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Jan 27th, 2018 at 7:53am
 
Well Bloody hell! It has been a long night.

So my name is Justin, though I go by Barcode to most of my friends.

     I experienced my first really bad "headache" back around 2012. Thought I was having an aneurysm, but was sure I wasnt old enough for that, so I attributed it to referred dental pain. (My dad's side of the family blessed me with a genetic abnormality that melts away our enamel by the time we hit 20, thank you Jesus for that little blessing.) I went to the doctor. He agreed. Gave me some Maxalt. Got a few more of these nasty headaches that woke me up every night about an hour after I went to sleep for about 2 or 3 weeks and then they stopped. About a year later they came back, again for a few weeks. Again at night. Again I assumed it was due to tooth decay getting worse. At this point I went and got a bunch of them removed. Doctor switched me to sumitriptan tablets and topamax for the headaches which again went away after a couple weeks. Stopped taking the meds...

     Fast forward, the cycle repeats itself pretty much every year in January or February they come back...finally I decide to do a little research this year. I dont have that many teeth left and when i noticed the dates on my pill bottles it occurred to me the regularity that these things had. When I read about cluster headaches and their "alarm clock" traits i was like oh hey, thats me! Every damn night, right when I need to be going to bed to get enough rest so that I can get up for work. So every morning I feel hungover from these godforsaken cursed torture episodes. The 1-10 pain scale does not cover the intensity. Wet towel compresses seemed to help at first, now they seem to help for a moment but then they start to feel like ice then feel like they are burning. The pain starts as a small burning sensation in my left nostril, like the air itself hurts a little. Then i get that dull ache behind my left eye, and the nerve or muscle or something in my temple starts to spasm ever so slightly at first. This goes on for the first 10 minutes or so and is my "warning" if it decides to be nice enough to give me this preparation time. Shortly after this it goes full blown to the point I fully understand why they call them suicide headaches. It feels like a knife is in my temple, digging in and twisting behind my eye. The muscle, or nerve or tendon or whatever that runs along the bottom of the temple is spasming and pulsing sometimes so much that it feels like a creature moving under my skin(Edit: This isn't visible movement or a spasm that could be palpated as far as I know, more of a feeling). Sometimes pressure applied seems to help, sometimes it seems to make it worse. Sometimes all I can do is rock back and forth and kick the bed repeatedly. Sometimes I find sticking my finger on that place where your upper and lower jaw come together inside your mouth and applying pressure relieves the pain temporarily, but then I feel like it is even worse after.

To make matters worse, to deal with dental pain, i usually have a rum and coke or two before bed. I don't binge and cant remember the last time I was ever stumbling or slurring drunk, just 1 or 2 to take the edge off and help me go to sleep at night, but come to find out during a cluster that is the primary trigger. So now I am not going to be able to sleep either way.

I recently tried taking the topamax again as this most recent cluster started about a week ago and I have been having one every night. The topamax worked Thursday night after two nights of taking it, but the side effects by friday afternoon were so severe I felt like I needed to go to the emergency room. This was only at 25mg. I had tingling in my hands the first day. Then my whole face the next. By lunch time friday I was getting palpitations, irregular heartbeats, nystagmus, vertigo, and hella brain fog and wasnt even at a therapeutic dose yet. So I said hell no. I mean a few side effects are better than these headaches, but a heart attack or a stroke? A few baby aspirin and a quarter mg of xanax (yes, prescribed to me,) helped with the palpitations. After looking into it more it seems verapamil is the way to go anyway. Will have to schedule an appointment on Monday. Unfortunately, not taking the topamax last night meant back to the torture tonight. 11:30 came around and sure enough that burning sensation came along, the pain subsided enough for me to check the time again around 1AM. The annoying part is with topamax's 21 hour half life it's gonna take a few days before anything tastes right again. That drug is awful. I dont recommend it to anyone.

     So anyway, yeah preeeetty sure these are cluster headaches though admittedly it is self diagnosed. I'll probably be lurking around the boards for a while now. Guess my next step is to go to my doctor and get a referral to the headache and pain center and try to avoid the douchebag doctor there that doesnt actually believe in managing peoples pain. -_-
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Reply #1 - Jan 27th, 2018 at 6:03pm
 
check out the medication and treatment section  look for

Vitamin D regiment and read read helps out a lot.

