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travisk CH.com Newbie Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 24	energy drinks wow Feb 15^th, 2010 at 8:21am I feel like a moron. Ive getting beat down by these ch's for 7 months and all i needed was an energy drink. whoever figurede that out is my god. Started to get a ch last night could tell right away it would be bad just by the way it started but slammed a monster and it just went away in 5 min. ive never been so happy in my life
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #1 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 9:44am Like any other abortive treatment, be prepared for it not to work one day. You think energy drinks work? Try slamming one and then get on some high-flow oxygen through a non-rebreather mask...
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Guiseppi CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline San Diego to Florida 05-16-2011 Posts: 12063 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA Gender:	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #2 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 12:51pm Brew took the words from my mouth, energy drinks are a nice hand grenade, 02 is like going nuclear! Joe
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koctail CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 52	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #3 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 1:33pm just curious though as i am mainly a night time sufferer. how do u get back to sleep after slamming a monster energy drink?
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Reply #4 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 1:46pm

Tryin to get the o2 just happy to have somethin other than a hot shower to cope which never really stopped the pain just would mask it for a min till i got used to the heat. as far as the sleep issue drank my first one ever last night and was able to sleep about 30 min later but been some months since i really slept more than afew hours and that was always scared sleep and after drinking the monster i didnt have shadows or anything and still dont right now about 14 hours later havent been rid of those since the clusters started so livin a new life right now

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Reply #5 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 1:50pm

koctail wrote on Feb 15^th, 2010 at 1:33pm:

just curious though as i am mainly a night time sufferer. how do u get back to sleep after slamming a monster energy drink?

How do you get back to sleep knowing that you're going to bitch-slapped by another attack?

I'll take my chances if an energy drink is all I have available (I'd go the O2 route first).

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Reply #6 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 1:54pm

Brew wrote on Feb 15^th, 2010 at 1:50pm:

koctail wrote on Feb 15^th, 2010 at 1:33pm:

just curious though as i am mainly a night time sufferer. how do u get back to sleep after slamming a monster energy drink?

How do you get back to sleep knowing that you're going to bitch-slapped by another attack?

I'll take my chances if an energy drink is all I have available (I'd go the O2 route first).

Yep what Brew said. Don't try to get oxygen. Get oxygen.

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Reply #7 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 2:08pm

koctail wrote on Feb 15^th, 2010 at 1:33pm:

just curious though as i am mainly a night time sufferer. how do u get back to sleep after slamming a monster energy drink?

O2 is my weapon of choice - particularly at night. Losing sleep because of the energy drink only sets you up to be out of sorts the next night. Daytime I'll go to the Red Bull but not at 1am.

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Reply #8 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 3:41pm

koctail wrote on Feb 15^th, 2010 at 1:33pm:

just curious though as i am mainly a night time sufferer. how do u get back to sleep after slamming a monster energy drink?

When I don't have 02 available at night and I slam an energy drink I never have trouble with the caffeine keeping me up. It's almost like it knows where to go to fight the good fight!

My body, when in a tough cycle, is usually pretty tired to begin with. This is just my experience, though, and I know others who struggle with it keeping them up, so you'll need to try it in order to find out, I think.

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hez CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 26 Marshfield, WI Gender:	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #9 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 5:16pm My husband just started using the red bull. 1st time a kip 2. Pain got worse then the O2 killed it. 2nd time a kip 1. Pain went to a kip 10, O2 nothing. Had to go to the trex. Any one have any thoughts? Heather
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #10 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 5:23pm hez wrote on Feb 15^th, 2010 at 5:16pm: My husband just started using the red bull. 1st time a kip 2. Pain got worse then the O2 killed it. 2nd time a kip 1. Pain went to a kip 10, O2 nothing. Had to go to the trex. Any one have any thoughts? Heather What's his flow rate? Is he using a non-rebreather mask?
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hez CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 26 Marshfield, WI Gender:	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #11 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 5:25pm 15LPM yes
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Reply #12 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 5:32pm

Some people don't get any significant effect from O2 unless they're literally hyperventilating with it. That doesn't occur until a minimum flow rate of 25 lpm.

If 15 lpm is the highest his regulator goes, he might want to consider buying a higher flow regulator, or even a demand regulator (like scuba divers use). E-bay is a good place to start. None of this will be covered by insurance.

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hez CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 26 Marshfield, WI Gender:	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #13 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 5:41pm He was doing okay on the O2. It would kill the attack, but it would come back in five mins. It was suggested to try the redbull first and then the O2 to make the attack stay gone the first time on O2. So I wonder if the redbull is making it worse. Is there an adjustment period with the redbull? Heather
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Reply #14 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 5:48pm

Is he hypervenalating the O2? Does he empty the bag while breathing? Does he have the O2PTI mask available here? It's the best.

If he empties the bag he may need a higher flow regulator. The O2pti mask is a great help also. Check out the "oxygen info" link on the left of this screen. If you decide to get a higher regulator I got my 25lpm from Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to

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hez CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 26 Marshfield, WI Gender:	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #15 - Feb 16^th, 2010 at 5:23pm Okay, he said he is not emptying the bag. He woke to the pain at 3 this morning, did the O2 and it killed the attack. I think for him the redbull may not work. Any thoughts? Heather
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #16 - Feb 16^th, 2010 at 5:54pm Try slamming two of them.
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hez CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 26 Marshfield, WI Gender:	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #17 - Feb 16^th, 2010 at 6:05pm Slam two redbulls plus use O2? Heather
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #18 - Feb 16^th, 2010 at 6:07pm hez wrote on Feb 16^th, 2010 at 6:05pm: Slam two redbulls plus use O2? Heather Yes. Maybe slam the first one, get on the O2, then drink the second one in between breaths of oxygen. How big of a guy is he?
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hez CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 26 Marshfield, WI Gender:	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #19 - Feb 17^th, 2010 at 3:31pm He's 6' 220lbs.
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #20 - Feb 17^th, 2010 at 3:43pm Yeah, have him try draining two of 'em next time he gets hit. Get on the O2 as well.
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MattyAA CH.com Veteran Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 242 Poland, EU Gender:	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #21 - Feb 18^th, 2010 at 12:40am Perhaps he should try hyperventilating with O2, emptying whole bag for starters at 15lpm, try getting some cheap 25lpm regulator so he can try and see if hyperventilating will kill his every attack.
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LasVegas CH.com Sponsor Offline Episodic CH since 11 yrs old, now 50. Posts: 2020 north of the 60th parallel Gender:	Re: energy drinks wow Reply #22 - Feb 18^th, 2010 at 1:14am Guiseppi wrote on Feb 15^th, 2010 at 12:51pm: Brew took the words from my mouth, energy drinks are a nice hand grenade, 02 is like going nuclear! Joe I absolutely love this quote by Guiseppi
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Reply #23 - Feb 20^th, 2010 at 8:27pm

"I feel like a moron. Ive getting beat down by these ch's for 7 months and all i needed was an energy drink. whoever figurede that out is my god."

That's what I felt like when I found clusterbusters.com
The natural medicines have really helped me this past 1 1/2 years. I know there are a few issues, but wow what a difference.

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