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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	baby it's cold outside... Dec 4^th, 2008 at 7:41am Bring on the thermal underwear, nose-cicles and hot chocolate!!
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Rolomatic Ex Member	Re: baby it's cold outside... Reply #1 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 7:47am Gee Mel, is that this morning? -5 .. It's 15 here... Been wearing them for two weeks already!! I'm a freeze baby
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barry_sword CH.com Alumnus Offline Mountain Biking Keeps Me Sane Posts: 3947 Bracebridge, Canada Gender:	Re: baby it's cold outside... Reply #2 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 7:50am it's just around the freezing mark here this morning, but we are under a snow squall warning for the next 48 hours. I have my shovel tuned up and ready for our second storm of the year!!!
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ClusterChuck CH.com Alumnus Offline The BEAST rises again, and again, and again, and . Posts: 5394 Greenville, North Carolina Gender:	Re: baby it's cold outside... Reply #3 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 7:51am Mel, dahhhhlink, I think I may have said this before, but here it is again: KWITCHERBITCHIN Chuck
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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	Re: baby it's cold outside... Reply #4 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 7:56am ClusterChuck wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 7:51am: Mel, dahhhhlink, I think I may have said this before, but here it is again: KWITCHERBITCHIN Chuck Chuck, now where on earth can you point out I wuz bitchin? hmmmmmm??
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flipperlips CH.com Alumnus Offline Live, Laugh, Love Posts: 935 Mcallen, TX Gender:	Re: baby it's cold outside... Reply #5 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 8:40am And here I thought it was cold here this morning at 24 degrees
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Mosaicwench CH.com Sponsor Offline www.mosaicwench.com Posts: 3507 Near Milwaukee WI, USA Gender:	Re: baby it's cold outside... Reply #6 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 8:54am It's currently 8 degrees here. Plenty of snow cover and sun galore. It's Winter in Wisconsin! Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or
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Reply #7 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 9:17am

It's still making it up to around 40○ here in the afternoon. You all are making me jealous with that beautiful snow. We don't get too much of that around here anymore. I swear we had more snowy winters when I was a kid. I LOVE it! Of course, I get to work from my home so I don't have to drive in it. WARNING!!!! People in St. Louis CANNOT drive when ANYTHING falls from the sky.

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Bob P CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Shut up Bob! Posts: 4573 Clio,California Gender:	Re: baby it's cold outside... Reply #8 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 9:42am House question for you snow dwellers (since I will be one in the not too distant future). If your house is on a raised foundation, how do you keep the pipes from freezing? Is it just a matter of good insulation on the pipes or does the crawl space warm up once the snow covers the foundation vents?
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Reply #9 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 9:48am

Bob,

Most of the houses in the larger cities have full basements and the furnace usually keeps it warm enough to keep the pipes from freezing. As for crawl spaces, an electrical "heat tape" can be used to keep the pipes from freezing. Vacation homes up North are usually winterized by blowing out the pipes and putting antifreeze in the toilets.

Did anyone ever notice a lot of babies up here are born in Sept/Oct?

That's another way to stay warm Wink

Both my boys are September babies Roll Eyes

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Rolomatic Ex Member	Re: baby it's cold outside... Reply #10 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 10:06am Quote: Both my boys are September babies Jimmers Too cold to run to the drug store?
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jimmers Ex Member	Re: baby it's cold outside... Reply #11 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 10:46am Using one of 'those" is like taking a shower with your socks on! Jimmers
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Reply #12 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 10:59am

Mine is going to be a year round living house. It will just have a crawl space underneath. I am planning on a hydronic radiant heated floor, under hardwood, so maybe if I keep the pipes (here they use PEX) up tight against the underside of the heated floor and then the insulation between the floor joist covering the tubing it will be ok.

No snow at my lot yet but the nights are in the low 20's.

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Reply #14 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 11:08am

That is not a very effective source of heat, Bob. Radiant floor heat with a heat pump for heat and an insulated tank to hold water is probably the most efficient way to heat........however, wood is not a very good conductor of heat.