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Reply #2 - Jan 27th, 2018 at 10:31pm
 
G'day Barcode, welcome, and you're right about self-diagnosis perhaps not being a perfect way to go, but as you said you're off to find a headache specialist and this is really good for two reasons.

Firstly to find out that it is Clusters which means you can start on some excellent treatment plans and begin to reclaim some of your life.  Secondly, it's to make sure it isn't something sinister that isn't Clusters at all.

Consider keeping a headache diary, too, as this can really assist a professional in tracking down a cause.  List things like the time, speed of onset, intensity, what you were doing, what you'd been eating and all that sort of thing. Looking for a pattern, triggers perhaps.

Also keep a list of all the questions you want ask while you're there.

Please stay in touch and let us know how you're getting on.

We care.
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Reply #3 - Jan 30th, 2018 at 10:53pm
 
     First of All, I want to thank the people that sent me info and support here and in private. Any information I can get that helps with coping or treating these is very much appreciated.

    Secondly, I apologize, for the rather negative tone of my first post. Maybe not the best introduction. But as I said I was writing it in the middle of the night after an attack and wasn't really at my most tactful. I also went back and edited a bit to make it a little less offensive to the eyes. I typed that on my phone so formatting wasn't really a primary concern at the time.

     Next, an update. After Friday I was so burned out on headaches and side effects I slept til about 2 in the afternoon. Around 9 I started feeling...tension in the base of the skull on that side and occasionally just these hints of the feeling of an attack. I guess you could call it shadows. I'm not sure. I decided to preemptively take the sumitriptan tablet to try to get a night of peace. Midnight came and went and I had no headache. So Sunday I waited til I started feeling these shadow and did this again and again I managed to spend the night free of the beast.
     Monday I tried calling the doctor and nobody answered or it kept going to busy signals the 20 or so times I tried calling. So I booked time off work for Tuesday morning and decided to get to my doctor's office an hour before they opened to ensure I would be one of the two walk-ins they would see today. But I decided to take a risk, no pill Monday night. If the beast came I would record it and the autonomic effects as further evidence of my self-diagnosis. If he didn't, even better. To my surprise, no headache Monday night. Had a few light shadow feelings but nothing as intense as what triggered me to take the Sumitriptan the two days before. As part of my preparation, I printed off an article from a peer reviewed European Journal that was a literature review on various studies published on CH. I went through and highlighted all the relevant information on diagnosis, general need to know, and treatment recommendations.

In my pain free evening I decided to start my headache journal. (I know, you are supposed to journal days when you have headaches, not really wait until you don't have a headache to journal, meh.) I wrote everything I could remember,
about when they started, different times I had attacks, where I was and when it was. Unfortunately, that's not a lot. I have always had a bad memory when it comes to stuff that happened day to day. Facts and book info I retain well. But What I did last Friday I normally couldn't tell you (this time I can because it's posted up there^^^) But doing this, I did think to go search the old junk drawers and then look up my refill history from the pharmacy. My pharmacy history only goes back to 2016 but it Shows I filled my sumitriptan on 9/06/2016 and 2/23/17.
My first Maxalt script bottle that I have is from 9/2/12. and Current Cluster being about a month off the February refill from last year.  (I think I may have gone back and refilled because I was running low after the fact). Seems like a twice a year thing for me more or less.

Anyway,  A bunch of potentially useless information up there I guess. The point is, today I took all that info to the doctor and with the article, my description of the symptoms, a chart review, and the medication refill history, along with the fact my previous doctor already did a CT scan with contrast when this started, he agreed completely that I have CH. He is just a family practice doctor and locally can't prescribe o2, or sumatriptan injections, or enough prednisone to be effective. (I get the first two, but really I'm sure most of you all know the recommended levels. He gave 20 mg x5 days. That level of prednisone isn't really effective against a common respiratory infection let alone a CH.)  But he hooked it up with 240 mg Verapamil, and got me the Sumatriptan inhalers instead of the tablets so I guess that's an improvement. They are giving me a referral to a Neurologist, but no appointment set yet. 

Currently, I have what I would describe as more than a shadow, but not an attack. I don't remember having this before but maybe wasn't paying attention? It's a headache for sure. I haven't taken anything as far as triptans or other pain relievers today. I think I would normally (outside of a cluster) rate the pain as severe, but compared to an attack it feels dull. But it is on that same side. There is no pain or abnormal sensation on the right side of my head or face. It started early. Around 6pm. It's now almost 10pm. I'm wondering if maybe the low dose of steroids and early treatment with verapamil(I have been taking some extremely out of date verapamil at 80mg a day before starting at the 240mg dosage today. It may have been 4 years old but it was potent enough to kill my appetite so it's doing something) is maybe delaying an attack from kicking in full force but not preventing it all-together so it is just hanging there in an in-between limbo state. Is that something any of you have ever experienced?

