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May 4th, 2010 at 1:13pm
 
I found 3 vehicles I'm interested in getting for a daily driver.  A 2000 Toyota Avalon with 109,000 miles, a 2002 Hyundai Elantra GLS with 97,6000 miles, a 2000 Hyundai Elantra Wagon with 110,000 miles (5spd) and a 1997 Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT wagon with 131,000 miles.  I am trying to figure out which one I'd be able to put at least 75,000-100,000 more miles on before it'd need any major mechanical fixes (i.e. engine overhaul).

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Reply #1 - May 4th, 2010 at 1:41pm
 
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Reply #2 - May 4th, 2010 at 2:16pm
 
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I dunno, Mel, even with all the bad press about Toyota, I think the Avalon would be my choice for reliability. My daughter traded in her Toyota Camry with 210,000 miles on it.. got $3,000. in trade in....still looked great, too!
My son has his 2nd Hyundai, both purchased new, both pretty reliable, but it was falling apart after 80K miles.
Oregon is  touted to be'Subaru" country.....haven't really been interested........

All in all, It's a great time to wheel n deal. go for it!!

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Reply #3 - May 4th, 2010 at 2:23pm
 
Obviously all are high mileage. My wife and daughter both drive Camry's. One is almost 10 years old one is 7 years old. I have not had a lick of trouble with either. My vote would be the toyota.

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Reply #4 - May 4th, 2010 at 2:23pm
 
Cathi, I hear ya.  I probably will end up getting the Avalon just due to the realiability alone.  My old 2000 Corolla, which is now Jesse's work car, had 70,000 when I bought it 6 years ago.  It now has 180,000 and is still ticking just fine.

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Reply #5 - May 4th, 2010 at 3:40pm
 
Subaru.  Get them to fix any oil leaks it has, and replace the timing belt (if it hasn't already been done.)  Then you should be good to go.

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Reply #6 - May 4th, 2010 at 5:39pm
 
My best friend is a Toyota mechanic at a dealer and has been for like 30 years now and swears by Toyota and they just keep going as long as you change the oil when they need it. Myself I drive a 95 Toyota T100 4X4 and it is just about to turn 200k and has never been rebuilt or had a problem, really wish American cars could be as dependable.
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Reply #7 - May 4th, 2010 at 5:42pm
 
BigMatt wrote on May 4th, 2010 at 5:39pm:
really wish American cars could be as dependable.

So do I!  And it frustrates me when I ask some friends what they think and one of them just has to pipe up and say "buy American".  Well I would if they were built better!  Not big huge freakin tanks.  That size was gone with the 1900's, ya know?
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Reply #8 - May 4th, 2010 at 7:37pm
 
I'd go with the Toyota. From all I've seen and read about Hyundai I'd stay far far away from them. Unless there's cute mechanic at the Hyundai store you'd like to see more (alot) of.
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Reply #10 - May 4th, 2010 at 10:08pm
 
Toyota Avalon. nice car. Frankly I'd drive that and give the other driver yours or Jesse's car! It's a step up from the Camry.
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Reply #11 - May 5th, 2010 at 8:49am
 
Well, buying Toyota doesn't necessarily mean *foreign*.  Just ask all those workers in Huntsville, Alabama; Georgetown, Kentucky; Princeton, Indiana; San Antonio, Texas; Buffalo, West Virginia.
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Reply #12 - May 5th, 2010 at 9:18am
 
deltadarlin wrote on May 5th, 2010 at 8:49am:
Well, buying Toyota doesn't necessarily mean *foreign*.  Just ask all those workers in Huntsville, Alabama; Georgetown, Kentucky; Princeton, Indiana; San Antonio, Texas; Buffalo, West Virginia.

Oh I know!  I was going to explain that they are manufactured here, but this lady has tunnel vision, so I let it go. Lips Sealed

Anyway, hoping that life aligns pretty soon in order to go see it (1.5 hr drive), but Jesse's on 3rd shift, he's working on a side job this week as well, he needs to plant the 2000 trees he ordered and I have a garage sale this weekend.

Sometimes I wish there were 2 of me. Embarrassed
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Reply #13 - May 5th, 2010 at 12:05pm
 
   To prove a car was made in the U.S.A. the VIN will start with 1, 4 or 5. People are surprised that their American brand car is actually made some where else.

    I feel for you. I have been looking for a truck for a while. My price range and that I am looking for a '95 or older doesn't help.

