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Re: Some shadowy questions.
Reply #25 - Jul 23^rd, 2008 at 10:47pm

I have been pf for 3 months but with shadows almost daily, SOmetimes more strong than others Sometimes feels right on the verge of a hit. But I do not do anything except silently curse the beast. I have imitrex with me always just in case. I have a shadow now as a matter of fact. They suck but its no CH. Lets hope they go away

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Re: Some shadowy questions.
Reply #26 - Jul 24^th, 2008 at 1:58am

gizmo wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 1:18pm:

Energy drinks work for me pretty good in knocking down the shadows.

Ditto - a can of Rockstar is my cure for shadows.

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Re: Some shadowy questions.
Reply #27 - Jul 26^th, 2008 at 6:47am

Maalstroom,

I have this exact same problem and I have a theory… Could this be a side effect of the Verapamil?

I went on Verapamil around 18 months ago and at one point my Zomig usage went down considerably. At that point I noticed this constant or near constant shadow and I didn’t want to go off of the Verap. We were playing with the word chronic and just a couple of weeks ago the Beast returned (for real) so I’m starting to think my shadow wasn’t a CH shadow, but a secondary headache caused by the Verapamil which can cause a chronic headache.

I hear you… I’ve been waiting for the shadows to leave before ramping off the Verap, but it never happened. I’m really starting to think it’s the verap. Wadda you think?

If I wasn’t in an episode I’d ramp off the Verap to see for sure although when I finally do I’ll report back.

PF wishes to all my friends here!

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Re: Some shadowy questions.
Reply #28 - Jul 26^th, 2008 at 8:20am

Don't know why you'd be hesitent to use O2. It won't hurt you and most of the time will alleviate shadows. go ahead and use it for pete's sake... No need to suffer if you don't have to.

Melatonin at night (12-15 mg) will (most of the time) stop the night hits and let you get the rest you need).

Me, I can drink a POT of coffee right before bedtime and go right to sleep, but if you can't you can't.... Red Bull tastes like mildew (someone came up with that and it pretty well describes it) but there are several other energy drinks out there that don't taste as bad -- read the labels and look at the caffeine and taurine contents.. be sure there's at least 1000mg of taurine in them. Right now I'm using Chic (50cents a can and it has 1500mg of taurine - works for me)

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Re: Some shadowy questions.
Reply #30 - Jul 27^th, 2008 at 12:54pm

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AussieBrian wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 9:50am:

I had a lot of luck with Panadol washed down with a cup of serious coffee. Not sure of it's name in other countries but I'm assured it's commonly available.

Others may know it as acetominophen, or Tylenol.

Thanks for that, Brew, and any word on overseas names for the panadol/codiene mix? Back when I could still handle the stuff I found it dinkum effective, but only in combination with that magic ingredient - serious coffee!

Meant half the quantity worked twice as fast and that can't be a bad thing.

Now here's a thought. Given the 24hr pressure that some shadows/hangover-hits/after-burn can inflict, would a 'Tylanol patch" help or hurt?

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Re: Some shadowy questions.
Reply #31 - Jul 27^th, 2008 at 1:39pm

AussieBrian wrote on Jul 27^th, 2008 at 12:54pm:

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AussieBrian wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 9:50am:

I had a lot of luck with Panadol washed down with a cup of serious coffee. Not sure of it's name in other countries but I'm assured it's commonly available.

Others may know it as acetominophen, or Tylenol.

Thanks for that, Brew, and any word on overseas names for the panadol/codiene mix? Back when I could still handle the stuff I found it dinkum effective, but only in combination with that magic ingredient - serious coffee!

I'm not a big fan of Codine but here is a link to covering the various formulations of Codine and Acetominophen available here in the States. All of this stuff is by perscription only.

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Re: Some shadowy questions.
Reply #32 - Jul 29^th, 2008 at 7:48am

BarbaraD wrote on Jul 26^th, 2008 at 8:20am:

Don't know why you'd be hesitent to use O2. It won't hurt you and most of the time will alleviate shadows. go ahead and use it for pete's sake... No need to suffer if you don't have to.

Thanx for the advice, Barbara, I took it to heart and have used the o2 for 'em. It did help. I was hesitant, for this was my first cycle using the Oxygen, and not knowing if it would make things worse or better. That's why I asked you guys and dolls.

Red Bull tastes like mildew (someone came up with that and it pretty well describes it) but there are several other energy drinks out there that don't taste as bad -- read the labels and look at the caffeine and taurine contents.. be sure there's at least 1000mg of taurine in them. Right now I'm using Chic (50cents a can and it has 1500mg of taurine - works for me)

Hugs BD

Like I said, I hate the taste of 'em, and would never drink it except while in cycle.
I used a Red Bull rip off with a very sweet flavoured chemical which was horrible, and the only reason I did not throw them up while chugging it down, is that it DID help with the lesser hits.

Hope you'll be painfree soon, Barb.

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Re: Some shadowy questions.
Reply #33 - Jul 29^th, 2008 at 8:08am

CH Ron wrote on Jul 26^th, 2008 at 6:47am:

Maalstroom,

I have this exact same problem and I have a theory… Could this be a side effect of the Verapamil?

I went on Verapamil around 18 months ago and at one point my Zomig usage went down considerably. At that point I noticed this constant or near constant shadow and I didn’t want to go off of the Verap. We were playing with the word chronic and just a couple of weeks ago the Beast returned (for real) so I’m starting to think my shadow wasn’t a CH shadow, but a secondary headache caused by the Verapamil which can cause a chronic headache.

I hear you… I’ve been waiting for the shadows to leave before ramping off the Verap, but it never happened. I’m really starting to think it’s the verap. Wadda you think?

If I wasn’t in an episode I’d ramp off the Verap to see for sure although when I finally do I’ll report back.

PF wishes to all my friends here!

Ron

Being that I'm one of them, I can assure you that many of the folks here who get shadows do not use verapamil.

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Re: Some shadowy questions.
Reply #34 - Jul 29^th, 2008 at 9:42am

kevmd wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2008 at 10:47pm:

I have been pf for 3 months but with shadows almost daily, SOmetimes more strong than others Sometimes feels right on the verge of a hit. But I do not do anything except silently curse the beast. I have imitrex with me always just in case. I have a shadow now as a matter of fact. They suck but its no CH. Lets hope they go away

i've been out of cycle for 7 months and i still get shadows.

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