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duffield1 CH.com Newbie Offline Cluster headaches spoiled my bacon sandwich. Posts: 10 Selby, UK Gender:	Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan? Oct 1^st, 2010 at 9:23am I've just swapped over to injectible sumitriptan rather than the nasal spray, but where is the best place to inject? The leaflet says in the thigh, but I'm a pretty tall bloke - surely it would make sense to inject it somewhere closer to my head? (And please, no jokes about injecting it in my bum!)
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Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan?
Reply #1 - Oct 1^st, 2010 at 9:36am

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lennycohen CH.com Junior Offline Posts: 61 Clemmons, NC Gender:	Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan? Reply #2 - Oct 3^rd, 2010 at 7:36pm I always went for the thigh - but I''m short . I was always too chicken to do my arm - not enough padding, and I thought it would go intramuscular. I've heard of people using it off-lable into their belly, maybe a couple of inches from the navel, just get a good pinch and go.
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Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan?
Reply #3 - Oct 3^rd, 2010 at 8:40pm

I've tried 'em all, and the best place IMO is the abdomen. I found out about it here.

Pinch a little belly to the side of the navel, inject there, and you will have found the easiest spot (it's right there in front of you!). it's a practically painlees injection site also.

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Strictly relying on doctors for CH treatment is often a prescription that will keep you in a whole lot of PAIN. Doctors are WAY behind in many respects, and they are usually completely unaware of the benefits of high flow 100% O2.

There are lots of effective treatments documented at this site. Take matters into your own hands, learn as much as you can here and at clusterbusters.com, put it into practice, then tell this CH beast Jeebs said hello right before you bash him so hard with a swift uppercut knockout punch that his stupid horns go flinging right off.

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Headache Boy uk CH.com Old Timer Offline Matthew ch 11 v 28 Posts: 373 Mersea Island nr Colchester Gender:	Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan? Reply #4 - Oct 3^rd, 2010 at 8:48pm In the bath-room No but seriously I can't pinch a bit of belly so I go for the thigh, some times it hurts a bit some times it don't hurt at all. God bless Nigel
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Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan?
Reply #5 - Oct 4^th, 2010 at 12:21am

Thigh, arm, belly, calf and a$$ used them all!!! I use thigh
the most but if I'm in public and need a shot and it's cold, the
thigh and @$$ are out so that leaves the arm or calf. Don't
worry about how close to the brain your shooting it! it is a
matter of seconds at best! don't think that it matters. Count
one, ok that may be all the difference! If even that.

Peace,
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Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan?
Reply #6 - Oct 4^th, 2010 at 6:04am

Thanks, all. I've found that the injections are not as effective for me as the nasal spray, but at least you don't get that vile taste in your mouth for hours afterwards.

I've done thigh and bum cheek so far - bum worked better (as in offered more relief) than thigh, but I'll try my belly. What a great excuse to keep eating cake - I need to be able to pinch more than an inch.

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clavers CH.com Veteran Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 142	Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan? Reply #7 - Oct 5^th, 2010 at 9:40am the soft part of your forearm. It it the first flesh that you can reach and works twice as fast as the thigh.
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duffield1 CH.com Newbie Offline Cluster headaches spoiled my bacon sandwich. Posts: 10 Selby, UK Gender:	Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan? Reply #8 - Oct 5^th, 2010 at 10:37am I've prodded and poked, but I don't seem to have a soft part on my forearm...
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JustNotRight CH.com Sponsor Offline CH version 15.0.8 member since 2005 aka GingerS224 Posts: 1300 Wilkes-Barre, Pa (USA) Gender:	Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan? Reply #9 - Oct 5^th, 2010 at 5:08pm Thigh works, to get it going faster inject and take a vigorous walk around for a few min. also having a cup of coffee after injection may help it take affect faster.
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Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan?
Reply #10 - Oct 6^th, 2010 at 10:31am

I tried the injection in my belly last night, and have to say it worked a treat! It worked quickly (and without leaving a shadow, which had remained after each thigh injection) and was literally completely painless - I wasn't actually sure if it had injected at all. And no blood, either, so I didn't have messy pyjamas!

