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« on: Jan 16th, 2006, 4:54pm » |
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Never have I been witness to such a complete disregard for the truth in combination with a load of misplaced indignation.
The Mayor of New Orleans, today, in a speech, spoke about a conversation he had with MLK and God.
What a racist!
Think I'll call in sick for the rest of my life cause even God said that New Orleans belongs to black people.
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Otay so since I am only part black how much do I get?  
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Mayor: New Orleans to be "chocolate" again
1/16/2006, 1:16 p.m. CT
By BRETT MARTEL
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NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Mayor Ray Nagin told a crowd gathered at City Hall for a Martin Luther King Day march that New Orleans will be "chocolate" again.
"We ask black people ... It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild New Orleans — the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans," Nagin said Monday. "This city will be a majority African American city. It's the way God wants it to be. You can't have New Orleans no other way. It wouldn't be New Orleans."
God help any white guy who calls it a chocolate city. Nagin is a racist moron.
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 16th, 2006, 6:22pm » |
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Whoa, then he better talk to Mr. Farrakhan! This was in the TImes Picayune
http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/metro/index.ssf?/base/news-12/1137309654420 20.xml
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Farrakhan chimed in with his own thoughts about an opportunity provided by Katrina.
"God, through Katrina, which was God-made and man-made, gave us an opportunity not only to unite the forces in this locale, but . . . to use Katrina and the victims of Katrina as the clarion call to unite a whole people to action," he said.
New Orleans cannot be rebuilt until "we are reconstructed," said the Nation of Islam leader, who announced after touring ravaged parts of the city that he planned to produce a DVD to tell the world about the city's plight.
In addition to overcoming harm caused by Katrina, African-Americans must overcome damage caused by racism, Farrakhan said, alluding to neighborhoods with a history of racial divides.
"There must be a reconstruction of our minds," he said. "New Orleans is a city that reflects the sickness of what white supremacy has done -- a section of town for the Creoles" where the "brown bag test" was applied to skin color. "Can you build on that kind of garbage of self-hatred?"
Now, I don't know about anybody else, but New Orleans has been ruled by blacks for many years, black mayors going back years, black representatives, and so on.
Pardon the pun, but methinks the pot is calling the kettle black.
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Re: God wants it that way..
« Reply #4 on: Jan 16th, 2006, 6:51pm » |
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Quote: (AP) — Mayor [insert your mayor] told a crowd gathered at City Hall... that [insert your city] will be "chocolatevanilla" again.
... It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild [insert your city]— the one that should be a chocolatevanilla [insert your city]," ...It's the way God wants it to be. You can't have [insert your city] no other way. It wouldn't be [insert your city]." |
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wait, that don't look so smart, in fact, that's sounds bad even about 150 years old.
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 16th, 2006, 6:54pm » |
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Whose God?
Do I need to take extra clips when I go down?
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 17th, 2006, 2:09am » |
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Wonder why he didn't make that speech the day before Bush was there to promise all those billions from people of all colors?
I read Farakan's speech too and it sounds like they think they've finally figured out a way to get reparations. Sad indeed.
Sorry Steve....I expect things to get worse before they get better.
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 17th, 2006, 7:31am » |
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MLK had a DREAM - but I don't think that was IT!
If I recollect correctly I think MLK said a lot about EQUAL RIGHTS - not BLACK SUPREMECY! I really think a lot of "African-Americans" (how's that for PC) have taken his words WAYYY out of context.
Steve, hang in there. The Mayor of N O is an idiot and it shows every time he opens his mouth. There's always the next election.
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 17th, 2006, 8:12am » |
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Quote:In his speech, Nagin also said "God is mad at America," in part because he does not approve "of us being in Iraq under false pretenses."
"He is sending hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it is destroying and putting stress on this country," Nagin said. |
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He sounds too much like Pat Robertson. Hurricanes aren't divine retribution for not arresting gays at Disneyworld, nor for any foreign military (mis)adventures. They are storms.
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Re: God wants it that way..
« Reply #9 on: Jan 17th, 2006, 8:33am » |
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on Jan 16th, 2006, 4:57pm, Ghost wrote:Otay so since I am only part black how much do I get?
