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Re: Oxygen + sex
Reply #25 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 6:48pm

Agostino Leyre wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 6:41pm:

Really the idea behind part of the technique is very similar to Charlie's blood flow redirection excercise. It's not really a "sex" thing, more of a blood flow thing, plus the endophine release could possibly be beneficial.

Any links? I've tried looking up this exercise, but couldn't find anything.
From what I experience it feels like it's more about the endorphin shot than the blood flow (although they probably both count), but that's just my guess.

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Reply #27 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 7:05pm

Agostino Leyre wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 6:53pm:

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Funny thing is, to me it feels like I get MORE blood in my head while doing my 'exercise' - go figure... They might not work the same way, especially since he doesn't mention oxygen as intensifier anywhere.
As a side note, mine is probably easier to perform.

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his wife CH.com Old Timer Offline The sweetest sound is my children's laughter Posts: 271	Re: Oxygen + sex Reply #28 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 7:28pm I am glad this works for some folks..whatever it takes, right? I just know what hubby is like during a hit, especially a K8, 9, or god-forbid 10 and I can't even imagine getting the "colonel" to stand at attention, let alone fire off a 21 gun salute. If it works for you go for it, thanks for sharing...maybe it will help others.
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Re: Oxygen + sex
Reply #30 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 8:28pm

...am reminded of Robin Williams (FIRST there was Richard Pryor, then George Carlin, then Robin...)

"See, the problem is that God gives men a brain and a penis, and only enough blood to run one at a time."

...and Sandy...it's one cut off at the bicep.

...and Potter....a valid point AND a joke all-in-one...it don't get any better than that Grin

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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: Oxygen + sex Reply #31 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 8:47pm Quote: (FIRST there was Richard Pryor, then George Carlin, then Robin...) But before that was Jonathan Winters.
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jon019 CH.com Alumnus Offline "Ya gotta believe!" Posts: 1656 USA Gender:	Re: Oxygen + sex Reply #32 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 9:53pm I am humbled by your good taste Brew...Jonathan goes in there....definitely! (Bill Cosby too)....used to listen to Jonathan's routines on Canadian radio (lucky to be near the border) when I was in "short sleeves"...
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Re: Oxygen + sex
Reply #34 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 4:34pm

his wife wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 7:28pm:

I am glad this works for some folks..whatever it takes, right? I just know what hubby is like during a hit, especially a K8, 9, or god-forbid 10 and I can't even imagine getting the "colonel" to stand at attention, let alone fire off a 21 gun salute.

If it works for you go for it, thanks for sharing...maybe it will help others.

Of course it would be ridiculous to think you could try this method at that pain level. I am fortunate enough to not have had a 9 or 10 since I got off of imitrex.

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Reply #35 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 6:49pm

akage wrote on Jan 4^th, 2011 at 6:57pm:

As a clusterhead I've been experimenting with different approaches to the pain from the very beginning - which I believe is pretty normal for most of us

Over the time I have developed a few methods that have a certain effect of lowering pain a few KIP points down for me, though most of them are unfortunately not very consistent. The method I'm describing here however has been effective in both making the pain more bearable and the attacks shorter, and has been working every time so far for me.
From what I remember from the old posts there have been some discussions of sex as an abortive, though the results were quite limited. This never worked for me as well. What I have tried and found working is a modification of the approach, i.e. sex WHILE breathing oxygen.
Since I don't think it would be efficient to do this with a partner (not to mention stress and other things), the approach is to masturbate while breathing oxygen. The general idea for men is to either:

1. Keep arousal as high as possible (bordering on orgasm) without ejaculation, or
2. Allow ejaculation, but continue to masturbate (usually possible using a masturbator sleeve).

Which method is better is up to the individual.
I obviously don't know how this works for women, but if it does, it may be easier given that most can have an orgasm multiple times in a row.

I'd usually combine this approach with hyperventilation (as hyperventilation is more effective, but can be painful and tiring), but it's faring well on its own as well.

I'm pretty sure it might be too bizarre for some people to even think about this, let alone try it, but the very nature of our condition is such that I'd be happy if the method brought some additional relief to even one other person; so I can't really keep it to myself. Hope someone finds this useful.

I don't see anywhere in the post where a certain pain level was mentioned. Therefore, assumed that it could be tried at any pain level. Hence my post. Certainly wouldn't work for us, but as mentioned, glad it works for others.

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Re: Oxygen + sex
Reply #36 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 7:40pm

his wife wrote on Jan 6^th, 2011 at 6:49pm:

I don't see anywhere in the post where a certain pain level was mentioned. Therefore, assumed that it could be tried at any pain level. Hence my post. Certainly wouldn't work for us, but as mentioned, glad it works for others.

