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« Reply #50 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 7:23am »
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Lance?
 
He's just a spotter for Jonny.
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« Reply #51 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 7:53am »
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Naaaaaah, its Lance....
 
 
He needs a new "work uniform"  Grin
 
 

 
 
 
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« Reply #52 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 8:27am »
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Um, I'll pass on the speedos. What's the opening bid on Pegg's cheese?  Grin
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« Reply #53 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 10:02am »
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following "protocol"   Roll Eyes  I posted this over at the OUCH website but felt it needed to be seen here as well.
 
"I am appalled!"
 
After reading that thread on ch.com that Don asked a simple question as to how proceeds from the auction would be spent, I have to say that I am completely appalled at the schoolyard behaviour that ensued.  
 
He raises a very good point for people that are not members and it was completely glossed over and missed.  He was directed to ask OUCH questions here and ONLY here.  If someone isn't an OUCH member, how CAN they ask questions and make their decision as to join?  There has to be some public relations and common courtesy extended in cooperation with ch.com.  Ch.com is the entry point for most clusterheads and that's where OUCH officials should start educating the new arrivals.
 
Drawing a line in the sand and saying "No.  I won't answer your question.  You didn't ask it in the right place" and then repeating that sentiment ad nauseum  has to be the most childish response I've seen yet.
 
Donna, thank you for finally answering Don's question and for your maturity in that thread.  Please understand that my complaint in that thread wasn't directed at you, personally.  I continue, however, to be frustrated with the veil of secrecy that has fallen over OUCH and I took it out on you.  My apologies to you, Donna.  I think you do consistently show the spirit that should drive OUCH.
 
Answering questions directly and treating past-presidents with a little respect is going to go a lot further to promote OUCH than treating them as if they are errant children.  Steve Lichens, Don Young and Bob Pahlow all brought their individual strengths to OUCH during their tenures and each one of them helped this organization get through the growing pains of the moment.  But now, all three are treated as if their IQ's diminished when they left office.  What's wrong with this picture?
 
Oh and I'm going to post this on ch.com as well, to show MY respect for past-president Young and in an effort to keep him in this elite loop of this secret society that OUCH U.S. has become.  
 
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Donna, what kind of research is the money being used for?  I'm asking this as an honest question with no ulterior motive.  As an officer and director of OUCH Canada myself, I'd really also like to know what research projects are out there and if we (OUCH Canada) can investigate similar programs in Canada.  (I'm posting this here on ch.com for those folks who haven't yet joined an OUCH.)
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« Reply #54 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 10:43am »
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Sounds like everyone needs a glyco-donut....
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« Reply #55 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 1:52pm »
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Donna, what kind of research is the money being used for?

It won't go to Goadsby.  When they decided to give some bucks to MAPS (at Dan's insistance) I figured they were going philanthropic on us so I suggested a like donation to Goadsby's research.  I was told there would be no more donations until they figured out what their financial situation was.
 
Ho-hum!
 
Maybe it will pay the BoD's way to the convention or something.
 
Heck, there are no Treasurer Reports for May thru October 2004 and none for 2005.  Maybe someone already took the money and ran.
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« Reply #56 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 2:09pm »
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Looks like the original simple question that took 43 posts to answer wasn't so out of line after all.
 
While I'm at it.  
 
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There are website fees and expenses for stationery/ phone bills etc surely?

 
The wesite is 3 years out of date
OUCH stationary is produced on a computer.
Got any calls from OUCH lately?
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« Reply #57 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 2:18pm »
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Got any calls from OUCH lately?

Yes.  I got one from a BoD member a few months back, asking me to be nice.  Guess it didn't work.
 
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The wesite is 3 years out of date

It's only a year and a half out of date.  I think they were talking about buying a new website.  I think they want a nice one for the important people to visit and the regular one for us members.
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Yes.  I got one from a BoD member a few months back, asking me to be nice.

 
Did the call come at 3 AM from an untracable pay phone on the outskirts of town?
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« Reply #59 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 2:36pm »
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on Apr 5th, 2005, 2:28pm, don wrote:

 
Did the call come at 3 AM from an untracable pay phone on the outskirts of town?

 
No, it came from a traceable, home phone. One that would be used to call you if you so desired.
 
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« Reply #60 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 2:40pm »
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Dude had a heck of a good ol' southern drawl going though.
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« Reply #61 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 3:10pm »
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Yes.  I got one from a BoD member a few months back, asking me to be nice.  

 
hmm, I got one of those emails today too, Bob.  Mine came with a disclaimer though that if I went public with it that everything would be denied.
 
so, shhh, ok?  don't tell anyone.  
 