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clavers CH.com Veteran Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 142	Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan? Reply #11 - Oct 7^th, 2010 at 9:31am The inner part of your forearm, the part that is on the same side as the palm of your hand. If you are lucky enough to hit a vein, the pain will be over in a minute, but the hair on the back of your head will stand up.
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Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan?
Reply #12 - Oct 7^th, 2010 at 12:20pm

No, No not suppose to shoot a vein!!! Not good!!!! Sub-Q is
just under skin. Vein is too much for heart.

Anywhere you have some meat is good! Belly, thigh, butt,
upper arm I have done it on calf in times of need. Don't
worry it will get there. The pain will go, just takes a few
minutes no matter where you shoot it. But JUST SAY NO to
the Veins PLEASE!!!!!! Cheesy

Stat injector hurts because of the gauge of needle, speed
of injection plus the air in the tank. If you can get the vials
and needles separately much less pain at injection site

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JustNotRight CH.com Sponsor Offline CH version 15.0.8 member since 2005 aka GingerS224 Posts: 1300 Wilkes-Barre, Pa (USA) Gender:	Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan? Reply #13 - Oct 7^th, 2010 at 4:15pm boski wrote on Oct 7^th, 2010 at 12:20pm: No, No not suppose to shot a vein!!! Not good!!!! Sub-Q is just under skin. Vein is too much for heart. Worth Repeating!!
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Redd CH.com Sponsor Offline Posts: 8457 Stevens Point USA Wisconsin Gender:	Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan? Reply #14 - Oct 9^th, 2010 at 10:36am Stay with using the belly fat. It's easy to get to.
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Mike NZ CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Oxygen rocks! D3 too! Posts: 3785 Auckland, New Zealand Gender:	Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan? Reply #15 - Oct 9^th, 2010 at 3:33pm Redd wrote on Oct 9^th, 2010 at 10:36am: Stay with using the belly fat. It's easy to get to. Is this a good excuse I can use when eating that extra slice of cake or bar of chocolate that I'm doing it for medical reasons?
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Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan?
Reply #16 - Oct 9^th, 2010 at 10:25pm

duffield1 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2010 at 10:31am:

I tried the injection in my belly last night, and have to say it worked a treat! It worked quickly (and without leaving a shadow, which had remained after each thigh injection) and was literally completely painless - I wasn't actually sure if it had injected at all. And no blood, either, so I didn't have messy pyjamas!

NOW we're gettin' somewhere!

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CH according to Bejeeber:

Strictly relying on doctors for CH treatment is often a prescription that will keep you in a whole lot of PAIN. Doctors are WAY behind in many respects, and they are usually completely unaware of the benefits of high flow 100% O2.

There are lots of effective treatments documented at this site. Take matters into your own hands, learn as much as you can here and at clusterbusters.com, put it into practice, then tell this CH beast Jeebs said hello right before you bash him so hard with a swift uppercut knockout punch that his stupid horns go flinging right off.

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Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan?
Reply #17 - Oct 12^th, 2010 at 2:49am

Hi all, first time poster, long time sufferer, only diagnosed towards the end of my last-but-one cycle, fresh cycle just starting.

I've been given these sumatriptan 6mg injection packs, and did my first one in the thigh a few days ago... I don't have much fat there and when I took out the needle most of it got spit straight back out again in the form of very runny blood. It still got rid of my cluster, though not as fast as I'd been hoping after reading about sumatriptan... took about 5-6 minutes til I started to notice any reduction in pain, maybe 10 to get rid of the cluster.

Well, I've just done my 2nd one ever, after the beast woke me from sleep. This time I did it in my bumcheek instead. No runny blood flowing out afterwards this time, I definitely got the whole dose.

