Yet Another Bulletin Board

Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register.
Nov 12th, 2019, 6:33pm

Home Home Help Help Search Search Members Members Member Map Member Map Login Login Register Register
Clusterheadaches.com Message Board « Viagra »


   Clusterheadaches.com Message Board
   Cluster Headache Help and Support
   Cluster Headache Specific
(Moderator: DJ)
   Viagra
« Previous topic | Next topic »
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print
   Author  Topic: Viagra  (Read 8041 times)
jenniferczarnik
New Board Newbie
USA 
*



I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

   


Posts: 2
Viagra
« on: Apr 14th, 2008, 3:41pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

My husband has not had a cluster headache for at least 6 years now. He is terrified to try viagra, i cannot find any info on this.  Does viagra trigger a cluster headache??
IP Logged
seasonalboomer
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****



If I think hard enough maybe it'll go away.....

   


Gender: male
Posts: 2248
Re: Viagra
« Reply #1 on: Apr 14th, 2008, 3:50pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

on Apr 14th, 2008, 3:41pm, jenniferczarnik wrote:
My husband has not had a cluster headache for at least 6 years now. He is terrified to try viagra, i cannot find any info on this.  Does viagra trigger a cluster headache??

 
Then don't try it.  
IP Logged

-----------------------------------------------------
seasonal boomer
-----------------------------------------------------
jenniferczarnik
New Board Newbie
USA 
*



I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

   


Posts: 2
Re: Viagra
« Reply #2 on: Apr 14th, 2008, 3:57pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Looking for some real information on this!!
IP Logged
seasonalboomer
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****



If I think hard enough maybe it'll go away.....

   


Gender: male
Posts: 2248
Re: Viagra
« Reply #3 on: Apr 14th, 2008, 4:12pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

That was real.  
 
If the guy is terrified to try it, then don't try it. Why do you need a "study" to tell you anything else?
IP Logged

-----------------------------------------------------
seasonal boomer
-----------------------------------------------------
Brew
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****




Low Four!

   


Gender: male
Posts: 6515
Re: Viagra
« Reply #4 on: Apr 14th, 2008, 4:22pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Imitrex, oxygen - both vasoconstrictors.
 
Viagra, Cialis - both vasodialators. Opposite effect.
 
First, stop being terrified. It's been 6 years - I say give it a shot. But be prepared for the outcome.
IP Logged

Always remember that you're unique, just like everyone else.
Guiseppi
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****





   
Email

Gender: male
Posts: 2703
Re: Viagra
« Reply #5 on: Apr 14th, 2008, 4:36pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

I'm with Brew. I'd have oxygen and maybe an imitrex shot available just in case.  I haven't seen anything posted on the board about this before. 30 years of battling the beast and I don't think anything has ever "triggered" a cycle. They just come and go as they please. While on cycle I avoid the bad triggers, alcohol, etc.  
 
While I can understand him being concerned, I'd still say have the abortive medications at the ready and give it a shot! Good luck.  Wink
 
Guiseppi
IP Logged

Why are all sensors, seeking intelligent life, pointed AWAY from earth?
monty
New Board Veteran
USA 
***





   


Posts: 215
Re: Viagra
« Reply #6 on: Apr 14th, 2008, 5:32pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

I am an episodic in remission for a few years.  Haven't tried viagra, but I have played around with Epimedium (horny goat weed), ashwaganda, and ginseng, and for the most part, haven't had a problem with them (once had a headache like a shadow after taking ginseng, but that was unusual). These are probably not as extreme as viagra, but there was a definite effect.  
 
Viagra has an action similar to nitroglycerin in several ways (increases nitric oxide and vasodilation).  Nitroglycerin is a fairly dependable way to provoke a cluster or migraine if a person is susceptible ... ie, episodics in cycle, some chronics. Viagra has also been noted as a trigger for migraines.  I would be wary about using it in cycle or if chronic. I suspect it is like alcohol, and may not provoke in some chronics, but I don't know for sure.  
 
« Last Edit: Apr 14th, 2008, 5:36pm by monty » IP Logged

The outer boundary of what we currently believe is feasible is far short of what we actually must do.
vietvet2tours
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****




Team MOOSE DROOL Stinky Stuff on a Hook Prostaff

   


Gender: male
Posts: 1499
Re: Viagra
« Reply #7 on: Apr 14th, 2008, 5:45pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Get a Bob.
 
   Potter
IP Logged

Kill em all let God sort em out
chewy
Guest

Email

Re: Viagra
« Reply #8 on: Apr 14th, 2008, 6:34pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify Remove Remove

If an erection lasts more than 4 hours contact your doctor.
 
and all the local newspapers, television stations, any national magazines that will listen, and of course....Oprah.
IP Logged
Bob P
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****




Shut up Bob!

   
WWW Email

Gender: male
Posts: 3436
Re: Viagra
« Reply #9 on: Apr 15th, 2008, 10:32am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

I'd bet that if he was episodic and hasn't had a cluster bout in 6 years, Viagra won't start one.
 