I'm sure that's more than enough information for one post. Sorry for rambling. Crossing my fingers for tonight.

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Reply #4 - Feb 2nd, 2018 at 11:53am
 
Quick update.

I'm now 99% sure my episode is over. Thank God! To you guys that suffer chronic, I can't even begin to imagine what you go through and I hope you find relief soon.

I havent had an attack since the weekend, but I do have a low level residual feeling that I dont remember having after my last episodes. It isn't even so much a pain, just a sensation of constantly being aware of that nerve and in the evenings it tends to turn into a mild unilateral headache that feels like a shadow of a cluster attack. Like instead of 100 demons poking my eye with fire pokers from the inside it's 2 or 3 doing it while they delicately dance on my optic nerve. This is accompanied by a sense of pressure just in front of the ear over the TMJ, a feeling of tightness in the forehead on that side, and a bit of tenderness at the base of the skull on the left side.

I know you guys arent doctors and I'm not asking for 'medical advice.' Just wondering if anybody else with episodicCH experiences this. I am still waiting for the call for the appointment with the neurologist so until then you guys are my best source of information.

I have spent the majority of my free time researching CH and this Vitamin D thing. It's curious how many diseases seem to be related to Vitamin D deficiency. Since most doctors seem unaware of the Vitamin D thing and woyld probably be horrified at the mention of taking loading doses this high; Huh I was wondering if anyone here that has used the protocol has ever experieced side effects of hypercalcemia and maybe kidney stones? That much vitamin D combined with enough cofactors to make it usable and a diet that promotes absorption seems like it dances on the edge of the toxicity level. Also, do you have specific times of the day that you find better to take the various meds? i.e. vitamin d increases the calcium levels which can increase restlessness and anxiety but magnesium counteracts this and helps promote relaxation, so is it best to maybe take the vitamin d in the morning to let the increased restlessness wear off by evening then take the magnesium at dinner to help chill and sleep better?

Last question. I know it would be a lot of work to compile data, but it seems a place like this would be an ideal location to have a place where people could list symptoms that may or may not be related. A full medical history type deal. Anonymously if needed. Then to compile all that and search for more common threads that may be related. Spread sheets and technology make this easier today than it ever was in the past and research studies suffer from severely small samples and limiting standardised testing protocols and surveys that frequently limit your answers to a scale of 1-10 with no way to elaborate or describe possible pertinent information. For example, when I was wroting in my journal I remembered that shortly after I started having cluster headaches I started having some transient vision problems. I remember being tested back in school for vision dominance and I was left eye dominant. I am now right eye dominant. This is a fairly easy test but not many people know what their dominant eye is let alone what it was before they started getting clusters. I wonder if the dysfunction in the trigeminal nerve and the pain made my brain recoil from the pain and reestablish dominance to the right eye to help compartmentalize the pain and maintain function. One of the reasons I notice this is because changing vision dominance really messed with my pool game. I used to play multiple times a week, but as I shoot left handed and am now right eye dominant it is harder to align shots. I also noticed some "starburst" effects with lights at night started about this time. I have had my eyes checked by an optometrist and there is no corneal dysfunction or calcification which is usually what causes this. Who knows? Maybe other people with cluster get that, maybe they dont, but considering how much my eye hurts during an attack it could be related. But that wouldnt likely show up in a research study questionaire. Idk maybe yall have a place to share symptoms like that and I just havent seen it yet, but if not it could be interesting.   Just a thought.
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Reply #5 - Feb 3rd, 2018 at 1:57pm
 
Noooooo! They came back. 1 week pain free(ish). Nothing but shadows all week then I get one waking me up at 8AM. I've never had a morning attack before. It wasn't AS bad as usual, no kicking the bed or banging my head, just rolling back and forth wanting to cry. I skipped the imitrex and decided to try the ice on the carotid technique. that seemed to help a bit. fell asleep in about an hour. But woke up after noon still hurting. Not full blown attack hurting, just feels like a piece of it never went away with the rest. sigh. Undecided Cry
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