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Newly diagnosed, and depressed
Nov 26th, 2008 at 2:20pm
 
Hello all...thank you for your kind responses to my quick post about depression.  Let me introduce myself.
I am 32, have a 5 year old boy, live with my fiance and I had just started going back to school after a 10 year absence...got diagnosed with severe ADHD this summer, and started meds for the first time- now I was blazing awesome and top of my classes!  And then the beast hit.

It started low, you know, so I thought I was having sinus allergy stuff...or the barometric pressure headaches me and my sisters get, or a stress migraine...then a few weeks later I get the stomach flu- so a few weeks go by before I start to realize something is wrong...by this time, my doc has tried everything, and she introduces me to my new best friend- cluster headaches.  I had never heard of them before, and I wish I never had.

Now it's too late to drop classes and I'm going full time.  AND, between peaks, I'm still having migraine symptoms- nausea, light and sound sensitivity, etc.  This happened once before (that I am aware of) about three years ago, and yup, it lasted about 6 months then, too. Had every test done they could think of, but no one EVER mentioned CH.  They just said it was stress!   Tongue

So I'll tell ya, we've tried everything- even oxygen (helped for five minutes, got the beast to let go of my eyeball, but the pain came right back.)  Nothing helped.  But I started the clusterbusters treatment, and it seems to be working wonderfully...except I found out that when you are trying to abort an ongoing cycle, you HAVE to repeat the process again every five days at LEAST three times;  I tried it, and was PF for two glorious weeks- but it came back with a vengeance.  So I found out that I was supposed to dose two more times to really "reboot" my hypothalamus...so, here I am again- I tried the RC seeds this time, and had no ill side-effects, and the cluster AND the migraines were completely gone for four days- but now I'm getting shadows, so I'm going to dose again tonight.

It's been about 6 months of torture.  my body is worn out.  my soul is worn out.  I feel like a wrung-out dishrag.  There is absolutely no joy in my life.  Yes, I see a therapist- he is wonderful- and he's helping me get through this...but even he admits that this is just so much more than anyone should have to go through!!  Cry

And I am sooooo behind in my schoolwork...my brain is just mush...but I already find comfort here with you guys, who know what it's like- because you just can't explain it to someone who hasn't been there.  Even my sisters, who have chronic migraines, just don't get it.  They say "you need to get rid of the stress in your life."  Oh, so, I should what- quit school and give my kid up for adoption?!?  Or, "can't you just get some strong painkillers and go lie down?"   Sheesh. They didn't believe me three years ago, either- at least this time I have a real diagnosis I can show them.

I'll tell you this, though- the only meds that have made any kind of a dent in it is Adderall (dextroamphetamine.)  I was on 70mg Vyvanse, a time release amphetamine, but I am highly drug tolerant and it was wearing off in 3 hours instead of 12, so they switched me to 20mg of the dextro to take several times a day.  Well, i noticed that the only time I felt better was in the mornings when my meds have the highest effect (you get a temporary tolerance to it, so the third dose of 20mg acts half as strong as the first dose that day.)  So I said wtf! and started taking 40mg every three hours...and it really did take a bite outta the beast.  And when I added on some Dramamine (non-drowsy formula,)  I could cut some of the nausea too, and make it through the day (relatively) better.

I've also been on Zoloft for anxiety (related to my ADD) but I had to cut that out for the clusterbuster treatment, because SSRI's will totally negate the effects of any other seratonin receptor antagonists, which explains why I was the only person at the party NOT "having fun" last year, wink wink...I was like, did I get all the duds?? Shocked

Anyhoo, thanks for letting me rant...I'm glad to have company here in purgatory, harhar...  I'm trying to keep my spirits up, but I'm just so WORN OUT...mostly I just NEED to be LISTENED to, ya know?!?  I just need to be understood.  And believed.  thank you for that.
-Paige
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Re: Newly diagnosed, and depressed
Reply #1 - Nov 26th, 2008 at 3:04pm
 
Hiya Paige.  I'm a supporter of 18 years, not a clusterhead.  I know all about listening.

Someone will come along with good advice and excellent tips.  I just stopped by to say I hear you, I know what you're going through, and I understand.

We're here for you when you need us.

Keep up the good fight.
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Re: Newly diagnosed, and depressed
Reply #2 - Nov 26th, 2008 at 4:13pm
 
Hello Paige,
     Sorry to hear you are going through this.

Have you tried Prednisone and Verapamil yet?  Search the threads for info on these.  Seems to work for many of us.