In fact, wood is actually a good insulator because it does such a poor job of conducting heat.

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Paul98 CH.com Alumnus Offline What, it's all in my head? Posts: 2532 Clyde, NY USA Gender:	Re: baby it's cold outside... Reply #15 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 11:17am I am SO glad you folks are talking degrees Celsius. I would not want someone to think it is actually cold here. Phew, I need to put a "T" shirt on this balmy weather is making me sweat. -P.
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Rolomatic Ex Member	Re: baby it's cold outside... Reply #16 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 11:19am Actually B$, particle board transfers heat quite well. The new composite wood floors work ok in the IFH applications I have seen here in Minnesota.
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Reply #17 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 2:52pm

I'm using this:
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and a Takagi tankless water heater that is 94% efficient. I'm backing it up with a "Fireplace Extrordinaire" that can pump out 80K Btuh.

In cold weather heat pumps suck unless you're putting in geothermal ground loops for heat transfer.

I'm building in Clio, Calif., in the northern Sierra, about 45 miles northwest of the Trukee/Tahoe area.

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My main concern was my domestic cold water lines but I think doing what I said above will work. Guess I should just ask the neighbors what they're doing.

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BMoneeTheMoneeMan CH.com Alumnus Offline In remembrance of KingCazman. RIP Posts: 2674 Portland, OR	Re: baby it's cold outside... Reply #18 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 3:18pm <pondering>.......... Weird. Tankless, huh? Does water circulate all the time or does the water only circulate when the thermostat falls below temp? What temp will the water in the pipes be at delivery? No tank at all?? And then you have another tankless for the faucets? Hmmmmm.........
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Reply #19 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 4:06pm

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You can do it 2 ways:
Direct - where the heating water circulates in the floor loops (only when the thermostat calls and starts a circ pump) and the domestic hot is Tee'd off of this, through a tempering valve and then to the faucets.

Indirect - where the heating loop is closed and heated by the domestic hot water via a heat exchanger.

As for temperature - you can reset the temp based on outside air temp, the colder it is outside the hotter the water gets. They generally run fairly low temp, 110-140 degrees and the circ pumps are only fractional horsepower. Also easy to make different heating zones within the house. I'm planning on one zone for the master suite, one for the living area and one for the guest rooms upstairs.

Mrs. Barlow, I never, and I repeat never, ever pissed in your steam iron. "SHUT UP HUB!"

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Melissa wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 7:41am:

Bring on the thermal underwear, nose-cicles and hot chocolate!!

Cheesy

I noticed that you didn't get all the snow off the deck. There's a few small clumps to the right and left of the guage. There's alittle on the rail as well. Just here to help.

I'm going to go out and rake leaves in my t-shirt now.

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echo wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 4:37pm:

Melissa wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 7:41am:

Bring on the thermal underwear, nose-cicles and hot chocolate!!

Cheesy

You turd, that shoveling is Eli's work, LOL. Tongue

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Bob P wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 9:42am:

House question for you snow dwellers (since I will be one in the not too distant future). If your house is on a raised foundation, how do you keep the pipes from freezing? Is it just a matter of good insulation on the pipes or does the crawl space warm up once the snow covers the foundation vents?

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barry_sword CH.com Alumnus Offline Mountain Biking Keeps Me Sane Posts: 3947 Bracebridge, Canada Gender:	Re: baby it's cold outside... Reply #23 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 6:20pm Basement, insulated and heated. No storm here yet today, but we are not out of the woods with this one at all! My buddy just sent me this pic of a prototype snow bike. Now this baby has some possibilities for sure! Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or
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Linda_Howell CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Do not feed the Moderators Posts: 11927 Santa Maria, Ca. Gender:	Re: baby it's cold outside... Reply #24 - Dec 4^th, 2008 at 6:22pm WOW Pat. As much as I hate snow, that picture of your house is absolutely gorgeous.
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