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Okay, we'll gladly give you the lower ninth and eleventh wards .
on Jan 17th, 2006, 7:31am, BarbaraD wrote:The Mayor of N O is an idiot and it shows every time he opens his mouth. There's always the next election.
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Elections are a joke in New Orleans. New Orleans has the highest population of dead voters in the world. Add that to the fact that all those busses that didn't get the refugees out would have been put into action if there was a election and all those poor Democrats needed to get to the polls. OF course, noone knows when the elections will be held in New Orleans/Orleans Parish. Funny, Florida held a mjor presidential election within months of being battered by hurricanes. Lake Charles, LA has held two elections since Rita. Oh, but I forget, the voter base in New Orelans (mainly those poor democrats) is spread around the country and if they can't get them back, the Dems might just lose possesion of the majority vote, gasp!
To put another spin on things, here's a quote from Nagin~'This morning Forgotston.com caught up with Mayor Ray Nagin as he deplaned the flight from his home in Dallas. Nagin had a brief stop-over in New Orleans before heading to Washington, D.C. to complain about his having to grovel before Congress.
Mayor Nagin offered a candid response to yesterday’s three shootings in the city at a second line parade intended to show unity and support for the city’s rebuilding.
“The shootings at the parade are just another indication of our return to normalcy in the city. On the positive side nobody was killed. Which is more evidence of the excellent work being done by the NOPD to rid the city of the marksmen.”
As the mayor was getting on his flight to D.C. he turned and said: “Come on home, we’re the safest city in America.”
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Re: God wants it that way..
« Reply #10 on: Jan 17th, 2006, 8:52am » |
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God is indeed mad at New Orleans residents. God is upset that he made people that do not realize that their city is below sea-level. God is upset that the mayor of New Orleans and the Governor have to be the two stupidest people he ever created. God is mad that people created horror stories about what happened in the superdome. And God is now really pissed that they used the day of the greatness of MLK to discuss such crap !I was in New Orleans five years ago and I was not impressed at all--as a matter of fact it was filthy . I think the people deserve better --next time they should find the right candidate for the mayor's office.And the Governor should be unemployed.
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« Reply #11 on: Jan 17th, 2006, 8:56am » |
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New Orleans is perhaps the only city in America that has to put up billboards reminding people "thou shall not kill". I worked there in the late 90s for 10 months. It was a dangerous place.
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Thanks for the link Bobw. I see what he's trying to say but it's... ignorant. Forget the Dutch technology of levees and dams, here's a better plan. 
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“New Orleans is a Chocolate City,” Nagin declared...
The statement echoed similar comments Nagin had made to California Rep. Maxine Waters (D) during recent Congressional hearings. While most observers thought he was speaking metaphorically about the ethnic and racial makeup of the city’s residents, Nagin, it was revealed, was speaking in broader, more literal terms.
“If we turn New Orleans into a world of pure imagination,” Nagin continued, “there’s no telling what we can accomplish.”
Nagin was asked how the Chocolate City could protect flood prone areas from future storms.
“We’re talking caramel levees to withstand a category five. You know, the kind they put around apples and sell on the street at Mardi Gras. That shit’ll break your teeth. It sure as hell can take a storm surge.What part of pure imagination don’t you understand?”
...Recalling a conversation he had with Jamaican leaders about the Amsterdam model for flood protection, Nagin added, “They made a damn good point. You can talk all you want about their [the Dutch’s] sophisticated dams, but you can’t underestimate the gingerbread houses.”
Among the projects Nagin said are slated to make the dream a reality are affordable homes fortified with peanut brittle and raised eight to ten feet by peppermint stick pillars.
Addressing the issue of storm surge, Nagin advocated filling the Industrial Canal with fudge. “Y’all know chocolate is thicker than water.”
“Not only will we produce and sell candy, we’re going to have all kinds of transportation devices in there,” Nagin said. “Forget boats and buses next time. We’re talking about elevators that go sideways and diagonal, high pressure tubes. And while environmental restrictions prevent us from being able to supply enough fizzy water for every resident to float on out of here in an emergency, my friends in the telecommunications industry tell me we’re not far from human miniaturization through television waves. You want to talk evacuation plans? Imagine fitting an entire residential zip code into a carry-on bag?”
Nagin was asked if he would be bringing in director Tim Burton to consult on the construction of the Chocolate Factory.
