretty funny that nobody will help anyone find a place to get it. Seems pretty dumb to me. And ive noticed quite a few smarta....rude comments on here from people who you can tell have some serious attitude. Whats with that? And i know if i wouldnt have been given the 5 meo dalt i would never have been able to try it because i actually did try finding a place to buy it, all dead ends. I have even tried up to this moment and i have yet to be able to find a way to get it. Im kinda dumbfounded to see fellow sufferers telling people "its the greatest thing since sliced bread! Go find it yourself!" Ok, start the bashing. Who knows, you might knock something back right.

Hi and welcome,
Four and a half hours kip10 seems a long time for a CH. I know of folk that are getting success using Dalt, but the thing is we are all different and what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. Have you looked into the vitamin D regime on here, it has lots of us CH free, myself included.

Cheers Hoppy

towboater wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 3:17pm:


Who pissed in your cheerios?

                   Potter

Took Towboater eight hundred days to make their first pissy post and prolly gonna wait eight hundred more to reply. 

            Potter

towboater wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 3:17pm:


Please don't let the negativity of a couple of curmudgeons on this site deter you from posting and participating. I, for one, was glad to hear about your experience with this treatment. It's the only way others can tell whether something is really effective or not.

If you're finding there's a long list of negative epithets you're being called, by a broad cross-section of people, you >might< want to start re-evaluating yourself and your way of communicating, rather than assuming it's 'everybody else' who's at fault.

You may think all you were doing is asking for towboater to make his posts more readable, but the way you phrased the comment was hyper-critical. There's no 'asking' for being 'bashed'. There's just people who are actively looking to bash others, and then justifying their bashing fetish with excuses like, 'but he didn't break up his comment into paragraphs! So he deserved it!'

Try saying something encouraging next time when you want to ask someone to consider changing the way they speak/write, rather than threatening. I, for one, want to hear other people's experiences with different CH treatment options, and that's far more important to me than critiquing their grammar or writing style, although I can understand it can be difficult to comprehend someone if their writing is convoluted or indecipherable.

jon019 wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 12:05pm:


  Go fish, smell like beer and bait and be the curmudgeon you were meant to be Jon.

            Potter

jon019 wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 3:02pm:


  Notice how OLD and CURMUDGEON are always used in the same sentence?

              Potter

AussieBrian wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 6:55am:


One which seems to be working for one person and he is trying out things to see how effective it is based on dose / frequency and even trying stopping it to see if the symptoms return or not, which is quite a scientific way of trying it out.

towboater wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 3:17pm:


Seeing as how I am the only person on this thread with any name somewhat similar to "Ronaldo" (You don't win any points in that whole "I'm going to put a tiny bit of effort into getting people to understand what the hell I'm talking about" department, but regardless....) and the fact that I most definitely (and with no apologies) picked and will pick this apart to pieces, until we feel like we really know all there is to know about it, I'm going to assume you are talking about me.   I pick this apart not because I want to disprove the effectiveness of anything but because I am scared of what can happen when taking these drugs lightly.  Another tryptamine that has been billed as "just like Psilocybin" got used in higher doses recently by one of our clusterbusters and it ended up with him having a complete psychotic breakdown and him in a padded cell for 45 days.  When you compare the two you find that 4-HO-MET has been used more and has been around longer than 5-MEO-DALT and yet there are more bad reports on 5-MEO-DALT.  I understand completely that people are talking about small doses of this stuff but to me it seems like what the idea of a "small" dose to the clusterbuster community is different than what a small dose is to the recreational drug community.  For dosages on Erowid it says the following--

Threshold  4-5 mg
Light         5-12 mg
Common   12-25 mg
Strong      25 +

But we have it listed in this thread that the recreational dose is 200 mg  That is one hell of a difference. 

The dosage that I have heard us talking about the most is 15 mg.  You can find reports of recreational users taking 15 mg to get high.  If I am missing something here somebody please point it out to me, but to me it looks like we are having a somewhat cavalier attitude towards a potentially very helpful substance.  I just do not want us to take this lightly and end up with dangerous situations that give helpful substances bad names.  (Try to find a clusterbuster that's going to go for 4-HO-MET at this point)  I also do not want to see anyone get hurt, and I know everyone on this board can say the same thing.  Under it's description on Erowid.org it only has two sentences--

"5-MeO-DALT is a synthetic psychedelic. It is extremely uncommon with nearly no history of human use."

One of the things I mentioned that I do not like about it is that you can not do a reaction test for it.  I point this out not to dissuade people from trying the drug but to point out that they should be extra careful when they get it.  All companies (even good labs) make mistakes.  I also point it out because we have some very smart people on this board who could possibly come up with the exact type of test that I am talking about. 

I am always about more options, not less and I'm not trying to talk anyone out of anything, I am only trying to convince people to tread carefully and above all look out for individual sensitivities or allergies that you might have.  (myself, I would try 1 mg as a test every time you get a new batch)

As far as legality goes, Maybe I'm wrong on the idea that you can be prosecuted under the federal analog act. (but I don't think so)  I'm going to reach out to some drug law experts that I am in contact with and I'll let you guys know their take on it.

The original links that were posted no longer seem to be working.  Are there new links to the details on this busting method?

Towboater-- sorry you are having such a bad experience here but I am hesitant to say it's anyone else's fault.  I know it sure as hell isn't mine

-Ronaldo