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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	Re: Damnit~pics added Reply #26 - Feb 26^th, 2010 at 7:48pm Ok, now I see them, YUCK.
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Grandma_Sweet_Boy CH.com Alumnus Offline What Goes Around Comes Around! Posts: 4496 Georgetown,Ontario Gender:	Re: Damnit~pics added Reply #27 - Feb 26^th, 2010 at 7:56pm Carolyn - that's awful that you have to live anywhere near that. Please tell me that children did not live in that bloody hovel! Children's Aid need to be notified if there were little ones living there. I can't even imagine anyone living like that!
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deltadarlin CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 3823 Downsville LA Gender:	Re: Damnit~pics added Reply #28 - Feb 26^th, 2010 at 8:14pm There were kids in that trailer, don't now how many though. And kids live in at least one of the other trailers. I don't understand how humans can live like this.
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Peppermint CH.com Alumnus Offline Work it out baby! Posts: 2908 New York\|USA Gender:	Re: Damnit~pics added Reply #29 - Feb 26^th, 2010 at 8:29pm Wow that is truly gross. It's one thing to live with very limited means, but jeez, that is no way to live, much less with children. I hope this gets resolved soon for your sake, real shame when people don't care.
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Reply #30 - Feb 26^th, 2010 at 10:57pm

Carolyn I don't know what to say.

I'm totally shocked.

How anyone can accept this level of slovenliness is beyond my capacity to understand.

Human Beings have throughout time shown the capacity to write poetry, create art of a profound level, make music, write and engineer beautiful things.

Scientists have determined that only 1% of our DNA is different from our nearest relative the chimp.

After seeing this and similar examples of the litter slim that some of our fellow Humans leave behind, I can only surmise that some of us have not the degree of difference determined by our scientific community. My God... How can someone live this way?

I don't care how poor one is..at least you can be clean.

I've got to stop.

More than likely we're all paying for this in some fashion.

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Grinner62 CH.com Veteran Offline Posts: 131 Wichita Falls,Texas Gender:	Re: Damnit~pics added Reply #32 - Feb 26^th, 2010 at 11:42pm As much as I truly despise lawyers, perhaps a civil suit vs. Mary?
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deltadarlin CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 3823 Downsville LA Gender:	Re: Damnit~pics added Reply #34 - Feb 27^th, 2010 at 9:52am Unfortunately, a civil suit is out of the question. There's nothing to sue for. Creating an eyesore? Polluting the atmosphere (cant' prove it). Not only that, civil suits cost money and time, neither of which we have an abundance of.
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Grandma_Sweet_Boy CH.com Alumnus Offline What Goes Around Comes Around! Posts: 4496 Georgetown,Ontario Gender:	Re: Damnit~pics added Reply #35 - Feb 27^th, 2010 at 10:35am Could you call the Children's Aid which might then do something about the deplorable conditions children are living in. That might then start other investigations going.
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Reply #36 - Feb 27^th, 2010 at 10:58am

The people who lived in that first trailer (one with all the garbage) have moved. As to the others, I've actually seen worse when I worked for on a project for the NIH (national institute of health). As long as the kids are being fed, have a roof over their heads and are being sent to school in proper clothing and not being beaten or abused, CPS won't intervene. Living in filth is not against the law, unfortunately.

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Reply #37 - Feb 27^th, 2010 at 11:01am

After looking closely at the trash in the 1st. picture, I'd say there were 3 kids living there. A playpen for an infant, a boys bike for a kid around 8 or 9 and some plastic kids furniture for a small girl.

I've actually seen houses a lot worse than this in my time. Both in California and Kentucky. I will never understand why people are content to live in filth and squallor. Especially when they have children. This had nothing what-so-ever to do with poverty in my opinion. It's how THEY were raised or how much drugs they're using, and plain laziness.

I hope the parents screw up and dosomething illegal so some agency can take those kids away from there.

