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Garys_Girl CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Making biscuits Posts: 821 Planet Cat, NJ Gender:	Re: WTF?! Reply #50 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 4:50pm Sorry if I'm just being stupid, but Jonny left because DJ and Steph wanted a few more eyes on the board to make sure things didn't get out of hand on a personal level when inappropriate to begin with? I don't know anything about the alumnus politics, but that just doesn't sound right. ????????????? Laurie
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Garys_Girl CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Making biscuits Posts: 821 Planet Cat, NJ Gender:	Re: WTF?! Reply #51 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 4:52pm Melissa wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 4:44pm: ...We don't know just what exactly the reason is for him doing so, and until he tells us directly, we shouldn't be speculating.... Oh gotcha. Laurie
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Reply #52 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 4:52pm

Mat wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 4:46pm:

I only used their names because they were the most vocal, there were many on both sides. But I'll be quiet now and crawl back into my hole.

ohforpetesake, don't crawl in the hole!

I understand what you're getting at Matt. But I have faith that in time, those who left will come back again.

As for Jonny, I think it's because he was such a presence here, that him leaving comes as a shock to most. I never thought it'd happen, but then again I never thought I'd leave either. Undecided

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Reply #53 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 5:06pm

For what it's worth, and that isn't much in this economy,...

DJ and Steph have a young family to raise. They aren't around 24/7/365.

DJ started this place for US...but it's still HIS PLACE. We are guests here. And so what if he put a few people in charge of the keys to lock the threads that get out of hand.

Some will like it some won't. Some will leave, some will stay. Some will come back.

The word is out there about CH as it has never been at any time in history, thanks to this site and to OUCH.

But it is still very misunderstood and we as sufferers need to be on our toes to help direct the misdiagnosed because Cluster Headache is the new catch-all-disease of the headache day when they are too lazy or uninformed to look at the symptoms properly.

I for one am glad to know that there will be people entrusted by DJ and Steph to squelch any attacks on a newcomer.

Thats all I'm going to say on this matter, and I'm not going anywhere. I've taken my breaks too. And will again I'm sure if the mood strikes me.

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Reply #54 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 5:12pm

In my less than humble opinion, Jonny's decisions about this board are his own to make. I would only ask that others not get emotionally involved and judgemental about situations that really don't concern them or affect their lives.

What is important, to me, is knowing what Jonny has given to others, and he is a generous man. "Let he who is without fault cast the first stone."

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Mosaicwench CH.com Sponsor Offline www.mosaicwench.com Posts: 3507 Near Milwaukee WI, USA Gender:	Re: WTF?! Reply #55 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 5:52pm Jeannie wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 12:26pm: I rarely get a response from anything that I post. I read almost everything posted. I just never have any good ideas and thus don't post many replies. So consider yourself responded to . . .. (oh that's a terribly crafted sentence . . . )
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Reply #56 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 6:13pm

Dear Clusterville:

We are a diverse bunch. People come, people go. We are still a diverse bunch and support each other. I mourn the loss of certain individuals, but they know they can come back if they want to.

I'll have to grip my oar a little harder and pull on it a bit harder to row this boat, but row I will do.

Missing others but remaining in the boat,

Ray

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Reply #57 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 6:18pm

Ok:

As usual, I wasn't around for whatever happened. Will someone fill in the blanks?

Jonny left. Why? ___________
Was Jonny involved in some kind on moderator silliness? _____
Is there a post by him about this or was it confined to chat or something? _________

Finally, are you seriously telling us that the "Moderators" actually mod and if so, why? I'm dumbfounded that anyone remembered about mods or what....Global Moderators? What waste of energy if they do. ________

Finally, when I first got here, I was even dumber about the internet than now. He went out of his way....way out of his way to help me navigate here. I'll never forget that. Of course he's whacked too Cool

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karma CH.com Hall of Famer Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 937 St. Maarten/Neth. Antilles Gender:	Re: WTF?! Reply #58 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 6:23pm 5666 members registered, 09 members and 07 guests on now. Whats my point?? I'm not really sure. I guess it is that CH.com is much bigger than any individual. How many came, got what they needed and went without us knowing? Surely it is more than 5666. Impresive isn't it! Thanks D.J.
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Marc Ex Member Gender:	Re: WTF?! Reply #59 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 7:12pm Got questions? He is easy to find. Just Google: Jonny Mule
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Reply #60 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 8:15pm

