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Jan 13th, 2010 at 10:34pm
 
Ok the big question
how long can I take verapamil ?
I changed from predizon thank god I'm off that stuff
had to quit drinking Coors light one o those and a Kip 5 or better in 20 minutes
I love my beer and have found that corona dose not effect my ch
can anyone tell me why, chocolate dose too Sad
this all started in march and haven't ended a cycle yet
so woopee I gusse iam chronic
weed also helps me and yes I smoke a pack a day
so what now live with it or is there something else
I have done LSD but that was 16 years ago
I wouldn't even know were to look
dose it work I mean really work
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Reply #1 - Jan 13th, 2010 at 11:06pm
 
Dump the booze and the weed, dude. Despite what you're telling yourself, they aren't helping.
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Reply #2 - Jan 13th, 2010 at 11:13pm
 
You can take verapamil indefinetly if you can take the side effects and it works for you.  Dont know about your triggers everyone is different.  You are not chronic yet.  You have to have ch for a full year with less than a month pain free to be chronic.  But if the verapamil works for you (some take doses as high as 960mg.) I am happy!  I couldn't handle the side effects of dizzeness, shortness of breath,severe constipation etc.  Yes shrooms and LSD work.  I got 5 months free with no ch from shrooms.  I have heard that acid offers same results in small dosages.  Try the verapamil first.  If that doesn't work try lithium, topamax, elavil, zyprexa to name a few.  Oh yeah, get oxygen now.  It is a life saver!  No side effects as long as you don't light up around it.  Take melatonin at bedtime to sleep through night and get hit less often.  Drink red bull energy drink to abort ch.  It might help also.
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Reply #3 - Jan 14th, 2010 at 3:21am
 
Brew wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 11:06pm:
Dump the booze and the weed, dude. Despite what you're telling yourself, they aren't helping.



I like beer at least one after dinner
I sleep like a baby now and nap twice a week
So that green sh:: can't be all bad

I have slow release 320 mg
about 18 hours apart
works well if I don't strech the 18 hour mark
no disernable side affects about like 4 advile
and a DR PEPPER:) Cool
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Reply #4 - Jan 14th, 2010 at 3:31am
 
Iam 35 this month
I have 4 great kids
the smartest woman in the world
with a great rack, grates wife  
I love my job and
I think my boss genuinely likes
me
If it wasn't this crap I wouldn't have any thing to bitch
about
Is that normal or am I "out of my wigg"
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Reply #5 - Jan 14th, 2010 at 6:50am
 
Like Brew said, dump the weed and beer.  Those are triggers if you like it or not.

I'll even add the cigs, but I know that's easier said than done. 
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Reply #6 - Jan 14th, 2010 at 7:36am
 
Rationalization is the second strongest human drive.
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Reply #7 - Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:00am
 
clint432 wrote on Jan 14th, 2010 at 3:31am:
Iam 35 this month
IIf it wasn't this crap I wouldn't have any thing to bitch
about
Is that normal or am I "out of my wigg"
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Nothing to bitch about is abnormal for most.   Wink
Must be out of your wigg.
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Reply #8 - Jan 14th, 2010 at 8:13am
 
No fixed rule on taking it but many stop a month or so after the last attack.
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Headache. 2004 Nov;44(10):1013-8.   

Individualizing treatment with verapamil for cluster headache patients.

Blau JN, Engel HO.

    Background.-Verapamil is currently the best available prophylactic drug for patients experiencing cluster headaches (CHs). Published papers usually state 240 to 480 mg taken in three divided doses give good results, ranging from 50% to 80%; others mention higher doses-720, even 1200 mg per day. In clinical practice we found we needed to adapt dosage to individual's time of attacks, in particular giving higher doses before going to bed to suppress severe nocturnal episodes. A few only required 120 mg daily. We therefore evolved a scheme for steady and progressive drug increase until satisfactory control had been achieved. Objective.-To find the minimum dose of verapamil required to prevent episodic and chronic cluster headaches by supervising each individual and adjusting the dosage accordingly. Methods.-Consecutive patients with episodic or chronic CH (satisfying International Headache Society (IHS) criteria) were started on verapamil 40 mg in the morning, 80 mg early afternoon, and 80 mg before going to bed. Patients kept a diary of all attacks, recording times of onset, duration, and severity. They were advised, verbally and in writing, to add 40 mg verapamil on alternate days, depending on their attack timing: with nocturnal episodes the first increase was the evening dose and next the afternoon one; when attacks occurred on or soon after waking, we advised setting an alarm clock 2 hours before the usual waking time and then taking the medication. Patients were followed-up at weekly intervals until attacks were controlled. They were also reviewed when a cluster period had ended, and advised to continue on the same dose for a further 2 weeks before starting systematic reduction. Chronic cluster patients were reviewed as often as necessary. Results.-Seventy consecutive patients, 52 with episodic CH during cluster periods and 18 with chronic CH, were all treated with verapamil as above. Complete relief from headaches was obtained in 49 (94%) of 52 with episodic, and 10 (55%) of 18 with chronic CH; the majority needed 200 to 480 mg, but 9 in the episodic, and 3 in the chronic group, needed 520 to 960 mg for control. Ten, 2 in the episodic and 8 in the chronic group, with incomplete relief, required additional therapy-lithium, sumatriptan, or sodium valproate. One patient withdrew because verapamil made her too tired, another developed Stevens-Johnson syndrome, and the drug was withdrawn. Conclusions.-Providing the dosage for each individual is adequate, preventing CH with verapamil is highly effective, taken three (occasionally with higher doses, four) times a day. In the majority (94%) with episodic CH steady dose increase under supervision, totally suppressed attacks. However in the chronic variety only 55% were completely relieved, 69% men, but only 20% women. In both groups, for those with partial attack suppression, additional prophylactic drugs or acute treatment was necessary. (Headache 2004;44:1013-1018).
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