Yet Another Bulletin Board

Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register.
Nov 16th, 2019, 4:30pm

Home Home Help Help Search Search Members Members Member Map Member Map Login Login Register Register
Clusterheadaches.com Message Board « How long to wait for relief? »


   Clusterheadaches.com Message Board
   New Message Board Archives
   Medications, Treatments, Therapies 2005
(Moderator: DJ)
   How long to wait for relief?
« Previous topic | Next topic »
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print
   Author  Topic: How long to wait for relief?  (Read 627 times)
findjoshua
New Board Junior
USA 
**





    findjoshua
Email

Gender: male
Posts: 60
How long to wait for relief?
« on: Nov 28th, 2005, 11:02am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Hello.  I have posted before re the meds I take for my clusters, which currently are Maxalt-MLT and Immitrex nasal spray.  I have an appt. with my doc to get some oxygen and also discuss other meds which I read about on this site.  Although I've gotten clusters for years it seems I have neglected to realize that 5 minutes in a headache seems like 30 minutes.  So I tend to take the trex or the maxalt initially when I feel it and freak out and just take another dose like 10 or 15 minutes later when the pain feels like it's just getting worse and worse.  It's only since I've started chatting on this site that I've been looking at the clock when I feel the pain coming and keeping tabs of how long it lasts etc.  Bottom line is I'm curious what other people's experiences are with how long immitrex and/or maxalt take to work for them.  So far, the nasal spray is my best bet.  I'm hoping oxygen works too when I get it.  Hope this post makes sense.  
.
Joshua
IP Logged
nani
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****




Got kudzu?

   
WWW

Gender: female
Posts: 7953
Re: How long to wait for relief?
« Reply #1 on: Nov 28th, 2005, 11:26am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

I can't use triptans anymore, but I think 10 - 15 mins later is too soon. You shouldn't use both within 24 hours either. Triptans are vaso-constrictors, and you don't want to constrict too much...it could be dangerous. Have you tried oxygen? You could always hit it first, and follow with the nasal spray if needed.
JMHO
pf wishes, nani
IP Logged

Others may come and go, but MY power is MINE.
zanychef
New Board Newbie
England 
*



i'm busting with a masx cant really go wrong can i

   


Gender: male
Posts: 46
Re: How long to wait for relief?
« Reply #2 on: Nov 28th, 2005, 11:46am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

it should be at LEAST one hour between doses of triptans!
i know when i used 'trex it would make the HA worse for a little while (i liken it to the veins constricting all over the body first and in the head last) i dont know how quick the maxalt is but think it is slower acting than trex so maybe leaving it that little bit longer (hard as this maybe) to allow for it to work properly??
just my HO  
Ian
IP Logged

plenty of time to sleep now me headaches aint too badSmiley
Margi
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
Canada 
*****




Nuthin like a good neck rub!

   
Email

Gender: female
Posts: 3757
Re: How long to wait for relief?
« Reply #3 on: Nov 28th, 2005, 12:03pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Shocked
 
Your doctor should be SHOT for allowing you to mix triptans at ALL!!   Angry
 
It's VERY dangerous to mix triptans, especially that close together like you are doing.  We have a member here who suffered a heart attack from doing what you're doing!  PLEASE BE CAREFUL!  
 
As well, repeated use of Imitrex has been known to increase frequency of attacks - my husband sure noticed it.  I sure hope you can get some oxygen and get it quickly - it is a very effective abortive.
 
I'm sorry to hear that you're having a rough time, and I do understand your desparation in trying to stop your pain.  I'm just trying to let you know that you could be causing yourself MORE pain with the way you're using the triptan meds.  I also remember a case of someone using imitrex repeatedly and they ended up in ER because of excruiciating abdominal pain.  Sad  It's a constrictor.  It totally shut down his stomach and he very nearly died.
 
Until you can get the oxygen, try ice bags, frozen peas, anything cold....also drinking ice water can help.
 
IP Logged

http://askusaboutourgrandkids.photosite.com/

And, on the Eighth Day...God created Beer (to stop the Canadians from taking over the world)
source unknown

IMHO (which in my universe is correct)
kathy copelin, ch.com 8/8/06
Mr. Happy
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****




If I can do it, it ain't art.

6108764393 6108764393   Randy   Piscatorus
WWW Email

Gender: male
Posts: 2217
Re: How long to wait for relief?
« Reply #4 on: Nov 28th, 2005, 12:34pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Josh, you shouldn't be waiting for a triptan to kick in. You SHOULD take the triptan of choice, then IMMEDIATELY get on O2. The triptan can take it's good old time kicking in, while you beat the CH into submission with canned air in a few minutes.
 
Order a Clustermasx today, no questions asked. Just do it. If the doc won't give you a script for O2, call a local commercial gas supplier and rent O2 tanks from them. Don't wait on a doc or anyone else. Never tell the wleding people you're inhaling the O2.......you can always play stupid and tell them you're going to learn how to use a cutting torch for an art class......you don't know WHAT it's all about, just that you need to supply your own oxygen with a standard 540 connection.
 
Order that Clustermasx immediately, and then get thee to the oxygenery. If you need a regulator, I've got a box full and can have one in the mail the next day for under $20 in most cases. You'll be huffing happily in no time.
 
