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Hoppy CH.com Alumnus Offline LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE Posts: 1890 Perth WA Gender:	I'm Curious ? Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:00pm I'm curious! When in a cycle and taking Verapamil or similar as a preventative, how can you tell whether the has left or not? Cheers Hoppy
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jon019 CH.com Alumnus Offline "Ya gotta believe!" Posts: 1656 USA Gender:	Re: I'm Curious ? Reply #1 - Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:09pm Interesting question....for many years I used verapamil...sometimes 1000 mg/dy...even then it was only 70% effective in reducing hits. Episodic then....tho I just stayed on full time as it was "painful" to ramp up when the next cycle started. I suspect that you "know" when the usual pattern is "less so"...YMMV... Best Jon
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CDog CH.com Veteran Offline Posts: 163 Rockies Gender:	Re: I'm Curious ? Reply #2 - Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:16pm If I miss a dose the next HA is stronger. Verapamil doesn't stop the HA's for me, just makes them less strong...
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Hoppy CH.com Alumnus Offline LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE Posts: 1890 Perth WA Gender:	Re: I'm Curious ? Reply #3 - Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:27pm G'day Jon, The reason I ask this question is because being a Spring and Fall clusterhead myself, I never used any preventatives, only abortive meds, Migral, Zyprexa, and then before starting the vitamin D regimen, Imitrex, so I new when the beast had gone! No more attacks. Hoppy
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AussieBrian CH.com Hall of Famer Offline CH - It's all in your head! Posts: 3851 Cairns, Qld, Australia Gender:	Re: I'm Curious ? Reply #4 - Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:30pm Hoppy wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:00pm: ...how can you tell whether the has left or not? We must be the only people within medical science to use the Beer Test as a diagnostic tool.
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Hoppy CH.com Alumnus Offline LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE Posts: 1890 Perth WA Gender:	Re: I'm Curious ? Reply #5 - Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:42pm Aussie Brian wrote, We must be the only people within medical science to use the Beer Test as a diagnostic tool. So what your saying is, if your on a preventative and keeping the beast at bay, you'll still get an attack if still in a cycle and you have beer? Hoppy
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AussieBrian CH.com Hall of Famer Offline CH - It's all in your head! Posts: 3851 Cairns, Qld, Australia Gender:	Re: I'm Curious ? Reply #6 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:16am Nah. Passing the Beer Test means having a beer and not getting hit, which proves you've beaten the bastage yet again!
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AussieBrian wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:16am:

Nah. Passing the Beer Test means having a beer and not getting hit, which proves you've beaten the bastage yet again!

Well for those of us who can pass the beer test when in cycle, it isn't a useful test.

However for me when I was using verapamil as a preventive it was never 100% perfect, so I'd still get a few CHs, so my end of cycle detection was based on not getting any CHs over a few weeks when I'd have expected to have had a few.

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AussieBrian CH.com Hall of Famer Offline CH - It's all in your head! Posts: 3851 Cairns, Qld, Australia Gender:	Re: I'm Curious ? Reply #8 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 7:15am Mike NZ wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:26am: Well for those of us who can pass the beer test when in cycle, it isn't a useful test. No test is perfect, of course, but this one has been around Clusterville for a while and has brought great joy to those who've found they can finally pass it. Gotta love that happy dance!
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