I don't know why Jonny left, but if he feels he has to then that is his right.
Jonny if you are reading this. Know that you will always be remembered by our family. My grandson was told and is reminded that his name is Jonny Dalton. That he was named after me Johnnie but because you were here for us and we wanted him to carry you with him that we spelled his name the way you do. That the spelling makes the name special and that the man with that name is strong but has a heart of gold.
JD also knows we looked for a middle name that started with D. That is DJ backwards. That reminds us of two wonderful guys that made a big difference in our life. There is a lot about you Jonny in his memory book. He has a O.U.C.H. card you gave him. He has post you posted to him. There is a picture of you in there. I just know he will thorw that picture in my face when he gets older and wants a tatoo. Thanks Jonny that will be hard to fight.
You are important to a lot of us. You will be welcome here when you come back. You know I will never forget you.
Do what you feel you have to do. But know your well loved.

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Reply #61 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 9:20pm

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...if I was new on a community board about a medical condition, and I saw a 'Global Moderator' repeatedly bragging about the size of his schlong, or sending pictures around to prove it, I would have serious questions about the whole board. So, I can see the reasoning behind not making him a moderator. I am saddened that Jonny has taken it so personally, but we are all free to do whatever we feel like doing in this regard.

-Shawn

Shawn, you hit the nail directly on the head. Both with this post and with your next one in this thread.

I, probably more than anyone, is sad to see Jonny go. He's done more good things for people on this site... and the site itself... than most of you will EVER know. He's protected and defended this place tooth and nail since day one and kept who knows how many trolls from even making it to the board. He bluntly tells it exactly like it is, no matter who he's talking to and could publically call out a bullshitter after their first post. All reasons I couldn't make him a moderator.

I tried to explain to him that I didn't make him a moderator because I would never ask him to be someone he wasn't, but I'm not sure I did a very good job of explaining it. For that, I am very sorry.

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DonnaH_again Ex Member	Re: WTF?! Reply #62 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 9:51pm Now I understand (not that you owe us any explaination, but not to explain just wouldn't be you). Now everyone should understand. Many of us really love Jonny and hope he will return. Maybe if he should happen to read this, he will understand too. Thanks DJ.
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Reply #63 - Dec 5^th, 2008 at 12:27am

DJ wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 9:20pm:

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...if I was new on a community board about a medical condition, and I saw a 'Global Moderator' repeatedly bragging about the size of his schlong, or sending pictures around to prove it, I would have serious questions about the whole board. So, I can see the reasoning behind not making him a moderator. I am saddened that Jonny has taken it so personally, but we are all free to do whatever we feel like doing in this regard.

-Shawn

Shawn, you hit the nail directly on the head. Both with this post and with your next one in this thread.

I, probably more than anyone, is sad to see Jonny go. He's done more good things for people on this site... and the site itself... than most of you will EVER know. He's protected and defended this place tooth and nail since day one and kept who knows how many trolls from even making it to the board. He bluntly tells it exactly like it is, no matter who he's talking to and could publically call out a bullshitter after their first post. All reasons I couldn't make him a moderator.

I tried to explain to him that I didn't make him a moderator because I would never ask him to be someone he wasn't, but I'm not sure I did a very good job of explaining it. For that, I am very sorry.

DJ

Steph,

You told me earlier in this thread that no one was holding me back... well I was holding me back and I'm damn glad I did. I totally misread the situation. I couldn't imagine Jonny leaving over the Moderator issue.

If this is true then I have nothing else to say but that I wish Jonny the best and I hope he returns.

Hopefully people will see this thread and realize what DJ and Steph have built here. A place where people can be themselves, disagree, and yet still help and be helped.

they also need to know that the moderators dont delete posts, edit posts, or have any privs regarding poster accounts. They really are only here to keep the peace so DJ and Steph dont need to be on 24/7.

Thank you all for your opinions. Let's move forward and keep enjoying this site for it's strengths.