Well, one thing is if it's effective at KIP 10, but the other one is if you're able to do it despite the pain. I believe the method to be effective at KIP 10 if the person can manage it with such amount of pain (which can be hard). It can also be introduced after the oxygen starts to work and reduces the pain to a manageable level.

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AussieBrian CH.com Hall of Famer Offline CH - It's all in your head! Posts: 3851 Cairns, Qld, Australia Gender:	Re: Oxygen + sex Reply #37 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 7:49pm Glad it works for you, Akage, but I reckon if it were to work for everybody there's some blokes here would have been cured long ago.
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akage CH.com Junior Offline Posts: 34	Re: Oxygen + sex Reply #38 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 8:32pm AussieBrian wrote on Jan 6^th, 2011 at 7:49pm: Glad it works for you, Akage, but I reckon if it were to work for everybody there's some blokes here would have been cured long ago. Obviously, as with any method I haven't heard anybody mixing this with oxygen breathing before, so I'm sharing.
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Agostino Leyre CH.com Sponsor Offline "Hit like a phillips head into my brain." Posts: 3803 Madison WI USA Gender:	Re: Oxygen + sex Reply #39 - Jan 7^th, 2011 at 5:22pm I think if I tried this method at 10, I'd be missing something after it was over...........
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Re: Oxygen + sex
Reply #40 - Jan 10^th, 2011 at 12:12am

The Shaggy has killed many a shadow or low kip'er with a little "self help". No jack pack/sleeve for me, that would be the next level I guess.

People should note that hyperventilation is different than asphyxiation. So everyone into being choked by their partner should adjust their technique accordingly, no plastic bags etc. (was that my out loud voice? Cheesy

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Carry on people.

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mikstudie CH.com Old Timer Offline Beastmaster Posts: 284 Westland Mi. Gender:	Re: Oxygen + sex Reply #41 - Jan 10^th, 2011 at 12:23pm Then why do I get shadows after sex during cycles. Cant resist, Yes tonight baby, I have a headache.
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akage CH.com Junior Offline Posts: 34	Re: Oxygen + sex Reply #42 - Jan 11^th, 2011 at 3:05pm mikstudie wrote on Jan 10^th, 2011 at 12:23pm: Then why do I get shadows after sex during cycles. That might be because of the release. If you were not to finish with an orgasm, the shadows might not come.
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Potter CH.com Alumnus Offline Team MOOSE DROOL Stinky Stuff on a Hook Prostaff Posts: 3600 Blgs.Mt. Gender:	Re: Oxygen + sex Reply #43 - Jan 11^th, 2011 at 9:07pm OK we got it. Potter
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ChefChris CH.com Veteran Offline Posts: 245 Virginia Beach, Va Gender:	Re: Oxygen + sex Reply #44 - Jan 18^th, 2011 at 11:02am ive had the same thing happen to me. during a cycle i cannot have sex for fear of a nasty hit after. ive got to go 3-4 months with no sex. many girlfriends cant understand this so our relationship goes south fast. SUUUCKS!!
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Re: Oxygen + sex
Reply #45 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 12:10pm

Would it help to 'dress up'?

I am a Sci-Fi fan but the thought of a hard-on+thinking about suicide is honestly, beyond even my imagination! ( I have to keep it on a leash!)

Can you explain how you turn the pages while fapping furiously with your right hand and holding the mask on your face, with the left?

Or is it sour grapes because I have no one to turn the pages for me! Cry

FABULOUS post! Wink

May the cycle be without you soon!

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Lenny CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 642 Los Angeles,CA Gender:	Re: Oxygen + sex Reply #46 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 1:38pm Batty wrote on Jan 21^st, 2011 at 12:10pm: Can you explain how you turn the pages while fapping furiously with your right hand and holding the mask on your face, with the left? May i suggest,using your feet ...works like a charm
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37-41withrestrictions CH.com Veteran Offline NOT SO PF AT THE MOMENT Posts: 124 Chester UK Gender:	Re: Oxygen + sex Reply #47 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 3:48pm Can you explain how you turn the pages while fapping furiously with your right hand and holding the mask on your face, with the left? That clamp might come in handy!!!
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Re: Oxygen + sex
Reply #48 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 4:03pm

37-41withrestrictions wrote on Jan 21^st, 2011 at 3:48pm:

Can you explain how you turn the pages while fapping furiously with your right hand and holding the mask on your face, with the left?

That clamp might come in handy!!! Grin

Hey Sue, you have made me blush like hell now!!!!
I thought this was the Boys room!
Honestly Wink

Gary (LOL and enjoying myself, a bit!)

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