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deltadarlin CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 3823 Downsville LA Gender:	Re: Damnit~pics added Reply #38 - Feb 27^th, 2010 at 2:15pm There is noone living in that first trailer any more (the one with all the garbage).
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NancyB CH.com Veteran Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 169	Re: Damnit~pics added Reply #39 - Feb 27^th, 2010 at 2:48pm Maybe you're going about this the wrong way. See if the CDC can help. The raw sewage has got to be a health hazard, plus they're federal and the DA has nothing to say about it.
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deltadarlin CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 3823 Downsville LA Gender:	Re: Damnit~pics added Reply #40 - Feb 27^th, 2010 at 3:26pm Nancy, Do you even know what CDC does and how they do it? I'm sorry, CDC would not even think about this. This is a local problem and DEQ will either handle it or I will go to my Senator/Reps about it.
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cavalier Ex Member	Re: Damnit~pics added Reply #42 - Feb 27^th, 2010 at 8:19pm Carolyn If you can't deal with it yourselves, a hitman may only cost a few quid for a triffling dollar or two for a bit of heavy threatening The authorites never come down quick enough on these louts and are never strong enough when they do.
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Reply #43 - Feb 28^th, 2010 at 9:50am

Actually I do know what the CDC does. We had them here locally when the water in a small subdivision here was contaminated by sewage water. The local government would do nothing so a friend of mine reported to the CDC. Raw sewage in the water supply is asking for dysentary and a host of other very bad things- just ask the folks in Haiti and New Orleans.

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Reply #44 - Feb 28^th, 2010 at 12:25pm

Look I'm not trying to cause an argument here. What I'm trying to say, is as awful as it is to look at and breathe, the sewage is probably what you're going to get action on. That is not a local problem. If your on a well system you need to get you're water tested to make sure it hasn't been contaminated. Everyone down stream from you is at risk of getting sick, from kids just playing in a puddle to someones well water. Wishing you well and hope you get some action soon!

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Reply #45 - Feb 28^th, 2010 at 4:13pm

Sorry, but the sewage is not the main issue, that is a local issue and would have to be handled by the local/state authorities. To be quite honest, the open sewage does not directly affect me. We are on a community well system and it is not possible for the sewage to contaminate the water.

The toxins released by them burning crap is much more of a concern to me. Some of the toxins released by the crap they are burning include, dioxin, phosgene (used in chemical weapons in WW II), furans, and benzopyrenes to name a few.

As to the CDC. They cannot and will not become involved in anything to do at the local or state level unless their assistance is requested by an agency. They have no regulatory or enforcement powers (advisory only). CDC's main involvement after Katrina was with the SNS(strategic national stockpile) and after the state took control, they were no longer invovled. My husband, has almost 30 years with the public health agency in Louisiana and emergency services (he spent months in Baton Rouge after Katrina). He has contacts with the CDC and we already know they can't/won't become inolved.

I went outside to take pictures of the Wolf Moon and had to come back in because of the acrid smoke (actually burned my nose and made my head hurt). Later, the smoke was thicker and you could see it in a about 5 feet off the ground.

Adding insult to injury, these are some of the pics that Jimbo took last night on his way home.

Wonder when they will start burning the tires? And look at al that lovely stuff, just waiting to be thrown on the burn pile!

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Grandma_Sweet_Boy CH.com Alumnus Offline What Goes Around Comes Around! Posts: 4496 Georgetown,Ontario Gender:	Re: Damnit~pics added~new ones! Reply #46 - Feb 28^th, 2010 at 4:47pm Carolyn - are there no laws against burning stuff like that? It would require a burn permit in most areas here. It's horrible that they can do all of this and your hands are so tied.
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Langa CH.com Alumnus Offline So many donuts, such little time... Posts: 4754 x0\|\|USA\|usa\|0\|0\|NJ,New_Jersey Gender:	Re: Damnit~pics added~new ones! Reply #47 - Feb 28^th, 2010 at 7:49pm Did you mention they have kids? Maybe CPS would help... Langa
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Reply #48 - Feb 28^th, 2010 at 7:54pm

Unfortunately, there are no restrictions, per se. The biggest thing is that they are burning what would be considered *non-household* items. Burning garbage is a bit of a health hazard as it is, but when you throw all the other crap on top of it, you have a bigger problem.

I'm hoping that everything adds up enough to get somebody to do something. If we haven't heard anything in a few weeks, I'll be on the phone to my senator/representatives.

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Jackie CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Go For It!!! Posts: 5903 Goshen, IN Gender:	Re: Damnit~pics added~new ones! Reply #49 - Mar 1^st, 2010 at 6:20am That is totally disgusting!!! I'm betting you and Jimbo get something figured out to get this slum cleaned up.
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