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clavers CH.com Veteran Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 142	RC seeds Jul 18^th, 2011 at 2:04pm Some months ago RC seeds, (Rivea Corymbosa) were a hot topic. I purchased some and took them and they have kept the beast from my door for a year now. Why is no one apparently interested in these wonderous seeds any more?
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Ken_DFA CH.com Junior Offline Posts: 33 Normal, IL Gender:	Re: RC seeds Reply #1 - Jul 18^th, 2011 at 2:54pm Clavers, There is now a dedicated board specifically for RC seeds and clusterbusting in general. The link is located to your left at the bottom of the screen. -Ken
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Skyhawk5 CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 1320 Ypsilanti, Mi. USA Gender:	Re: RC seeds Reply #2 - Jul 18^th, 2011 at 6:30pm It is still recommended by folks on the site, but Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or is dedicated to these treatments. Many of us don't like to discuss it on the CH.com board because it is not a legal to use method. Don
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Reply #3 - Jan 31^st, 2012 at 5:07pm

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Many of us don't like to discuss it on the CH.com board because it is not a legal to use method.

Sorry but I disagree. I respect your choice not to discuss controversial issues, however I will scream at the top of my voice. I Smiley

RC seeds. If I restricted my speech because of something being illegal I wouldn't be able to live with myself. Smiley

I dont recall the bill of rights being completely rescinded. Smiley

All that is necessary for evil to prevail is that good men do nothing. I believe that open and free speech is critical for liberty and freedom. Many have died for it. Smiley

mushrooms. I use them to alleviate the pain from the most painful condition known to man. Smiley

Not because I am incorrigible, but because they work and legal treatments do not. Wink

I do not mean to pick or make trouble I believe freedom of speech is a GOD given inaileable right that can be taken by none and promised by our founding documents. Backed up with the blood of our forefathers.
Amen

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Reply #4 - Jan 31^st, 2012 at 8:27pm

Not to make too fine of a point of it, but it is logically impossible to disagree with Skyhawk's statement if it is merely a statement of fact, which it is.

You can disagree with all the reasons why people don't shout it from the rooftops, but his statement is an actual true fact.

And I'm not disagreeing with either of you. Wink

And yes, clavers, you will find vigorous dialogue on RC, fungus, LSD, BOL-148, and a whole host of other alternative treatments at:

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Reply #5 - Jan 31^st, 2012 at 9:09pm

Thanks Brew, you rock. Glad you pointed that out. RC seeds are not illegal. That is also a fact. Silence is golden. Cool

the bb

Edit: Upon further review.....Brew I dont disagree with Skyhawks statement I disagree with the idea of being silent on a theraputic medicine that works for 3 out of 4 people that use it simply because it is illegal. I would have thought the qualifing statements that followed make that clear. Given it's effectiveness logic would dictate spreading the word, and working toward rescheduling this substance to enable proper studies without the roadblocks currently in place...being scheduled as having no medicinal value is wrong..just plain wrong. Stupid message board miscommunication. Besides what is logical about CH? Roll Eyes

If we remain silent nothing will change...change starts with public outcry. Being silent is counterproductive to advancing medical research of these banned substances. Shocked

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Re: RC seeds
Reply #6 - Feb 1^st, 2012 at 12:38am

It was a post I saw on this board as a newbie 10-12 days ago that made me go look at clusterbusters.com, a post by someone asking why everyone was still dosing verapamil and other inefficient meds when the psychedelic treatment was showing such great results. Someone else chimed in to recall the rightness of the regular treatments and that many people wished not to consider anything illegal...

My point is: while I respect the fact that certain persons don't want to discuss options that might be outside the law, it's important I think that people still advocate the psychedelic option on this board, as this is where newbies land (well I did).

I was unsure about what I had heard about mushrooms before reading that post. I'm glad now I visited clusterbusters. It's now very clear to me the busters are actually much ahead official research and science. Just as a thread on this board about testosterone has, I'm sure, led official science to look into that option, so that my neuro today told me: yes, I read a paper on this last spring.