God seems to be pretty good about making our clusters go away once we get old enough to need Viagra!
IP Logged

Mrs. Barlow, I never, and I repeat never, ever pissed in your steam iron.

"SHUT UP HUB!"
vietvet2tours
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****




Team MOOSE DROOL Stinky Stuff on a Hook Prostaff

   


Gender: male
Posts: 1499
Re: Viagra
« Reply #10 on: Apr 15th, 2008, 12:16pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

on Apr 14th, 2008, 6:34pm, chewy wrote:
If an erection lasts more than 4 hours contact your doctor.
 
and all the local newspapers, television stations, any national magazines that will listen, and of course....Oprah.

 
 That's some funny shit.  Bettin no cases have ever been reported.  If that happens all ya hear is a  roll over baby I ain't done with ya yet.
 
       Potter
IP Logged

Kill em all let God sort em out
Brew
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****




Low Four!

   


Gender: male
Posts: 6515
Re: Viagra
« Reply #11 on: Apr 15th, 2008, 10:19pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

on Apr 15th, 2008, 12:16pm, vietvet2tours wrote:
If that happens all ya hear is a roll over baby I ain't done with ya yet.

Or the classic Milwaukee foreplay line: "Brace yourself, Stella."
IP Logged

Always remember that you're unique, just like everyone else.
Racer1_NC
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****




"Beeeyul the Cat"

   
Email

Gender: male
Posts: 1887
Re: Viagra
« Reply #12 on: Apr 15th, 2008, 10:22pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

on Apr 14th, 2008, 6:34pm, chewy wrote:
...... and of course....Oprah.

If that doesn't kill one, nothing will.....
IP Logged

"Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime."


Eventus stultorum magister.
cluster
New Board Veteran
Germany 
***




Water X 3 - It works !

   
WWW

Gender: male
Posts: 137
Re: Viagra
« Reply #13 on: Apr 16th, 2008, 4:09am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Quote:

The patient is a 46year-old man with a history of cluster headaches beginning at age 17. The headaches were typified by a severe, right-sided, throbbing pain associated with lacrimation and nasal congestion occurring about two to three times per day; the attacks would occur repetitively over a period of a month and then remit for months or longer. They could be precipitated by drinking alcohol. In the past, they had been treated with verapamil, lithium, and corticosteroids. The patient’s last attack had been 3 years ago. In July of this year, the patient had taken two tablets of Viagra 50 mg for the first time at 9 PM. Approximately 4 hours later, he was awakened from sleep with a typical, severe, throbbing, right-sided headache.  
 
The headache remitted after about an hour and, thereafter, he was headache-free. Two days later, he repeated the two tablets of Viagra at 9 PM and again awoke at 1 AM with a typical, throbbing, right-sided headache, He ceased using Viagra after this. Subsequently, he began having typical cluster headaches on a regular basis, usually at 12 to 1 AM, 4 to 5 AM, and again around 8 AM; they would rarely occur after 10 AM, although he reported feeling like he was on the “verge” of an attack during the day.
 
[...]
 
While it is possible the patient’s cluster headache recurrence was coincidental, the history suggests a cause and effect relationship. It will be interesting to see if more reports of this relationship appear in the next few years.
 
Source: Stein M.: Viagra and Cluster Headache. Headache. 1999 Jan; 39(1): 58-60. Letter. PMID 15613198.
Online (but not for free):
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi/10.1046/j.1526-4610.1999.t01- 1-3901058.x

 
Viagra = Sildenafil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sildenafil
 
See also:
 
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1526-4610.2006.00316_ 4.x
 
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1468-2982.2006.01071. x
 
Best wishes,
Friedrich
 
Edit to fix link, hope it works now.
« Last Edit: Apr 16th, 2008, 4:14am by cluster » IP Logged

-> Click here to join O.U.C.H.

http://ck-wissen.de - German CH Site

"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge"
Daniel J.Boorstin
Karla
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****




One of Many and Never Alone - Join OUCH

  Karlak_1313  
Email

Gender: female
Posts: 3090
Re: Viagra
« Reply #14 on: Apr 16th, 2008, 6:56pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

I seem to recall from an OUCH conference that a dr was saying that viagra is known to trigger ch.  But we all know that just because it does for one person doesn't mean it will for another person.  Also each cycle can be different for a person as to what triggers and doesn't.  I say try it and have abortives on hand just in case.
IP Logged

Karla
suffer chronic ch
ch.com groupie since 1999
Proud Mom of Chris USMC Semper Fi
chewy
Guest

Email

Re: Viagra
« Reply #15 on: Apr 16th, 2008, 9:09pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify Remove Remove

If the erection lasts longer than the Ch then just ride it out.
 