Breaks over. Get to work, man.
RJ
 
IP Logged

May those who don't want any
Have memories of never getting any.
findjoshua
New Board Junior
USA 
**





    findjoshua
Email

Gender: male
Posts: 60
Re: How long to wait for relief?
« Reply #5 on: Nov 28th, 2005, 2:53pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Thanks.  Am def. getting o2 asap.  My doctor didn't recommend I mix, I just happend to have both prescriptions from different periods of my cycle.  I use only one in a 24 hour period (one type that is.)
.
Either way, I'm not waiting long enough before I take 2nd dose, that's pretty clear.  Thanks for all the advice, seems like o2 is my next great hope Smiley  
.
Re the cold, it's weird, sometimes cold, sometimes hot helps.  The only thing that seems 100% is that I'll get the headaches, the rest is all degrees of maybe.
.
Joshua
IP Logged
unsolved1
Guest

Email

Re: How long to wait for relief?
« Reply #6 on: Nov 28th, 2005, 3:12pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify Remove Remove

Imitrx injections take about 7-15 minutes to work for me.
 
UNsolved
IP Logged
BlueMeanie
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****






   
WWW

Gender: male
Posts: 1178
Re: How long to wait for relief?
« Reply #7 on: Nov 28th, 2005, 11:46pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

I use the Trex shots. (They work way faster).  I found that if I take them too soon, sometimes it doesn't work and I have to go back for more.  Sad
 
The best way for me is to have the shot out and ready to go. Wait until the CH ramps to 5-6 KIP scale range, then jab. It usually will kill the CH in about 10 minutes or so. You're right though, it seems like 1/2 hour or more.
 
IP Logged
Kevin_M
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****



withered branches grow green again.

   


Gender: male
Posts: 6184
Re: How long to wait for relief?
« Reply #8 on: Nov 29th, 2005, 12:13am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

on Nov 28th, 2005, 11:02am, findjoshua wrote:
the meds I take for my clusters, which currently are Maxalt-MLT and Immitrex nasal spray.  
 
So I tend to take the trex or the maxalt initially when I feel it and freak out and just take another dose like 10 or 15 minutes later when the pain feels like it's just getting worse and worse.  
 
I'm curious what other people's experiences are with how long immitrex and/or maxalt take to work for them.  So far, the nasal spray is my best bet.  I'm hoping oxygen works too when I get it.  

 
With the nasal sprays, catching it early is important.  Waking with it already going, the wait for a n/s can be long in catching up, ice packs, and several are required while it does get worse.  Catching it too late with a nasal spray has gone 40 minutes for me but at the time, the only hope.  Daytime hits caught early can go 15-20 minutes.  Those nights are over, I got the O2 and the Clustermasx.  It backs it down much faster.  
  Until then, with the n/s - ice packs kinda helped for me, it was something.
 
 
« Last Edit: Nov 29th, 2005, 12:15am by Kevin_M » IP Logged
chewy
Guest

Email

Re: How long to wait for relief?
« Reply #9 on: Nov 29th, 2005, 6:51am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify Remove Remove

Imitrex injection at onset. 3-5 minutes.
IP Logged
TxBasslady
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****




Bass fishin' is a h00t  It's the catchin' that sux

   
Email

Gender: female
Posts: 3201
Re: How long to wait for relief?
« Reply #10 on: Nov 29th, 2005, 2:00pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Print out the information on the 02, and take it when you see your doc, if you think it would help to insure his approval.
 
Pay close attention to the flow rate needed in order for the 02 to work successfully.   If I recall, it's between 12 to 15 lpm.   Anything less may not do the trick.   This is important if you are depending on a Rx from your doc.  He/she needs to stipulate the flow rate.    
 
Randy is definitely the go-to person for the regulators, if your doc is not willing.    Ben's clustermasx appears to be the ultimate, so by all means, click on that link in Randy's post.
 
Good luck with your doc visit.....let us know how things turn out.    
 
Jean
 
 
 
 
 
 
IP Logged

How lucky I am... to have known someone who was so hard to say goodbye too.

Take a kid fishin
www.takemefishin.org

I adopted a Vietnam POW/MIA from El Paso, Texas!
findjoshua
New Board Junior
USA 
**





    findjoshua
Email

Gender: male
Posts: 60
Re: How long to wait for relief?
« Reply #11 on: Nov 30th, 2005, 8:29pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Hi all.  I did get the 02 (high flow) and I got Verapamil too.  I posted elsewhere in this group tonight about insurance and o2 and what others' experience has been with that.  I'm pretty confident I will be able to get it covered though.
 
Thanks for all the advice everyone!  More to come as it happens Smiley
IP Logged
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print

« Previous topic | Next topic »


Clusterheadaches.com Message Board » Powered by YaBB 1 Gold - SP 1.3.1!
YaBB © 2000-2003. All Rights Reserved.


©1998-2010 Web Vision Enterprises All rights reserved. All information on this site is protected by international copyright laws. You may not re-distribute any information from this site without written permission from Web Vision Enterprises and the webmaster of this site. Violators will be prosecuted.
You may view our privacy policy and financial disclosure statement here

test rss