My last random hit came when I was grilling steaks.  As soon as I opened the grille and the smoke hit my face I was in instant ch hell.

Hiking in the heat is also a trigger.

The only alcohol I think is a trigger for me is red wine (always) and beer (sometimes).

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except Ruthie isn't a clusterhead.

This is too funny.   

Being chronic, I have no triggers.   Most of us do not. 

Brew wrote on Jul 29^th, 2010 at 8:42pm:

Cheers!

Anything with nitrates (hot dogs, bacon)
Cheap perfume (especially ones with patchouli!)
Concentrated tomato products (like tomato sauce)
Stress
Alcohol (only sometimes, and I can tell by the way my body's chemistry "feels" at a particular time)
WD-40

jon019 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2010 at 8:31pm:

Excellently Put Jon! 

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no pls don't say things i never said.ch shite?it took me a while to translate this.
pls dont project your thoughts as if it were mine.
My suprise is clear enough.i always thought that what applies for chronics it's the same for episodics and vise versa.And i mean that there are triggers for both despite if we are wrong on what and which they really are.
for istance for myself alcohol has a very high probability and maybe weather without knowing exactly how.
Now it has crossed my mind that in a longer extent of time maybe as chronic ch in my case has low and high cycles within the extent time of a year(worser in winter time and cold and better in the summer,especially when the weather is stable for a while).Of course i have a big question of all these but since i can't do anything with the weather and the only trigger i ve recognised is alcohol i quit it years ago.But still getting hit and as an automatic response i am looking for the trigger.
But it's the fisrt time i read here that chronics don't have any triggers and in a generalization without the contribution of the personal experience.

and so my question which came up is simple.
should i start drinking a beer from time to time as i used to as a social drinker?
will it make my hits worser in intensity and frequency within the times of drinking or doesn't matter as there is no trigger for the chronics as it is suggested?

black wrote on Jul 30^th, 2010 at 9:15pm:


ok...I'm real tired and foggy brained, but I'll give it a shot....

was episodic for 24 years...many of the "typical" triggers...alcohol, msg, aspartame, tomatoes, barometric pressure changes, solvents, perfumes, welding fumes, missed meals, changes in routine, changes in sleep habits, travel, coming down from stress, et al....

with the exception of msg/aspartame (which I am convinced not only triggered hits but sometimes a cycle too)...none were a problem OUT of cycle....

now.... as a chronic (4 1/2 yrs)...I find that most are not a problem (I do avoid msg/aspartame ALWAYS)...I only really have to worry about alcohol when in a high cycle within the "always" cycle. That is, while usually getting hit every day, it's not because of alcohol (in a low cycle). Sorry if this doesn't make sense...but then neither does ch.

I can expalin further if this is confusing...

BTW...I am still interested in hearing the answer to my original question...

Best,

Jon

Hello, great post

1) Setting the clocks back 1 hour in the fall
2) short naps
3 anything vanilla
4 Bleach or any mildew cleaner
5 penicillin
6 Energy saver light bulbs (in cycle)
7 Nite driving in the rain (in cycle)
8 orange juice   (in cycle)
9 when a storm moves in. ( cold front )
10 extreme crying.. (grieving)
And last but not least... THE MOTHER IN LAW!!!!

  Thanks, Coach Bill

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the whole way to read it is to read the
triggers too and the words patients and sufferers.just.which means all?

as for the original question i say i dont understand it and as for this we are having this conversation.
i wasn't ever episodic so i can't just apply a generalization non based.it just came out of the blue in my opinion and wasn't even aware of it even if i spend a lot of reading here.I never came up with this coclusion
though i am interested in others opinion on this too if this they think apply for themselves too.

sorry jon

pf wishes

After about 25 years, I have to say NOTHING triggers a cycle for me that I can be certain of...however, when I am in cycle, I have many triggers!  Puppies, cold, hot, mold, dust, tea, blood pressure changes, dark chocolate, contacts, oh...I could go on and on.

The one exception to NOTHING is a medication change, but I assumed that goes without saying. 

Over the years, I have had serious stressors,  litters of puppies, occasional wine, work overload, kids, deaths, sleepless nights, allergies, etc...but there has never been a time any of these consistently caused a cycle.  It may have happened a few times coincidentally, but then not at other times.  I can see where it would be easy to blame certain incidents, but it would have to be more consistent.

I have had them twice a year, once a year, and skipped years...all while living the same way and doing the same things...good times and bad.  I have kept meticulous calendars of them and have found no correlation... they come when they come.  Once I start a cycle, then they are very predictable...always 8 weeks and certain times of the day lasting no less than 60 minutes and no longer than 90 minutes with the usual constant fog, soreness, and stiff neck in between.

I do wish I thought there was a trigger...then I could avoid it!