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Reply #25 - Jan 18th, 2009 at 1:01pm
 
hey, i wasnt aware of that, i would of thought it relaxed the muscles in the brain, i wasnt advocating anything i even said a few of my worst attacks have come from smoking....just trying to point out it does more good than harm, random but how do substances like mushrooms and Lsd help CH's ??
caffiene? that seems odd to me as stuff like that and chocolate etc used to cause me migranes as a kid
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Reply #26 - Jan 18th, 2009 at 1:19pm
 
Calum, no offense, but you have GOT to start reading the information we give you links to!!!  You have been given tons of advice on websites to go to to research every question you have, but you seem to just want everything regurgitated for you!!  Cheesy

GO to clusterbusters.com to learn about the mechanism in the psychadelic compounds that actually affects CH.  Do a search on google to find out what pot really does.  Read the link we have provided you to find out what Cluster Headaches actually are (they have little or nothing to do with muscles!!!)

And please don't say you can't do that because of your ADD.  I have severe ADD.  If you can read these posts, then you can just as easily read the info on the links.  Wink
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Reply #27 - Jan 18th, 2009 at 1:20pm
 
calum wrote on Jan 18th, 2009 at 1:01pm:
relaxed the muscles in the brain


Huh?.....You still smoking?

"Muscles in the brain"?.....LMMFAO Smiley
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Reply #28 - Jan 18th, 2009 at 1:23pm
 
Wow!! People need to chill out over here… maybe smoke a little something??
Im kidding ! I actually tested weed & hash (as a preventative) a couple of times and it was a MASSIVE trigger for me.

If it would actually help me—I would use it! but it don’t … so im back to saving some brain cells (lost too many as a kid..  Lips Sealed
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Reply #29 - Jan 18th, 2009 at 1:25pm
 
yeah i know, i didnt really pick up on what people were saying in the first page i skimmed read it and just thought people were just attacking bud
i can obviously read its just articles tend to be an overeload of words and long paragraphs which i find myself reading over and over again and my mind constantly wanders so i dont really take it in, im sure u know what i mean
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Reply #30 - Jan 18th, 2009 at 1:30pm
 
you sound like you do drugs like i do. nobody here likes me for that fact. but were all here for the same reason, CH.
i was in the peak of a cycle and i ate some mushrooms and the next day no HA. i dont know if it will work for you, im not advocating the use of illicit drugs. but take from it what you will,
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Reply #31 - Jan 18th, 2009 at 1:38pm
 
not really, im just very unarticulate and very bad at getting my point across, i wouldnt class bud or mushrooms as drugs anyways to be honest
im looking at the clusterbuster site, this is the only decent page i can find on it.. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register, the rest is about Lsd and mushrooms treatment for CH
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Reply #32 - Jan 18th, 2009 at 1:48pm
 
I've just done some searching, and so far the consensus on the board seems to be that pot either triggers clusters (most of the responses) or does nothing (only a couple of people)...I can't find anyone saying it helps.
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Reply #33 - Jan 18th, 2009 at 1:53pm
 
fair enough, that article i posted must be a load of turd then
smoking in generall is going to be a trigger though isnt it, setting of the sinus ?
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Reply #34 - Jan 18th, 2009 at 3:52pm
 
DONT SMOKE IN A CYCLE. unless you enjoy the pain.
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Reply #35 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 12:52am
 
It has no effect on me, positive or negative, in regards to CH.  Booze on the other hand, errr!  I do miss my drink when in cycle.  Aren't there a few on here  for whom booze isn't a trigger?
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Reply #36 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 1:09am
 
I knew this would be a good read. Believe it or not there are some initial studies regarding medical marijuana and migraines/CH. Check out MAPS.org. I have to say if you smoke the weed in an episode ,it's like sticking your hand in the fire. Get ready for pain.
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Reply #37 - Jan 20th, 2009 at 12:59am
 
I have read in several med. journal articles that the official word on alcohol is that it is a dietary trigger, and that it triggers clusters 70% of the time...so there's a slight chance with every drink that it might not trigger it that time.

