not quick to dismiss failures at all...

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Posted by pinksharkmark ( on January 30, 2001 at 01:53:58:

In Reply to: 2 cents posted by Todd on January 29, 2001 at 20:19:36:

... just trying to gather more info.

I have posted more than once messages asking for people who DID try it with no relief to step forward. Still waiting for replies.

I know of a few who claim it didn't work. August, for one, had only partial and temporary relief. It is possible the effectiveness was reduced in her case due to the other meds she was taking. Or, maybe not. Maybe she would have had no better results if she was completely med-free.

One other person definitely took the wrong mushrooms, according to Flash. I have no way of knowing whether or not that is true. Perhaps Flash could elaborate. It is possible that even if that person took the right mushrooms, it might not have worked.

Cheryl's husband had no success with his first try, and I am virtually certain that he used the right kind of mushroom. He took a fairly sizeable dose... enough for him to tell that he was getting a high from them. He was also taking opioids at the time, to deal with the pain from the CH. Is it possible those meds interfered with the mushrooms? Before Cheryl's report, I would have guessed no. From what I know about opioids, the mechanism by which they work their magic is a completely different pathway. So maybe the reason the mushrooms failed for him had nothing to do with the narcotics he was taking. It is entirely possible that even if he had been completely drug free, they wouldn't have done the job.

I will concede that it is possible that mushrooms won't work for everyone, or that they won't work for people who are on "x" or "y" medication. The frustrating thing is that since 1970 or thereabouts, virtually all clinical investigations into the properties of psilocybin and LSD ground to a screeching halt, so we are operating on very little information. There is no literature to speak of to guide us as to which meds may interfere with the action of these drugs. We are, in a very literal sense, guinea pigs.

I still say that in my research of literally thousands of posts here, I have yet to come across anything else that even REMOTELY approaches the success rate of psilocybin/LSD therapy. Even if it is ultimately proven that it does not work for everyone, it still indisputably outranks any of the other medications. By a lot.

If it was legal, it would be the "Gold Standard" by which other meds are measured... supplanting Imitrex, oxygen and verapamil.

Bet on it.


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