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Reply #1 - Jun 6^th, 2008 at 9:08am

I saw this on the news this morning...............it broke my heart.

I work with children everyday and see first hand that empathy and compassion must be nurtured and sometimes even taught. Otherwise we end up a society that lets a 78 year old man bleed in the street after being hit by a car, alone and scared and injured. Where was someone that could have just touched his hand to say that someone is here or that help is on the way? I heard his son say, "you'd help even a dog wouldn't you." Cry

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Reply #2 - Jun 6^th, 2008 at 9:21am

I'm not certain that this says something about us as human beings. Indifference and callousness exists, of course, but I don't think it's the norm.

Although it was handled badly, the article goes on to say that four people called 911 within one minute of the incident. Granted, someone should at least have been diverting traffic and making some effort to assist directly. I think a great many people have never had any training--or indeed, have never thought about how to react in an emergency. They simply have no idea what to do. And so they do nothing. A couple of days training in first aid or CPR by one or more of the bystanders here could easily have changed the whole scenario. I think it behooves all of us to do so.

For every one of these types of incidents, there are a hundred like this:

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Not defending what people did or did not do in this video--simply trying to understand it.

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Reply #3 - Jun 6^th, 2008 at 4:07pm

It's called the "Bystander Effect" The liklihood of someone helping an "in need" individual decreases as the number of onlookers or bystanders increases. Everyone will gawk and wonder why no one is helping the individual.

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We are taught as emergency responders that you cannot just yell for someone to "Call 911". If we did that everyone would turn and look at each other expecting someone else to do it. We have to either point at or yell..."YOU in the Blue Shirt. Call 911"

So if you're ever in need of assistance make sure there are only 1 or 2 people around when you need it.

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aprilbee CH.com Alumnus Offline Ain't I a stinkah!! Posts: 1507 Warr Acres, Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Is this what people are becoming? Reply #4 - Jun 6^th, 2008 at 5:19pm That video is shocking...I'm giong to leave it at that...it makes me very sad.
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Giovanni CH.com Hall of Famer Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 808 x1\|Cary\|USA\|usa\|472\|185\|NC,North_Carolina Gender:	Re: Is this what people are becoming? Reply #5 - Jun 6^th, 2008 at 8:13pm That was very disturbing to me. What the hell are people coming too? I saw one worse than that a couple years ago in Israel where a dead motorcyclist lay in the streets for HOURS. Cars, buses, other motorcycle were just riding around him as if he were a piece of garbage. disgusted John
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Reply #6 - Jun 6^th, 2008 at 8:20pm

Sadly, this is not new but I wonder just how common it is thoughout history.

We don't hear of this happening 100 years ago but then no one was there to report it because it's a great story for TV. My feeling is that more people would assist though and part of it lies with what people have to put up with now. You'll probably get grilled by the police and have to fill out a lot of forms. Insurance companies will no doubt waste your time if they can. Things are different.

I tell myself that older guys like me do would do better but I can't be sure.

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Reply #7 - Jun 6^th, 2008 at 8:28pm

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Where was someone that could have just touched his hand to say that someone is here

EXACTLY Jean. Where were they?

From what I understand of the news story it was in a very bad neighborhood that has a mind-set of don't get involved. How sad and pathetic that someone couldn't have held his hand, to let him know before he died that someone cared.

As George pointed out, please learn CPR and basic first aid. I have, and I am certified through the Red Cross. And no, this is not a public service message.

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Reply #8 - Jun 6^th, 2008 at 9:14pm

I am also CPR certified, Linda. Isn't it sad though that now days people are afraid to administer CPR for fear of being sued? I guess that's part of why people don't get involved.

A few years ago I was in a restaurant when bus boy fell to the floor and began seizing. I got up from my table and got down on the floor with him. I made sure that his head was protected and that someone called 911. When he came out of the seizure I waited with him till the EMTs arrived and spoke to them about how long the seizure lasted, ect. After it was all over the restaurant owner came over and made such a big deal that I had helped. It wasn't at all though. I just did what I thought any human with any compassion would do. After hearing this story I guess I was wrong.

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Linda_Howell CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Do not feed the Moderators Posts: 11927 Santa Maria, Ca. Gender:	Re: Is this what people are becoming? Reply #9 - Jun 6^th, 2008 at 9:38pm NO...you are not Jean. You are not wrong at all. And if trying to save a life gets someone in trouble then knowing they tried lets us sleep at night.
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