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Reply #38 - Jan 20th, 2009 at 11:23am
 
ChefChris wrote on Jan 18th, 2009 at 1:30pm:
you sound like you do drugs like i do. nobody here likes me for that fact. but were all here for the same reason, CH.


Naw being a drug abuser isn't the reason the folks here don't care about you,  it's your lack of veracity.

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Reply #39 - Jan 20th, 2009 at 11:27am
 
Potter wrote on Jan 20th, 2009 at 11:23am:
ChefChris wrote on Jan 18th, 2009 at 1:30pm:
you sound like you do drugs like i do. nobody here likes me for that fact. but were all here for the same reason, CH.


Naw being a drug abuser isn't the reason the folks here don't care about you,  it's your lack of veracity.

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Reply #40 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 2:56pm
 
I would have tried weed....but I'm afraid of needles.
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Reply #41 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 8:38pm
 
I would have tried weed....but I'm afraid of needles Grin

I don't care who you are...that thar is funny! Grin

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Reply #42 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 11:56pm
 
Now I know why it doesn't work for my headaches
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Reply #43 - Jan 24th, 2009 at 9:58am
 
when i started my CH a few years ago almost everything wa a trigger

recently they just work more on the clock.

i have smoked pot when in a cycle...at the time it did nothing (cept make me dance around like a loon) but the next few days were quite ruff.

drinking for me before would bring on a headache within minutes.
be recently again its stopped being a trigger at all....infact if i want to get a good sleep without a headach for once i just get really drunk.

i know what most will say to this but i can assure you that it works for me.
as i said in the topic about shrooms and lsa i have no problems about taking ANYTHING to stop these headaches. but its just hard for me to get the clusterbusting stuff atm so i havnt been able to try that...yet.

there has actually been alot of posts about drinking ALOT of alcohol being able to stop a cycle of headaches for about 24 hours or so...that is why i tried it....i drank one beer and got a monster headache...but kept drinking....12 beers later had the best incycle sleep ever, woke up shit the next day but no headaches.
that is not a good option...it is not a cure...but i keep it in hand and remember EVERYTHING that gets posted...i discard nothing. anything thing that might help me is something in my CV to combat this crap.

most CH meds make me really sick in the long term...esp topamax. o2 is ok but its not mobile enough for me at all...and its only like 50-70% effective...but thats better than nothing....

so.

instead of putting people down over anything just please chill out and do your own thing.
ive been holding off of saying about the drinking thing for ages because i know i would just get flamed like hell here...this is a very friendly site at times but is is also very nasty for alot of new comers.

ive been here for 3 -4 years now and most of my support has been thru pm's
i try to avoid the forums for the most part...its just not a friendly place most of the time...i hope you guys realise that..

anyway...enough of my ramble.

let pl be.
do your own thing.
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Reply #44 - Jan 24th, 2009 at 1:42pm
 
I think you are right to a degree but there has to be some protection against exploitation.

I also agree that you should say what you want and express your ideas and that some people need to be more tolerant about it even if they don't agree.

There is a lot of really good information on here and it is important to think about what you say in posts.

For my part and I think like most other people use the site to get and give information and support one another. Some are better at it than others and working your way round the more difficult responses keeps you in the loop and less likely to be offended.

Sensitivity is not everyone's forte.

Interesting about the alcohol but I am not going to try it. The risk if it doesn't work doesn't bear thinking about. But good luck to you and I think you are a brave guy to try it.

For me clusterbusters are the ones with the best answer so far.

Like you I keep an open mind to anything that will get us safely pain free.

Don't give up on everyone because some don't agree with you and are blunt about it. Have to say though that Ridicule is a pretty low kind of humour.

Just on point of topic, I have not tried 'dope' to abort an attack. About 20 years ago when I was just in the beginning of a cycle I went on a boat trip complained about the headache someone suggested a joit for pain. I tried it and it worked. In relation to vaso dilation it doesn't make sense to to use 'dope'.