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Reply #14 - May 5th, 2010 at 6:44pm
 
It is sad that the Toyota’s are made more in the US than say Fords. I have been told that most Fords are built in Canada and in Mexico, maybe if American cars where, let’s see, I don’t know maybe made by Americans in America they would be better and more reliable? We really need to stop outsourcing things to other countries and make out own stuff here and get the pride back in made in America, I would even be willing to pay more for it if I knew it was good and that it was made right here in the good old USA.
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Reply #15 - May 5th, 2010 at 7:33pm
 
Well, for the most part, my Buick Century was made in Canada.  I have over 180,000 miles on it and (knock on wood), have never had any problem with it and I get decent gas mileage to boot (especially if I keep my foot out of the engine).
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BigMatt wrote on May 5th, 2010 at 6:44pm:
It is sad that the Toyota’s are made more in the US than say Fords. I have been told that most Fords are built in Canada and in Mexico, maybe if American cars where, let’s see, I don’t know maybe made by Americans in America they would be better and more reliable? We really need to stop outsourcing things to other countries and make out own stuff here and get the pride back in made in America, I would even be willing to pay more for it if I knew it was good and that it was made right here in the good old USA.

Business 101 - maximize returns for shareholders. If the cost of doing business was the same or less here in America, the work wouldn't be jobbed out over the border.

Now why would it cost more to manufacture, assemble, etc. here in the USA? Could it be out of whack union contracts? A general lack of tax incentives to keep the work here? Getting "the pride back in made in America" is not one of the reasons businesses list as a top priority. Making money is. But that's now a mortal sin.

Who recently said, "I do think, at a certain point you've made enough money."
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Reply #17 - May 8th, 2010 at 1:01pm
 
Well, checked out all 3 and no dice.

I have my eye on 2 Honda Accord's and one Civic on Craigslist right now.  Trying to get more details so I can then go and look at them.

Can't wait till I find a car already! Tongue
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Reply #18 - May 8th, 2010 at 1:16pm
 
For high milage vehicles I'd go with the Toyota.
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Reply #19 - May 8th, 2010 at 1:30pm
 
I found a '96 Corolla with 129k for $2950.  Jesse probably doesn't want me to get something that old though, but I don't mind!
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BigMatt wrote on May 4th, 2010 at 5:39pm:
My best friend is a Toyota mechanic at a dealer and has been for like 30 years now and swears by Toyota and they just keep going as long as you change the oil when they need it. Myself I drive a 95 Toyota T100 4X4 and it is just about to turn 200k and has never been rebuilt or had a problem, really wish American cars could be as dependable.

i was a toyota mechanic and i second what matt said. i would put toyota up against any car manufacturer in the world period. they are easy to work on and seldom need anything done. if you were to look under matts truck you'd notice that it has straight front axle similar to my 78 f-150 4x4 as opposed to an independent front suspension used by american truck manufacturers nowadays.

when i worked at the dealer there were 5 camrys that came in for service with high miles.
1992 camry v6 560,000 miles
1994 camry 4 cyl 750,000 miles
1995 camry v6 470,000 miles
1998 camry v6 380,000 miles
1996 camry 4cyl 620,000 miles

all of these cars were in very good condition. no rust no upholstery problems. the only indication that  any of these cars had that kinda mileage was the drivers seat was broke down a little bit were your ass sat and the pedals were slightly worn. you could pull up the history on any of these cars. nothing more would come up other than gaskets, seals, a few brake jobs, and alot of fluid and filter changes.

as for subaru. probably a little fuel mileage. very durable but high labor hours to fix and part cost a little more.

i personally have own a honda prelude for years. honda makes a great car but i dont think they are good in the snow. they are built well but they are very light.

a toyota would be a good car to get around in up there in Wisconsin.  they hold up good to pot holes and they get through the snow pretty good.

for the love of god stay away from fords and chevys
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I have it narrowed down now to a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord.  I have a bunch printed out that are scattered all over the state, but Jesse's going to help me pick out ones that'd be worth the drive.  I just wish one would pop out at me to tell me "that's the one!".  I've had that feeling with every vehicle I've ever bought, so this is very frustrating to me!! Tongue
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I vote Toyota.  We're a two Toyota family.
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Reply #23 - May 10th, 2010 at 2:05am
 
when i bought my 1970 ford truck i saw it and i fell in love. the engine knocked and smoked and the the transmission shifted and slipped badly. price was $200. mom asked why i bought such a piece of shit home. i sent the trans out to my buddy and i took the engine apart had all the parts hot tanked and i put it all back together. i invested about $2k. that was 15 years ago. it's sitting out in the driveway right now. i used the last 4 winters to haul in firewood and i used it yesterday to pull my tractor out of the mud. granted it has a 390 cubic in engine and it gets about 11 miles to the gallon none the less when its 20 below and i need a truck it absolutely will start and i will get things that day......as long as it doesn't run out of gas.

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Reply #24 - May 10th, 2010 at 8:05am
 
Johnny, that's how I felt when I found my Corolla (which is now Jesse's work car).  The dealership had the wrong price on their website and when I brought them the printout, they honored it (was about $1500 less than what they really wanted).  It had 70,000 miles on it then and now has 184,000.  Still going great!  It does need an alignment though and I've been on hubby's butt to get it in, so I think I just might take it in myself and have them do it without him knowing, lol.

I'd love a Camry, but they're a bit scarce up here so we have to drive a ways to find one.  My budget is less than $5000 and I don't want one with more than 150,000 miles on it. 

I'm sure it'll pop out at me eventually!
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