[b]“Fuck, no. I said Chocolate City” Nagin replied. “I’m headed to Chicago tomorrow to talk to R. Kelly. George Clinton is already on board.”
When asked about the feasibility of the plan, and whether he could garner support at the state and federal level, Nagin again reiterated a claim he made to Congress.
“I’m protected by the truth.”
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Chocolate Factory
Artist / Band: R. Kelly
Record Label: Jive Records
Release Date: February 18, 2003
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Our Review:
Try as you might, it's impossible to ignore the allegations of child pornography brought against R&B crooner R. Kelly while listening to his latest album. But even if you can set that aside, you're still exposed to his sappy plea for forgiveness ("Heaven I Need a Hug" ). Hey, who's being punished here, anyway? Reportedly toned down from an earlier collection of songs (once titled Loveland), R. Kelly fires up the Chocolate Factory's assembly line and cranks out one satin soul love song after the next. Attempting to steer clear of the nasty stuff, these cuts are all about cooing and whatnot--"Dream Girl," "You Made Me Love You" and "Step in the Name of Love"--rather than more salacious past offerings (see "Feelin' on Yo Booty" ). Declawed and hesitant, it's hard to get excited about this piece of funkless confection.
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Re: God wants it that way..
« Reply #13 on: Jan 17th, 2006, 9:47am » |
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on Jan 17th, 2006, 8:33am, deltadarlin wrote:
Okay, we'll gladly give you the lower ninth and eleventh wards .
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Hang on Ghost..the way things are going I will soon be living on the Gulf coast.
The Lower 9 is beach front property.
The shit storm is really kicking on the forums at nola.com.
The chance that NO would spring back better is fading fast. Ignorance is leading the way...as expected.
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disgust at such remarks is all I can muster at this time
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'This morning Forgotston.com caught up with Mayor Ray Nagin as he deplaned the flight from his home in Dallas. |
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huh?
if the city is uninhabitable, he should at least be living in that state - last time I checked, Dallas wasn't part of Louisiana
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Nagin is backpaddling like an Olympian now.
How do you make chocolate? By mixing dark chocolate with white milk. Thats what I meant.
Nice try Nagin.
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on Jan 17th, 2006, 6:56pm, chewy wrote:Nagin is backpaddling like an Olympian now.
How do you make chocolate? By mixing dark chocolate with white milk. Thats what I meant.
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I posted the day after the hurricane nagins comments 'Im not one of those crack addicts looking for a Jones'
Or something like that.......How is this guy still there?
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I actually heard part of some apologies tonight. One of the strange things is that when I scan AM, I can usually pick up New Orleans. Always have.
Must be at least 1,500 miles. It always was a powerful station.
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I posted the day after the hurricane nagins comments 'Im not one of those crack addicts looking for a Jones'
Or something like that.......How is this guy still there? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------Hey Jonny----He is still there like Marion Barry keeps on getting elected in Washington DC !?!?!?!?--When you're in AZ go to Vincent's Restaurant---or Cafe Terra Cotta--Scottsdale. The town they named after me !!!!!!!! Scott/NYC
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Because dead people vote for him! nagin may just have cut his own throat this time around though. If the Federal government goes ahead and forces elections in New Orleans, it could be a death knell for some of the good ol' boys.
In the Times Picayune today
We've survived crazy politicians before
Wednesday, January 18, 2006
James Gill
Louisiana survived Earl Long's trip to the nuthouse, so maybe New Orleans can survive Mayor Ray Nagin's apparent descent into lunacy.
But Long managed to put his eccentric episodes behind him and remained a political force, going on to win a congressional election just before he died.
Nagin may not be so lucky. It will be hard to recover from his Martin Luther King Day tirade, because it was not just insane. It was stupid. The mayoralty is there for any credible candidate who wants it, because Nagin just threw away the white vote that got him into office in the first place.
The sooner we reschedule the election, the better, because we aren't going to accelerate the Katrina recovery so long as the whole world knows the man in charge down here not only chats with King but is also a confidant of the Almighty.