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Reply #45 - Jan 24th, 2009 at 1:51pm
 
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there has actually been alot of posts about drinking ALOT of alcohol being able to stop a cycle of headaches for about 24 hours or so...


Could you please show us where you saw that one?

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instead of putting people down over anything just please chill out and do your own thing.
ive been holding off of saying about the drinking thing for ages because i know i would just get flamed like hell here...this is a very friendly site at times but is is also very nasty for alot of new comers.


Let me try to explain THAT one.

We have newbies coming here on an almost daily basis.  People who are hurting and desperate.  Instead of reading about the physical aspects of this condition and scientific information to help them...they read that drinking 12 beers and getting sloppy drunk helped or WEED helped....or a dozen other crazy things helped and so they go and try it only to suffer needlessly.

          THAT is why crack-pot theories get jumped on. !!!!!!!!
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Reply #46 - Jan 24th, 2009 at 2:00pm
 
cyberone wrote on Jan 24th, 2009 at 9:58am:
....infact if i want to get a good sleep without a headach for once i just get really drunk.


I bet O2 is much nicer to your liver!

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Reply #47 - Jan 24th, 2009 at 2:09pm
 
cyberone wrote on Jan 24th, 2009 at 9:58am:
when i started my CH a few years ago almost everything wa a trigger

recently they just work more on the clock.

i have smoked pot when in a cycle...at the time it did nothing (cept make me dance around like a loon) but the next few days were quite ruff.

drinking for me before would bring on a headache within minutes.
be recently again its stopped being a trigger at all....infact if i want to get a good sleep without a headach for once i just get really drunk.

i know what most will say to this but i can assure you that it works for me.
as i said in the topic about shrooms and lsa i have no problems about taking ANYTHING to stop these headaches. but its just hard for me to get the clusterbusting stuff atm so i havnt been able to try that...yet.

there has actually been alot of posts about drinking ALOT of alcohol being able to stop a cycle of headaches for about 24 hours or so...that is why i tried it....i drank one beer and got a monster headache...but kept drinking....12 beers later had the best incycle sleep ever, woke up shit the next day but no headaches.
that is not a good option...it is not a cure...but i keep it in hand and remember EVERYTHING that gets posted...i discard nothing. anything thing that might help me is something in my CV to combat this crap.

most CH meds make me really sick in the long term...esp topamax. o2 is ok but its not mobile enough for me at all...and its only like 50-70% effective...but thats better than nothing....

so.

instead of putting people down over anything just please chill out and do your own thing.
ive been holding off of saying about the drinking thing for ages because i know i would just get flamed like hell here...this is a very friendly site at times but is is also very nasty for alot of new comers.

ive been here for 3 -4 years now and most of my support has been thru pm's
i try to avoid the forums for the most part...its just not a friendly place most of the time...i hope you guys realise that..

anyway...enough of my ramble.

let pl be.
do your own thing.
peace


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Reply #48 - Jan 24th, 2009 at 2:13pm
 
Mrs Deej wrote on Jan 24th, 2009 at 2:00pm:
I bet O2 is much nicer to your liver!

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I'll back your bet if anyone takes it.....LMAO!  Wink
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Reply #49 - Jan 24th, 2009 at 3:18pm
 
For those who dont want to read 2 pages of more weed talk, here's your synopsis:

1.  Question about weed comes up.
2.  People reply that weed is a trigger to many.
3.  Someone gets their feelings hurt that people wont justify them smoking weed.
4.  People throw out the "respect card"
5.  Someone tells a joke (I like this part)
6.  In the end, noone has any good evidence that weed is anything better for CH than a possible trigger

I can't wait for the next multi-page thread about weed where we find out the same 2 things:

Weed isn't good for CH
Weed doesn't help your brain

OK.... can we get back to wrapping our heads in bananas which I would be more likely to do when stoned!

For those newbies here, ask questions and read away.  If you have Ch or support someone who has it, there is great advise all over this place.  Weed just isn't an answer.
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