Also check out the info on oxygen.  You may not be using it correctly.  I had that problem several years ago and just recently got educated by the fine folks here.  It works for me now.  In a nutshell, you must have a non-rebreather mask at 15LPM flow rate.

                                 Best of Luck To You
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Reply #3 - Nov 27th, 2008 at 8:00am
 
Your message conveys a certain scattershot approach to the meds you have tried. I wonder if you are seeing a headache specialist?

There are squences and dosing of standard meds which work well but it does require working with a doc who is well versed in treating complex headache disorders. If you are open to such a move:

LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Search the OUCH site (button on left) for a list of recommended M.D.s.

2. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

3.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register; On-line screen to find a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box.  Call 1-800-643-5552; they will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.




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Reply #4 - Nov 27th, 2008 at 2:11pm
 
Wotcha Radar,

Welcome to the site (I'm a n00b myself). Thanks for sharing with us your experiences.

In the short space of time that I have been a member of this board (like all of 2 days now) I have come to realise what an amazing set of compassionate, funny and (not the least) intelligent people populate these boards. There will *always* be someone here to listen to you and share your pain.

Take care bud,

Ade.
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Reply #5 - Nov 28th, 2008 at 6:44am
 
Welcome to our little family, Radar, sorry you had to though.

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Reply #6 - Nov 28th, 2008 at 7:47pm
 
Hiya Paige and welcome to the madhouse but I'm sorry it's because you are dealing with this horror. You're getting good advice from these people. They know what they're doing.

Here is a technique that worked well for me. I hope you give it a try:

                                         Dr. Wright’s Circulatory Technique:

I am not sure what mechanism is triggered by this but whatever it is, at least indirectly helps kill the pain. I do know that this technique has nothing to do with meditation, relaxation, or psychic ability. It is entirely physical and takes some work. It involves concentrating on trying to redirect a little circulation to the arms, hands, or legs. Think of feeling your pulse in your hand. Increased circulation will result in a reddening and warming of the hands. The important and difficult part is that it has to be done without interruption through the pain. Do not give up in frustration. It may not work on the first try. Try experimenting between attacks. You will find that it gets easier with practice. Every now and then it will work almost immediately. I lived for those moments.

I was given less than five minutes instruction in the use of method. The doctor, while placing his arm on his desk, showed me that he could slightly increase his arm and hand circulation. After several attempts, I was able to repeat this procedure and use it successfully. I have had about a 75% success rate shortening these attacks. My 20 minute attacks were often reduced to 10 minutes or less. Once proven that I had a chance to effectively deal with this horror, I always gave it a try as I had nothing to lose but pain.

I used to try to imagine I was pushing blood away from my neck into my arm. Use your imagination. There is one man who wrote that his standing barefoot on a concrete floor shortened his attacks. This may be similar as it draws some circulation away from the head. Cold water, exercise, or anything affecting circulation, seems to be worth a try. My suggestion is to not let up immediately when the pain goes. Waiting a minute is probably a good idea. So long as you do not slack off, this has a chance of working.

This technique is very useful while waiting for medication to take effect or when none is available. It costs nothing, is non-invasive, and can be used just about anywhere. It is not a miracle but it helped me deal with this horror. It can be a bit exhausting but the success rate was good enough for me and a cluster headache sufferer will do just about anything to end the pain. It gives us a fighting chance.

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Reply #7 - Dec 4th, 2008 at 3:51am
 
I hear ya man, I really do..  Have you ever had trouble with sleep apnea?  well, I did, didnt know i had it til a few years ago, I was diognosed by my girlfriend who happens to be a surgeon and she got me prescribed for a cpap machine,, constaint pressure with a mask,, and that really changed the intensity of the attacks and it also made them less frequent so that I could at least get some things done..

Since using the machine,, if i get an attack, I go directly to the strong coffee, hot shower and then cold ice pack on the forehead and that seems to be enough to do the trick..

I have experimented around a bit and not used the machine and sure enough the attack will wake me up right on the button at 5 am...  and during that day, in the cycle, the severity of the attacks are BAD and the frequency of the attacks are greater, more sensitive to any bright light or computer work... but the machine really made a difference and you might wwant to check into that...  I did mine under the radar because of work... lucky to have a doctor for a girlfriend, but you might want to explore the idea..

Imitrex injections work very well for me,, expensive as hell but they work, but since using the cpap machine I have not had to use any of the drug at all..  good luck with your studies and I feel for ya..
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