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that if I went public with it that everything would be denied.

 
A statement like that could only come from 1 of 2 places.
 
OUCH or the National Communist Party
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« Reply #63 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 4:58pm »
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hmm, I got one of those emails today too, Bob.  Mine came with a disclaimer though that if I went public with it that everything would be denied.
 
so, shhh, ok?  don't tell anyone.  
 

 
Nothing like a falsehood to stir the masses huh?
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« Reply #64 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 5:01pm »
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You calling me a liar, Bill?  Haven't you done enough good for one day?
 
verbatim text from the email:  
 
"If you call me out in a public forum in order to try and embarrass me or the ORG, I will not respond."
 
still wanna call me a liar, Bill?   Angry
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« Reply #65 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 5:06pm »
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You calling me a liar, Bill?  Haven't you done enough good for one day?
 
verbatim text from the email:  
 
"If you call me out in a public forum in order to try and embarrass me or the ORG, I will not respond."
 
still wanna call me a liar, Bill?   Angry

 
The context of that statement was that I would discuss anything with anyone , BUT If you call me out in a public forum in order to try and embarrass me or the ORG, I will not respond.  
 
A large difference from the way you presented it here. If your soul purpose is to embarrass or discredit, there will be no response. You wish to discuss, I'll discuss. I will not be flogged in public.  
 
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« Reply #66 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 5:08pm »
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hmm, I got one of those emails today too, Bob.  Mine came with a disclaimer though that if I went public with it that everything would be denied.

 
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If those statements mean the same thing, I'd better go back and return my grades in college because I never should have passed Advanced Literary Interpretation.
 
 
 
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I will not be flogged in public.  
 
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Neither will I, Bill.  But you apparently seem to be doing a good enough job of flogging yourself anyway.  Since you and Redd are so interested in semantics today, you'll note that I never mentioned WHO the email was from.  
 
Pardon me all to hell for using the words 'will be denied'.  Redd, you're absolutely right - the CORRECT words were "i will not respond".  Yeah, you're right.  The words ARE different.  But at the end of the day, the results are the same.  Mission accomplished.  Yet another OUCH founder threw in the towel today.  One by one, the ousting continues.....wonder who'll be next?
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Seems to me the only people getting flogged were members or potential members and that was done by the OUCH imperialist party.
 
User friendly OUCH. Unless you ask one of the secret questions.
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« Reply #69 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 5:28pm »
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Hey Don,
 
I combed the Business Board and what financial reports are to found and these are the expenses I could find:
 
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Justin Ott's CH Documentary-  A Motion was made and seconded to donate a sum of $500.00 to Justin Ott for his cluster headache documentary.  
 
We further wish to assist by donating one thousand dollars [$1,000.00] to MAPS specifically for this study.
 
Dan Bemowski Grant Gate software $795.00

 
That's all the big spending that is there for us to see.
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So much for the web site maintainance, postage and phone calls theory.
 
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Cant predict who but it will be someone who remembers when OUCH had integrity.
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« Reply #71 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 5:52pm »
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Funny part is, it's people who aren't even legally elected to the BoD.  The Bylaws say the new BoD members shall be elected by the membership.  No election was ever held.  The BoD voted these people onto the BoD as if they were filling vacated positions instead of newly created positions.
 
Bylaws:
   a) Up to fifteen Board of Director members including officers shall be elected by the voting members of the Organization.
   b) The membership shall be responsible for nominating a slate of member representatives in good standing.  
 
 
 
I pointed this out to them on the OUCH Business Board but got the old, you're nobody, we'll ignore you type of non-response.
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« Reply #72 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 6:28pm »
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Ignore the by Laws.
Ignore the members.
 
Maybe ignore IRS regulations regarding public financial records for a 501(c)3?
 
Ignore resource experiance.
 
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« Reply #73 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 6:33pm »
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Well when you consider that there has never been, since it's inception, complience with regard to fiscal and other obligations, I guess this new Governing Body has more clean up work to do than we first bargained for.  Don't blame us for past failures.  We are left with the job of mopping up YOUR messes.
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« Reply #74 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 6:37pm »
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We are left with the job of mopping up YOUR messes.

 
I know you are, but what am I?  Neener, neener.
 
Ya just gotta laugh!  It's easy to shift blame now that all the records are hidden away.  I can still look at the Treasurer's reports and it appears they are 100% up until, hmmmmm, a year ago.
 
At least previous leadership wasn't afraid to let the members see what was going on and, yes, even participate some!
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