Do people know that all triptans (Imitrex, Sumatriptan, Imigran, Zomig spray...) have been developped based on the same type of substance LSD is from? And that psilocybin found in mushrooms is a verrry similar substance? It's good to know that also.
I think the RC seeds could be something to consider by anyone. Only ingesting the LSA in them is illegal. LSA is a natural substance found in some nice looking garden flowers seeds. It's another substance very similar to LSD and psilocybin, except you don't really get high at all... And it works!!! It really does. And away bye-bye all those nasty side effects of verapamil, lithium...
So there goes my 2 cents... I think people should have this information. I think pretty much only a clusterhead can understand another clusterhead, and that together, by sharing info and experiences, we can find relief... faster than if we wait for official science (no funds... illegal substances, no will (because they don't feel the pain)...)

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Reply #7 - Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 9:54am

Purple (head404) wrote on Feb 1^st, 2012 at 12:38am:

it's important I think that people still advocate the psychedelic option on this board, as this is where newbies land (well I did).

I agree, especially when talking about LSA containing seeds. Many people do not know the essential facts, they are very different from mushrooms or other hallucinogens. For starters, the seeds themselves are NOT illegal. If you are driving down the road and get pulled over with a bag of RC or morning glory seeds on your front seat, no police officer has the right to arrest you or fine you. The ONLY way you will ever get in trouble for them is if a police officer were to catch you in the act of actually eating them and knew what they were--and I can not think of one situation where that would happen. The seeds are not illegal, EATING the seeds IS illegal. There is NO drug test that can test for LSA containing seeds. If just the idea of having RC seeds works you up, you might feel better with Morning Glory, the heavenly blue strain works very well, and is grown all over the place as an ornamental plant. Before I ever ate the seeds I had them growing in my yard, just cause they look cool. The new house I moved into a year ago even came with some in the front yard! They are practically everywhere, you are not going to arise any suspicion by having the seeds or plants. (remember, although the seeds are available at almost EVERY garden shop in the US, only go for places that tell you they are "untreated" as many of the regular ones in stores are treated with a fungicide that you really don't want.)

I think by far the thing a lot of people don't understand is that the intoxication that it causes is very minimal, many people take them and go to sleep, with the only thing they notice is a good nights sleep. I have heard other people compare it to a 1 or 2 beer buzz. Very different than the dose needed for mushrooms, which WILL make you trip.

And they work.

There's a lot of good info on this from the great Dr. Andrew Sewell, Kyle Reed, and Dr. Miles Cunningham--Facts like

"Alkaloids in seeds known to contain LSA may be effective in aborting cluster attacks, terminating cluster periods, and extending remission periods, possibly related through a mechanism unrelated to the seeds hallucinogenic effects. No conventional medication either terminates cluster periods or extends remission periods"

And

"93% of subjects ingested LSA in a dose low enough to produce no psychoactive effects"

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thebbz Ex Member	Re: RC seeds Reply #8 - Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 7:04pm Good information Ricardo. I'm grinding some up right now...it enhances and promotes root growth, right before I seed them......lol the bb
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coach_bill CH.com Hall of Famer Offline "Dont expect me to lay down for this" Posts: 680 x0\|euclid\|USA\|\|0\|0\|OH,Ohio Gender:	Re: RC seeds Reply #9 - Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 10:54pm The only thing about the seeds were post dose hit i would get on the 4th day after using. But they worked for me. The seeds are legal to own and posses, but the moment you prepare them for consumption, Well lets just say ur looking at felony. Middle of the ball... Coach Bill
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: RC seeds Reply #10 - Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 10:59pm coach_bill wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 10:54pm: The seeds are legal to own and posses, but the moment you prepare them for consumption, Well lets just say ur looking at felony. And to lend some perspective, a sworn officer of the law would have to witness you ingesting them in order to arrest you for it.
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thebbz Ex Member	Re: RC seeds Reply #11 - Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 11:11pm Quote: And to lend some perspective, a sworn officer of the law would have to witness you ingesting them in order to arrest you for it. AKA: eating the evidence...he.he. I like that perspective.
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Purple (head404) CH.com Junior Offline clusterbusters.com Posts: 55	Re: RC seeds Reply #12 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 9:26am It took 2 busts, but I'm pain free this morning, spent a good night. I can feel the seeds action in my body working for days after the bust. It seems the active products in the seeds work their way little by little. Live through the rebounds, it's worth it: it works! it works!!!
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bonkers CH.com Old Timer Offline What is THIS? Posts: 308 San Diego, California Gender:	Re: RC seeds Reply #13 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:41pm I've never heard of anyone ever coming even close to being arrested for using RC seeds to combat their CH. Ron
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Re: RC seeds
Reply #14 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 3:56pm

Ron,

I never heard of that either. They would probaly laugh instead of cuffing ya.