To judge from Nagin's account of their conversation, King's death seems to have robbed him of his celebrated eloquence. King could hardly get a word in edgewise, as Nagin droned on about the post-storm chaos in the Superdome, feuding black politicians, the white cops who barred refugees from crossing the river into Jefferson Parish and Sunday's second-line shootout. All King could say, whenever Nagin paused for breath, was he didn't like it, although he did perk up a little at the end and advise black folks to quit worrying about white racism and focus on themselves.
As luck would have it, that's exactly what Nagin thinks.
Whether Nagin actually has audiences with God is not clear. Probably not, because God appears to spend pretty much all of his time talking to the likes of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.
Nagin is certainly clued up on the subject of divine intention, however. He must have it right, for what he told us Monday gibes with earlier reports from the Bible thumpers.
Everyone familiar with God assures us that he is a very grumpy God indeed, sending calamities our way in punishment for our sins.
The problem with God's retribution, however, is that his aim isn't very good. God may very well be opposed to abortion, gay rights and the American Civil Liberties Union, but when Robertson and Falwell reported that 9/11 was the wages of those sins, it seemed a bit misdirected.
But God has not mellowed since, at least according to Nagin, who believes that the violent hurricane season was a sign of heavenly displeasure with American policy in Iraq and with "black America," which he wishes would take better care of itself.
I don't talk to God myself, but, if he reads The Times-Picayune, I ask that he reconsider his policies. If he is mad that WMD evidence was falsified, let him visit pestilence on Dick Cheney's hang-out in Wyoming or rain frogs on the presidential ranch in Texas. Flooding the 9th Ward just doesn't seem to get the point across. And if he is really displeased with black America, Old Metairie and Lakeview were most inappropriate targets.
God should know that because, according to Nagin, he has a lively interest in the demographics of New Orleans, which he has decreed shall be "majority African-American."
Nagin agrees with God. He maintains that this must be a "chocolate" city, and he doesn't care what "people are saying Uptown or wherever."
That hasn't gone down too well Uptown or wherever else white voters warmed to Nagin in his first campaign. Nagin did have a reasonable point to make -- that the city cannot flourish without an adequate work force and we all need black folks to return -- but he made it sound like racist-rabble rousing and a slur on white residents.
Nagin has come across as racist before, particularly in his slurs on "Mexicans" working here after the storm, but that did not amount to political suicide.
Whatever the racial composition of the city when the election does roll round, it is a given that it won't be as black as it used to be.
It is unlikely that Nagin is truly off his rocker or that he really resents the presence of white voters. But that's the impression he gave. Surely King could have advised him it was crazy to do so.
Here's the link to another article about Nagin-
http://www.ringsidepolitics.com/index.php?pageID=168
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Yep, I think he committed political suicide. Clearly he doesn't have a brain...and devine intervention is not his savior.
New Orleans is not good enough for his family. They live in Dallas.....good grief! At the present time, he and his family are not even residents of the City that he claims to be rebuilding. I wonder where his $$ is coming from? He can afford to fly back and forth between Dallas and N.O......but they claim the City is broke.
This entire situation is sickening enough as it is....he has made it worse.
He loves the spotlight....but he should remember that even though the levi breaks flooded his City, ( and that is disastrous), the hurricane hit Mississippi. Poor folks in Mississippi have taken a back seat. They're busy helping each other recover....while Nagin continues to add fuel to the fire.
Let the folks in N.O. recover....get busy getting the $$ that was earmarked for repairs and restructure...Nagin needs to shut his mouth and spend his energy getting the people of N.O. (whether black or white) what they need to return home.
Widespread damage....and very little is being done to fix it.
Nagin put his foot in his mouth.....he got shoe polish on his face. Such as 'tis.........
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You know, I had a friend of mine who lived in Lake Charles, LA and rode Rita out since he couldn't evacuate his wife. Everyone seems to forget that not JUST New Orleans, but the whole Louisiana Gulf Coast got hit. Lake Charles flooded and the damage was tremendous. Rayne was flooded. Grand Isle was nearly completely destroyed by katrina (if I'm not mistaken, several towns south of New Orleans, Buras for one, no longer even exist).
Those areas that haven't recieved all the media attention are chugging merrily along and rebuilding without all the hooha and bullshit generated by the media. Several of these towns have received NO help whatsoever, but , lo and behold are continuing to rebuild and, gasp, even get their people back.
Somebody needs to waste a bullet on nagin.
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