Ride, ride, ride....let it ride.  Cool
IP Logged
Annette
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
Australia 
*****




Veni Vidi Velcro

   
Email

Gender: female
Posts: 1874
Re: Viagra
« Reply #16 on: Apr 16th, 2008, 9:23pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify


This is an honest and serious question from a supporter: is it normal for a CHer to still feel that much fear of a CH attack even after 6 years of being painfree ?  
 
If its normal it still cant be good to live in such fear, right ?
 
Shouldnt something be done about that fear first before trying to convince the person to try or not to try something based on someone elses experiences ?  
IP Logged

Mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself; but talent instantly recognizes genius.
Arthur Conan Doyle
Linda_Howell
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****



Hearing is one thing.  Listening is another.

  N/A   N/A
WWW Email

Gender: female
Posts: 6721
Re: Viagra
« Reply #17 on: Apr 16th, 2008, 9:36pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify


 
   I'm with Bob.  Bob Pahlow that is.  
 
After 6 years?    go for it.
IP Logged

Kindness, is gladdening the hearts of those who are traveling the dark journey with us.
Giovanni
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****




I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

   
Email

Gender: male
Posts: 764
Re: Viagra
« Reply #18 on: Apr 16th, 2008, 9:50pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

on Apr 14th, 2008, 6:34pm, chewy wrote:
If an erection lasts more than 4 hours contact your doctor.

 
And request a refill.
 
John  Wink
IP Logged
superhawk2300
New Board Old Timer
USA 
****





   
Email

Gender: male
Posts: 440
Re: Viagra
« Reply #19 on: Apr 16th, 2008, 9:55pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Well, we are all "family" right?
 
During this last cycle I was so tired and beat. Needless to say we went without sex for about 2 months. I got a few doctor friends. I had one give me a couple of viagra to get me through the slump - my wife is gorgeous and mentally I was really getting lonely but physically I was spent. I know it sounds dumb. I am a man. I need my sexin. I really didn't consider what viagra does, even though I knew what it does and it was a heart medicine first - I just wasn't thinking about it.
 
Anyhow. The night I took one I instantly remembered EVERYTHING about viagra. It was the WORST HIT I HAVE HAD IN YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I will never ever ever ever ever x10000000 try that again!
 
Oddly enough, shortly after that, I started getting boners after really going on the 02 hard. Seemed like every single time I was going HARD on the 02 it would make me hard a minute or so after I was off of it.
 
Try running some 02 hard and see what it gets you.
 
Beware Viagra!!!!!!!!!
IP Logged
vietvet2tours
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****




Team MOOSE DROOL Stinky Stuff on a Hook Prostaff

   


Gender: male
Posts: 1499
Re: Viagra
« Reply #20 on: Apr 16th, 2008, 10:27pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

on Apr 16th, 2008, 9:23pm, Annette wrote:

This is an honest and serious question from a supporter: is it normal for a CHer to still feel that much fear of a CH attack even after 6 years of being painfree ?  
 
If its normal it still cant be good to live in such fear, right ?
 
Shouldnt something be done about that fear first before trying to convince the person to try or not to try something based on someone elses experiences ?  

 
  You never ever lose the fear ma dear.   As for this serious supporter she made two posts and bailed.
 
   Potter
 
 
IP Logged

Kill em all let God sort em out
Annette
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
Australia 
*****




Veni Vidi Velcro

   
Email

Gender: female
Posts: 1874
Re: Viagra
« Reply #21 on: Apr 16th, 2008, 11:32pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

on Apr 16th, 2008, 10:27pm, vietvet2tours wrote:

 
  You never ever lose the fear ma dear.  
 
   Potter
 
 

 
 
Thank you Potter, this is really important for a supporter to know, and remember.  
 
IP Logged

Mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself; but talent instantly recognizes genius.
Arthur Conan Doyle
beachmusic
Guest

Email

Re: Viagra
« Reply #22 on: Apr 17th, 2008, 8:38pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify Remove Remove

Maybe just maybe they got the viagra and they are busy  Wink
IP Logged
jjslugdog
New Board Newbie
USA 
*




Dance all night!

   
Email

Gender: male
Posts: 25
Re: Viagra
« Reply #23 on: Apr 28th, 2008, 2:23am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

It was 2-1/2 years from my last episode until this one.  I've used Viagra probably 15 times during that time.  Last time I used it, Saturday, April 19th.  This episode started Sunday, April 20th.  I've got about 15 100mg tabs left if anyone wants 'em to see if it will start a cycle.  I'll never touch the sh*t again.
IP Logged

Timeslowing, forever, exquisite pain is like the Marine Corps. The few, the proud, the brave.
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print

« Previous topic | Next topic »


Clusterheadaches.com Message Board » Powered by YaBB 1 Gold - SP 1.3.1!
YaBB © 2000-2003. All Rights Reserved.


©1998-2010 Web Vision Enterprises All rights reserved. All information on this site is protected by international copyright laws. You may not re-distribute any information from this site without written permission from Web Vision Enterprises and the webmaster of this site. Violators will be prosecuted.
You may view our privacy policy and financial disclosure statement here

test rss