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rodoepig CH.com Newbie Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 17	WEED Jan 17^th, 2009 at 1:24am Just curious on your guys experience with CH and Regularly smoking weed, not a puff now and then, but serious pot smokers, any of yous out there, of course. ciao for now
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barry_sword CH.com Alumnus Offline Mountain Biking Keeps Me Sane Posts: 3947 Bracebridge, Canada Gender:	Re: WEED Reply #1 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:52am rodoepig wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 1:24am: ciao for now ??????????? What does this stand for? Am I missing something obvious?
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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	Re: WEED Reply #2 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:57am barry_sword wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:52am: rodoepig wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 1:24am: ciao for now ??????????? What does this stand for? Am I missing something obvious? ummm, Barry? Ciao is "bye" or "hello" in Italian, lol
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Reply #4 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 12:17pm

hi, ive smoked bud since a couple of years before i got Ch, i only recall a few bad episodes and that was from smoking a water bong...which obviously sets of the sinus, which then my eyes got pressure and then the chain reaction begins

but apart from that smoking normal joints only set about a lot of pressure which was just about managable but was long lasting

havnt smoked for several months, but will in the future due to my a.d.d and other reasons
anyway in short smoking its not gunna help, but u can always smoke bud through a vapouriser which isnt smoking and eating...

i also saw a article about cannaboids and CH can anyone give me any futher information ?

edit : the last i smoked bud everyday on the regs was when i brought back aload of buds from a'dam and i cant actually re call any CH attacks.....

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Potter CH.com Alumnus Offline Team MOOSE DROOL Stinky Stuff on a Hook Prostaff Posts: 3600 Blgs.Mt. Gender:	Re: WEED Reply #5 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 7:45pm It's called dope for a reason kids and yer the proof. Potter
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MITYRARE CH.com Old Timer Offline autocross racer Posts: 361 Ontario, Canada Gender:	Re: WEED Reply #6 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 8:37pm Potter wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 7:45pm: It's called dope for a reason kids and yer the proof. Potter Thanks Potter Paul
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bytor Ex Member	Re: WEED Reply #7 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 8:54pm Potter wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 7:45pm: It's called dope for a reason kids and yer the proof. Potter Just because you don't partake, don't go ripping on us! Every one has their vices and we are just trying to figure out if one of ours might be a problem.
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Linda_Howell CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Do not feed the Moderators Posts: 11927 Santa Maria, Ca. Gender:	Re: WEED Reply #8 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 8:55pm Yes.!!!!!!!! Thank you Potter.
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Reply #9 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:09pm

Potter (and the likes),

I was under the assumption that this was a message board for new members wanting to gather as much information as possible about this illness called Clusterheadaches That is what I am trying to do. I do not recall asking your personal opinion on pot smoking, so why don't you (and the likes), in the future, show some respect and manners, by keeping your personal opinions, on anything other than Clusterheadaches, to yourself. You ignorance is a topic on some other message board.

Thanks to those who answer with intelligance, and don't let people like Potter keep you from this site. I think it is amazing.

Rob

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Jeannie CH.com Sponsor Offline Live, Laugh, Love.... Posts: 2333 St Louis, Missouri Gender:	Re: WEED Reply #10 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:25pm WEED is not good for CH. Jeannie Edit to add: Your brain cells don't like it much either.
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Reply #11 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 1:09am

"Potter (and the likes),
I was under the assumption that this was a message board for new members wanting to gather as much information as possible about this illness called Clusterheadaches"

As a newbie, when you ask for advice on something, you're going to get opinions that you might not like. If you really are interested in learning about cluster headaches, it would serve you well to respect the opinions of long-standing members of this site like Potter.
They've seen a lot of research and they've heard a lot of stories.

"I do not recall asking your personal opinion on pot smoking"

when you post a question on a public thread, yer gonna get public answers! Cheesy

"so why don't you (and the likes), in the future, show some respect and manners, by keeping your personal opinions, on anything other than Clusterheadaches, to yourself."

Why don't you show some respect to the good people on this board who've been contributing to this site a lot longer than you have? These threads are all ABOUT personal opinions!! Roll Eyes

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Reply #12 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 2:00am

Rob…. I am the „likes“ (as you call it) as Potter is……
Your initial post was, and I quote “Just curious on your guys experience with CH and Regularly smoking weed” you have got an opinion..... you just didn’t like it..... so you started an “attack” ,something not very wise to do.....

It is a message board, and a very good one! and the vast “data bank” of information is for you to search,
and learn!
but some how it dose not seem to me that you are on this one (CH.com) to try and gather info and listen to the more experienced “old timers”, I will be honest, I can not figure out what are you trying to do or say.....
other then jump at a respected person!

Or, are you trying to tell me (and other) that smoking drugs is OK? and that it dose not do any thing to your CH? or to your well being..... ?

and

you post this “Just curious on your guys experience” on Cluster Headache Help and Support board, I fail to see the connection of your inquiry or statement to the purpose of the board you have used….. I don’t believe the use of drugs for recreational purpose is a help or support for CH

I will try and make it clear to you, promoting or justifying drug use, for recreational purpose, is not what this massage board is about, in my opinion...... I have not detected in your post that you suggest that the use of drugs might help in relief from CH episodes..... so I have a feel you suggest use of drugs is OK in your books...... well surprise..... not in my books, and I will fight you and denounce you, and as you call it, the likes of you......

Rob, if your first post was just a miss understanding and your intentions are honest and you are in this to try and gather info. and share info with us about CH I simply suggest re-think or re-phrase your first thread..... and I will apologise for my (this) replay……

But if you are going to insist on the wording of your initial post and the (uncalled) replay to Potter, I will join the chorus of denouncers, and will expose you and your misconception of this massage board!