I have graduted to shrooms, That would probaly not be as funny to the police. I know i may start a riff here, But they are better than the seeds for me.

Seeds also seemed to keep those shadows around a bit longer. and i wont lie, I like the effects of those darn shrooms Cheesy

. But i qlways keep seeds in the cupboard just in case..

Charge the BALL!!!!!
Coach Bill.

boy i cant wait till it's my turn to give him a headache. paybacks a bitch

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Guiseppi CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline San Diego to Florida 05-16-2011 Posts: 12063 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA Gender:	Re: RC seeds Reply #15 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 5:26pm bonkers wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:41pm: I've never heard of anyone ever coming even close to being arrested for using RC seeds to combat their CH. Ron But I'm watching Ron....I'm watching! Oh wait...never mind....crap, I forgot I'm retired.. Joe
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bonkers CH.com Old Timer Offline What is THIS? Posts: 308 San Diego, California Gender:	Re: RC seeds Reply #16 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 5:55pm Come to think of it, I've never heard of anyone ever coming even close to being arrested for using LSD or Psilocybe mushrooms to combat their CH.
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bonkers CH.com Old Timer Offline What is THIS? Posts: 308 San Diego, California Gender:	Re: RC seeds Reply #17 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 3:38pm What? So... no argument? I figured someone would disagree with me on this one.
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deltadarlin CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 3823 Downsville LA Gender:	Re: RC seeds Reply #18 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 7:34pm bonkers wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 5:55pm: Come to think of it, I've never heard of anyone ever coming even close to being arrested for using LSD or Psilocybe mushrooms to combat their CH. And that is only because they have not been caught with an illegal substance (and fwiw, I'm pro whatever it takes to stop the pain).
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Re: RC seeds
Reply #19 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 9:11am

bonkers wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 5:55pm:

Come to think of it, I've never heard of anyone ever coming even close to being arrested for using LSD or Psilocybe mushrooms to combat their CH.

I just retired after a 30 year career in law enforcement, in Southern California. Truth be told, in 30 years, I NEVER made an arrest for mushrooms or LSD. We just don't see it anymore. All of our problems come from meth, coke, heroin and marijuana. So I guess what I'm saying is, unless you do something to really draw attention to yourself, it would be pretty uncommon for law enforcement to notice. Wink

Joe

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Reply #20 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:47pm

Hmmm... I think I just heard a combined sigh of relief coming from what has become a very large group of ClusterBusters.

That's amazingly fabulous, wonderful, super news, Joe! A lot of folks will be resting a lot easier after reading your post. No one should take it as license to do anything illegal, however. If anyone using these illegal substances becomes visible enough, I'm sure law enforcement would oblige them with an arrest.

Thanks for the info, Joe.

Ron

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Re: RC seeds
Reply #21 - Feb 8^th, 2012 at 9:21am

The alternative treatments save lives. How can they be morally wrong? Just curious on those against them because they are illegal, but effective.

Could continue on about the reason they are illegal, but I think we have all asked God, the universe, or whatever you believe in to stop the pain at one time or another, and God, the universe, etc, has provided the solution. It is up to you to use it. My personal beliefs anyhow.

Good thought provoking thread, and thanks Joe for putting us paranoid pain free seeking people at ease Grin

I hope each and everyone of you will find what works for you.

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Purple (head404) CH.com Junior Offline clusterbusters.com Posts: 55	Re: RC seeds Reply #22 - Feb 10^th, 2012 at 4:02am I thought I'd share this news link from CB.com Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or
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Chad CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Posts: 738 Emmaus, PA Gender:	Re: RC seeds Reply #23 - Feb 10^th, 2012 at 11:29pm Seeds are my KO punch.. Took 3 rounds last cycle. Not once did I use a pharmaceutical drug to manage or abort my clusters. Just seeds and O2. Sweet, isn't it?
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thebbz Ex Member	Re: RC seeds Reply #24 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 12:01am Damn sweet Chad, 4th dose soaking. Caffeine,02 and seeds so far. the bb Happy you kicked some demon a$$.
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