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Accupuncture and yoga?
« on: Jan 11th, 2006, 6:16pm »
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Saw another neuro yesterday at the VA-there's no consistency there on who you see-this guy prescribed accupuncure and naprosyn-the resident added yoga.  Now, I've got nothing against alternative or non-western meds, but it looks like accupuncture didn't do well on the medication survey.  Any input on that, naprosyn or yoga?  
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Re: Accupuncture and yoga?
« Reply #1 on: Jan 11th, 2006, 6:26pm »
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on Jan 11th, 2006, 6:16pm, kcopelin wrote:
 Any input on that, naprosyn or yoga?  

 
No results, no results, my body won't "do" yoga.  Wink
Maybe if you add some kudzu or seeds?
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 11th, 2006, 8:06pm »
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ANY neuro who prescribes Naprosyn (an anti-inflammatory) and accupuncture for clusters is totally and completely either a quack, or totally out of his league in terms of stupidity.
 
I'm with Nani.  If you have to go the alternative route, do it with the things that just might work!
 
YOGA????!!!
 
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Re: Accupuncture and yoga?
« Reply #3 on: Jan 11th, 2006, 8:56pm »
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I,m sure we all learn to meditate to stay focused during a CH hit. It seams if you learned Yoga, it would at least help distract you until the pain wears off. I don't think I could do all that leg bending over you head stuff.  laugh  I do my own accupuncture during a cycle. It's called lots and lots of Trex.  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 11th, 2006, 9:17pm »
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Saw another neuro yesterday at the VA-there's no consistency there on who you see-this guy prescribed accupuncure and naprosyn-the resident added yoga

 
Are you sure you didn't mistakenly wander into the psche ward where they play Doctor?
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 11th, 2006, 9:22pm »
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Thank y'all so much for your responses...you have all verified my thoughts on the matter.  I did try some yoga neck exercises this afternoon-no legs behind head stuff...it triggered a friggin' headache.  I am a little pissed off right now.... sorry for venting so much but thank you for listening.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 11th, 2006, 9:30pm »
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Yeah well. Chalk that one up.
 
It would suck doing Yoga with all those needles stickin in ya anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 11th, 2006, 10:35pm »
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In terms of immediate medical treatment, not good advice.  Meditation can increase melatonin levels and might have some preventive value, but it is something that episodics should pick up when they are out of cycle.  Acupuncture has been shown to raise endorphin levels (which are low in clusterheads) but it hasn't been shown to reduce the number or intensity of hits.  
 
http://www.med-owl.com/clusterheadaches/tiki-index.php?page=Meditation
http://www.med-owl.com/clusterheadaches/tiki-index.php?page=Acupuncture
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Re: Accupuncture and yoga?
« Reply #8 on: Jan 12th, 2006, 8:49am »
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Practising yoga regularly didn't prevent me from getting ch in the first place. I do yoga occasionally, but pilates regularly. Smiley
 
 
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Re: Accupuncture and yoga?
« Reply #9 on: Jan 12th, 2006, 9:29am »
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While it will never be high on the list of things I want to try for clusters, acupuncture has actually been shown effective in treating some of the symptoms of MS and Fibromyalgia, which several clusterheads here on this board report having.
 
http://www.mstrust.org.uk/publications/opendoor/0008_11_12.jsp
 
http://www.umm.edu/ms/heads_up.html
 
http://www.arthritis.org/resources/arthritistoday/2000_archives/2000_05_ 06_acupuncture.asp
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed &list_uids=10086765&dopt=Abstract
 
Edited to add one more from the Mayo Clinic.
 
http://www.mayoclinic.org/news2005-rst/3000.html
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Re: Accupuncture and yoga?
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on Jan 12th, 2006, 8:49am, sandie99 wrote:
Practising yoga regularly didn't prevent me from getting ch in the first place.  
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Ditto.  
 
But yoga can be a good thing even if it doesn't help ch.  If practiced regularly, one can have an overall improved sense of well being.  It can help reduce stress which is an issue with many ch'ers.  There are many forms of yoga and just about anybody can perform some aspect of it.  It can be modified for overweight people or those with physical limitations.  I'm not trying to sell it.  Just saying it's not outrageous to consider incorporating it into a healthy way of living.
 
Of course if my neuro had suggested it as the only form of treatment, I would have probably decked him.
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Re: Accupuncture and yoga?
« Reply #11 on: Jan 12th, 2006, 2:49pm »
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I think the dr is a quack!  I would be looking for a different neuro who specializes in ha.  Or if your stuck with the same dr do what he says and then tell them it didn't work because my gut tells me it won't work.  I tried biofeedback and accupuncture and neither did a thing for me.  But it made the dr happy and we moved on to some other things to try that were more likely to be effective like verapamil 960mg, lithium900mg, topamax900mg, neurontin, oxygen(10-15lpm), imitrix,etc.  Good luck.
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Re: Accupuncture and yoga?
« Reply #12 on: Jan 12th, 2006, 3:27pm »
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i'm all for alternatives. hell I'm a damn cheerleader for alternatives.
and, at one point, i thought i could meditate my way out of my CH.  
then reality hit.
 
i do practice yoga, but not for cluster headaches.
 
get some O2
get some Kudzu
and as a back-up get some imitrex
 
then enjoy yoga for what it is really for.
 
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Re: Accupuncture and yoga?
« Reply #13 on: Jan 12th, 2006, 6:50pm »
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Already on verapamil, melatonin at night, have O2...been down the long road of meds folks (literally everything except topamax) tried HBWR seeds-nada.  The only reason for this visit was to change staus of diagnosis from episodic to chronic which sucks enough.  But what I got instead!!!! I have ordered kudzu, and am considering clusterbuster methods.  I am not considering yoga-relaxation triggers these headaches-and have tried meditation and biofeedback in the past-sure fire fire trigger.  Thanks for all your feedback.
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