Michael

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Reply #13 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 2:17am

rodoepig wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:09pm:

Potter (and the likes),

I was under the assumption that this was a message board for new members wanting to gather as much information as possible about this illness called Clusterheadaches That is what I am trying to do. I do not recall asking your personal opinion on pot smoking, so why don't you (and the likes), in the future, show some respect and manners, by keeping your personal opinions, on anything other than Clusterheadaches, to yourself. You ignorance is a topic on some other message board.

Thanks to those who answer with intelligance, and don't let people like Potter keep you from this site. I think it is amazing.

Rob

Oh no you didn't girlfriend!

The subject and question about cannabis and ch is relevant.. IMHO
Try a little experiment if you're really curious about the effect of cannabis on triggering CH. Stop using it for 5 years.

Now... on to the part where you became disrespectful... some say it triggers cluster headaches,,,

Try this little experiment... stop being disrespectful for five years and see if it helps your CH.

PF wishes to ya.

with warm regards,
Tony

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Jonny Ex Member	Re: WEED Reply #14 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 2:39am The disrespect on this site amazes me!
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coach_bill CH.com Hall of Famer Offline "Dont expect me to lay down for this" Posts: 680 x0\|euclid\|USA\|\|0\|0\|OH,Ohio Gender:	Re: WEED Reply #15 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 9:42am Does this mean were not going to get to sit around the camp fire and sing... kum bye ya, at the next convention? Bogas..... Coach bill
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Reply #16 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 10:07am

This really isn't a new conversation, although the participants seem to be new. May I suggest that anyone interested run a search of the site (Google Advanced Search works well) to ferret out the many, many old and threadbare threads on this subject?

The consensus (if you can call it that) in the past has been that marijuana is an instant trigger for many--much like alcohol--but not for others.

I recall at least one person (sensitive to tetrahydrocannabinol while in cycle) who enthusiastically sampled various strains and both species in cultivation--sativa and indica--to see if that made a difference. To the best of my recollection, it did not. He still got whacked with a CH every time he smoked pot, but he nevertheless persisted. Seems a strange thing to me--like inviting Dracula into the house--but so it goes.

Talk about "recreational" substances on an open forum, and you'll get responses. Ask a question, and anyone can answer. You may not care for some of the answers, but hey--you asked. Wink

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George

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Reply #17 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 10:57am

to say weed itself causes Ch is a bit silly...obviously its the smoke itself?...
to the ignorant heads, bud itself if you look at the latest studies has no proven link to mentall health and you could look at the dozens of illness's it helps and prevents
why are pharmacutacol companies around the world extracting cancer killing cells from cannaboids ?

could anyone answer my question about the help cannaboids do with CH, i saw it after someone on here gave me a link but didnt have much research on it...thanks

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Reply #18 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 11:05am

calum wrote on Jan 18^th, 2009 at 10:57am:

to say weed itself causes Ch is a bit silly...obviously its the smoke itself?...
to the ignorant heads, bud itself if you look at the latest studies has no proven link to mentall health and you could look at the dozens of illness's it helps and prevents
why are pharmacutacol companies around the world extracting cancer killing cells from cannaboids ?

could anyone answer my question about the help cannaboids do with CH, i saw it after someone on here gave me a link but didnt have much research on it...thanks

It's a trigger of great proportions. Don't discuss your recreational drugs here.

Kinder gentler Potter

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Jonny Ex Member	Re: WEED Reply #19 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 11:07am calum wrote on Jan 18^th, 2009 at 10:57am: could anyone answer my question about the help cannaboids do with CH Huh?.....You are high, right?
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calum CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 37 essex	Re: WEED Reply #20 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 11:33am er how am i discussing my recreational drug habits? i havnt smoked in over half a year i found the link Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or
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Reply #21 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 11:45am

calum wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 12:17pm:

hi, ive smoked bud since a couple of years before i got Ch, i only recall a few bad episodes and that was from smoking a water bong...which obviously sets of the sinus, which then my eyes got pressure and then the chain reaction begins

but apart from that smoking normal joints only set about a lot of pressure which was just about managable but was long lasting

havnt smoked for several months, but will in the future due to my a.d.d and other reasons
anyway in short smoking its not gunna help, but u can always smoke bud through a vapouriser which isnt smoking and eating...

i also saw a article about cannaboids and CH can anyone give me any futher information ?

edit : the last i smoked bud everyday on the regs was when i brought back aload of buds from a'dam and i cant actually re call any CH attacks.....

Recreating or smuggling which is it?

Kinder gentler Potter and the likes

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calum CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 37 essex	Re: WEED Reply #22 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 12:00pm right...well pardon me, this thread is about weed and CH, so i replied in it, sorry you have to be so petty
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ChefChris CH.com Veteran Offline Posts: 245 Virginia Beach, Va Gender:	Re: WEED Reply #23 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 12:28pm dude...take it from me......give up and drop it. not one person here will advocate pot smoking to cure CH. just DROP IT. if it works for you, keep it to yourself. go to clusterbusters.com. i have nothing more to say
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Reply #24 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 12:34pm

Calum, to the best of my knowledge, pot or whatever you want to call it is a vaso dilator.

CH pain is caused by vaso dilation (very over simplified) which is why we take vaso constrictors such as triptans to alleviate the pain. It's also why caffeine works so well as that too is a vaso constrictor (which is why it can cause headaches for people with normal blood vessels!)

The last thing a clusterhead needs is further dilation of those poor afflicted veins in our noggin so the general consensus is that pot is a major trigger for the majority not a help.

Of course, you'll always find someone to tell you it works but then again - we've had people swearing by blue cheese and vinegar and banana skins wrapped around your head!

I hope this helps, if not you then at least others reading this topic looking for answers.

Helen

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