The cluster vanished in less than a minute this time, but it feels like my blood in my head is mixed with aviation fuel or chilli sauce or something, and there seems to be a small lag in between my brain telling my eyes or fingers what to do, and it actually happening. My typing is down to about a quarter my normal speed. In fact my thinking feels like it is down to about quarter speed too. Everything's in slow motion. I'm glad I don't have to operate any heavy machinery. Read this at about 1 syllable per second and you'll be receiving it at the speed I'm thinking/typing it. Shocked

Had to sign up to share this with fellow sufferers. Cheesy

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clavers CH.com Veteran Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 142	Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan? Reply #18 - Oct 12^th, 2010 at 9:24am I didn't mean that you deliberately hit a vein, but when you stick the thing in anywhere there is a chance that you will do that. When it happens, and it eventually will, the CH ends immediately.
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Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan?
Reply #19 - Oct 12^th, 2010 at 12:11pm

just a hint about the nasal spray,if you taste it for hours afterwards your not using it right.When using the spray just a quick short sniff is needed not a SNORT. It needs to stay in your nose not your throat. If you keep it in your nose it gets to the beast faster and doesn't have to go thru your digestive system. If your nose starts to run, short LIGHT SNIFFS will do. The spray is my abortive and I seldom get that taste you speak of. I abort within 3to5 mins. with the spray.

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Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan?
Reply #20 - Oct 12^th, 2010 at 6:14pm

Hello musophill

Welcome to the board

Imitrex will give you strange feelings for about half an hour after the shot. If you have problems with the stuff coming back out a gain keep the needle in a bit longer, and if you use the thigh it gets to work mush quicker if you walk about straight after the injection.

Not that I've tried it yet but have a look at the imitrex tip ( link to the left <<<< ) because you only need half to a third of the stat dose to kill a CH attack.

God bless

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Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan?
Reply #21 - Oct 12^th, 2010 at 7:22pm

mikstudie wrote on Oct 12^th, 2010 at 12:11pm:

just a hint about the nasal spray,if you taste it for hours afterwards your not using it right.When using the spray just a quick short sniff is needed not a SNORT. It needs to stay in your nose not your throat. If you keep it in your nose it gets to the beast faster and doesn't have to go thru your digestive system. If your nose starts to run, short LIGHT SNIFFS will do. The spray is my abortive and I seldom get that taste you speak of. I abort within 3to5 mins. with the spray.

Thanks - you mentioned this on another thread a while ago and you are so right!! I use to do the biggest snort because I wanted it work NOW but man the taste - even into the next day, YUCK. Now I just do a little snort, enough to get it into my nose - not down the back of my throat Roll Eyes

and it works just as well.

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Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan?
Reply #22 - Oct 13^th, 2010 at 12:26am

Headache Boy uk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2010 at 6:14pm:

Hello musophill

Welcome to the board

Imitrex will give you strange feelings for about half an hour after the shot. If you have problems with the stuff coming back out a gain keep the needle in a bit longer, and if you use the thigh it gets to work mush quicker if you walk about straight after the injection.

Not that I've tried it yet but have a look at the imitrex tip ( link to the left <<<< ) because you only need half to a third of the stat dose to kill a CH attack.

God bless

Nigel

I have used less! And it works for you misers out there like
me! I Keep trying less and it works, takes a little longer. I
get 5 - 7 hits from a 6ml vial. Much better than one hit per!

Boski!

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clavers CH.com Veteran Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 142	Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan? Reply #23 - Oct 13^th, 2010 at 3:17pm I don't use this crap anymore, I used to but don't now. Instead I have found that RC seeds work great, and rather than being abortives are preventives. I resisted doing this for a long time, but when I finally tried them I couldn't believe how effective they were.
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Re: Where is the best place to inject sumitriptan?
Reply #24 - Oct 15^th, 2010 at 3:15pm

duffield1 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2010 at 10:31am:

I tried the injection in my belly last night, and have to say it worked a treat! It worked quickly (and without leaving a shadow, which had remained after each thigh injection) and was literally completely painless - I wasn't actually sure if it had injected at all. And no blood, either, so I didn't have messy pyjamas!

So in ur belly hurts less then thigh? I wouldt say the thigh hufts, but the feeling is kinda unpleasant. Might try my belly next time.

U think its smart to do so? Im a kinda skinny guy.

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