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Reply #67 - Dec 5^th, 2008 at 2:05am

KingOfPain wrote on Dec 5^th, 2008 at 1:58am:

BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote on Dec 5^th, 2008 at 1:49am:

KingOfPain wrote on Dec 5^th, 2008 at 1:30am:

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Kevin_M CH.com Sponsor Offline withered branches grow green again. Posts: 8754 Michigan, USA Gender:	Re: WTF?! Reply #68 - Dec 5^th, 2008 at 5:18am I think he left a descriptively adequate response why he left that fits his life and times here as an unbridled shaker and mover. I'll remember that but not speak for him.
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deltadarlin CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 3823 Downsville LA Gender:	Re: WTF?! Reply #69 - Dec 5^th, 2008 at 8:18am Kevin_M wrote on Dec 5^th, 2008 at 5:18am: I think he left a descriptively adequate response why he left that fits his life and times here as an unbridled shaker and mover. I'll remember that but not speak for him. That I must have missed (and I thought I read most every thing on the board).
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Reply #70 - Dec 5^th, 2008 at 4:55pm

DJ wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 9:20pm:

I, probably more than anyone, is sad to see Jonny go. He's done more good things for people on this site... and the site itself... than most of you will EVER know. He's protected and defended this place tooth and nail since day one and kept who knows how many trolls from even making it to the board. He bluntly tells it exactly like it is, no matter who he's talking to and could publically call out a bullshitter after their first post. All reasons I couldn't make him a moderator.
DJ

Sometimes it is best to simply sit back and observe. Case in point here. I have a better understanding of the moderator role and why certain individuals were chosen.
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ANNSIE Ex Member	Re: WTF?! Reply #71 - Dec 5^th, 2008 at 5:01pm Do we need to have an "autopsy" every time someone leaves or wants to take a break ? Cant we just say " Take care, see you later " and leave a light on ?
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Rolomatic Ex Member	Re: WTF?! Reply #72 - Dec 5^th, 2008 at 5:20pm Quote: Do we need to have an "autopsy" every time someone leaves or wants to take a break ? Cant we just say " Take care, see you later " and leave a light on ? I guess I would put it this way… If your teenager is leaving for collage you would feel anticipation and if they were heading to prison you would feel trepidation….Rolo…
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Reply #73 - Dec 5^th, 2008 at 5:40pm

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Do we need to have an "autopsy" every time someone leaves or wants to take a break ? Cant we just say " Take care, see you later " and leave a light on ?

I guess I would put it this way… If your teenager is leaving for collage you would feel anticipation (I would send them with scissors and paste) and if they were heading to prison you would feel intrepidation (maybe trepidation)….Rolo… Smiley

Take care , see you later Jonny. We'll leave a light on.

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Reply #74 - Dec 5^th, 2008 at 6:24pm

Mat wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 2:25pm:

deltadarlin wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 9:47am:

Mat wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 9:16am:

Is this what you were looking for Lelimey? I saw this coming. How long have they been here? Who else has left?

Matt,
That is totally uncalled for. If people leave because they happen not to like the way a place is being run, then it's their loss.

And this is for anyone who doesn't like what Deej and Steph have decided to do with their board, start your own damned board and see how difficult it is to please not everybody, but just one person.

OK Helen threatened to leave because she didn't like the way the board was run. Jonny and Beth did leave, how many people has Jonny helped here over the years? It's like whos opinion matters more. Can ya'll not see the irony here? And my post was not out of line and was a valid question. There was no disrespect intended. When you make that kind of changes to someones home, and this was Jonny's home what do you expect is going to happen? He's been here since the beginning. Maybe this thread needs to be locked....where are the Mods.

There are many people who were here, and are still here, long before Jonny got here. However, like all of us feel, this is our home, not just one person's home. If someone feels like leaving, taking a break, or deleting themselves, then I hope the time off helps them. Jonny has done a lot to help people, but there are other people on this board who have also helped a lot of people without telling anyone.

If he decided to leave because he wasn't made a moderator, then I'm very sorry he feels that way. DJ was gracious enough to let us know why. There are many other members who were not made moderators, I believe DJ and Steph made good decisions regarding the mods, who really do represent this board. Jonny is an adult, and can make his own decisions. He decided this was best for him. He'll return when he's ready. Let's leave it at that.

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