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Mar 18th, 2013 at 2:25pm
 
(question at end)  Hi all, wish I didn't have to join here (I wish no one did, no one deserves this pain!) but here I am.  I'm Jessica, a 36 yr old mom to 8 from Tennessee.  In May 2012 I began getting headaches.  At first I thought maybe sinus headache, or maybe my migraines returning after 6 years without them. But each day the pain got worse.  The pain was behind my right eye, the bridge of my nose, my right temple, and would radiate through  my jaw and right side of my head.  In early june it got so bad I just knew something in my brain was going to explode and I went to the ER.  They did an MRI (found nothing) and gave me 3 doses of Fioricet through IV before it finally lessened the pain enough to function.  They called it a migraine and sent me on my way.  It was shortly after that I heard about cluster headaches and I'm sure that's what it was.  I had 2-3 headaches per day for 21 days straight.  I have a very high pain tolerance, i've given birth 8 times with no pain meds - but this, this was unbearable.

I'm afraid its returning.  Yesterday I was down for 2 hours with the same headache (right eye, temple, nose stuffy, etc). And now in the past hour I have a slight pain in the right side of my forehead and I'm afraid its the headache trying to return.  I don't remember exactly but I think my first bout with these back in May last year started out spaced out for the first few days then several a day for the remaining weeks.  Is that typical of clusters?  As much as I DON'T want this to be another episode, part of me wishes it was so I can just get it over with and move on with my life for the rest of the year.  Every little twinge in my head sends fear through my body of what I experienced last year.
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Re: Wish I didn't have to be here...
Reply #1 - Mar 18th, 2013 at 4:48pm
 
Please tell us where you live. Follow the next line to a message which explains why knowing your location and your medical history will help us to help you.

                       CLUSTER HEADACHE HELP AND SUPPORT › GETTING TO KNOW YA › NEWBIES, HELP US...HELP YOU
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After an intense period of leaning about Cluster and how to treat & control it, you'll discover, as most of us have, that it's not a barrier to a good life. I suspect that many of us would choose to have Cluster rather than many other of the chronic diseases/disorders floating around out there.

But for now, go on faith that you will survive.
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If at all possible, find a headache specialist to guide you. Too much energy can be wasted searching the wasteland of untrained docs out there.

LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

2.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

3. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register; On-line screen to find a physician.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register NEW certification program for "Headache Medicine" by the United Council for Neurologic Subspecialties, an independent, non-profit, professional medical organization.
        Since this is a new program, the initial listing is limited and so it should be checked each time you have an interest in locating a headache doctor.
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Of almost equal importance is learning about Cluster and how to treat it. We have an abundance of good medical material to pass along. But stat with some basic stuff:


Cluster headache.
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[Easy to read; one of the better overview articles I've seen. Suggest printing the full length article--link, line above--if you are serious about keeping a good medical library on the subject.]

Leroux E, Ducros A.

ABSTRACT: Cluster headache (CH) is a primary headache disease characterized by recurrent short-lasting attacks (15 to 180 minutes) of excruciating unilateral periorbital pain accompanied by ipsilateral autonomic signs (lacrimation, nasal congestion, ptosis, miosis, lid edema, redness of the eye). It affects young adults, predominantly males. Prevalence is estimated at 0.5-1.0/1,000. CH has a circannual and circadian periodicity, attacks being clustered (hence the name) in bouts that can occur during specific months of the year. ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY DIETARY TRIGGER OF CH, STRONG ODORS (MAINLY SOLVENTS AND CIGARETTE SMOKE) AND NAPPING MAY ALSO TRIGGER CH ATTACKS. During bouts, attacks may happen at precise hours, especially during the night. During the attacks, patients tend to be restless. CH may be episodic or chronic, depending on the presence of remission periods. CH IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRIGEMINOVASCULAR ACTIVATION AND NEUROENDOCRINE AND VEGETATIVE DISTURBANCES, HOWEVER, THE PRECISE CAUSATIVE MECHANISMS REMAIN UNKNOWN. Involvement of the hypothalamus (a structure regulating endocrine function and sleep-wake rhythms) has been confirmed, explaining, at least in part, the cyclic aspects of CH. The disease is familial in about 10% of cases. Genetic factors play a role in CH susceptibility, and a causative role has been suggested for the hypocretin receptor gene. Diagnosis is clinical. Differential diagnoses include other primary headache diseases such as migraine, paroxysmal hemicrania and SUNCT syndrome. At present, there is no curative treatment. There are efficient treatments to shorten the painful attacks (acute treatments) and to reduce the number of daily attacks (prophylactic treatments). Acute treatment is based on subcutaneous administration of sumatriptan and high-flow oxygen. Verapamil, lithium, methysergide, prednisone, greater occipital nerve blocks and topiramate may be used for prophylaxis. In refractory cases, deep-brain stimulation of the hypothalamus and greater occipital nerve stimulators have been tried in experimental settings.THE DISEASE COURSE OVER A LIFETIME IS UNPREDICTABLE. Some patients have only one period of attacks, while in others the disease evolves from episodic to chronic form.

PMID: 18651939 [PubMed]
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Three sites which are worth your attention: medical literature, films, plus the expected information
about CH.

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  Full of articles, blogs, book: written by one of the best headache docs in the Chicago area.
  Worth exploring. The latest book is in e-book edition, $10; comprehensive and worth buying for
  a careful read.
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Print the PDF file, below, both for your learning and as a tool to discuss treatment options when you find a doc.
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Reading the many messages here will show you just how much we share and, therefore, how much help is readily at hand.

But get the doc pronto. There are a number of disorders which mimic Cluster, but which are not headache disorders. Makes is essential that you get a firm diagnosis and not start running off treating a phantom.

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Reply #2 - Mar 19th, 2013 at 4:21am
 
Hi Jessica

It could be CH that you've got but then there are several other possible causes for CH symptoms. So you really do need to work with a headache specialist to get a firm diagnosis.

If it is CH then you've found the best possible place to get to grips with CH and how to deal with it.

Keep reading and ask any questions you can think of.
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Reply #3 - Mar 20th, 2013 at 9:52am
 
Hey there, Jessica. You wrote:
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Yesterday I was down for 2 hours with the same headache (right eye, temple, nose stuffy, etc). And now in the past hour I have a slight pain in the right side of my forehead and I'm afraid its the headache trying to return.  I don't remember exactly but I think my first bout with these back in May last year started out spaced out for the first few days then several a day for the remaining weeks.  Is that typical of clusters?


The short answer to your question is, yes. They are called clusters because they come in time clusters: same time of year, same time of day...that kind of thing. There are those who suffer episodically, for example a few weeks or months in a year's time; and those who suffer chronically, every day, all day, with less than a month's reprieve in between.

Having said all of that, Mike and Bob are right. You really need to nail this down and get a diagnosis. Most neuros have no experience whatsoever with CHs and that is frustrating. We can help by giving you the best of our personal experiences. Find a good neuro and get started. The pain can be managed if it is CHs. blessings. lance
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Re: Wish I didn't have to be here...
Reply #4 - Mar 24th, 2013 at 9:32am
 
Some sufferer recommended docs in the Tenn area, any near you?

Clarksville:
Dr. Constance Johnson
Neurological Medicine

Germantown:
Dr. E. Arthur Franklin (PCP)

Memphis:
Dr. Michael H. DeShazo
Semmes-Murphey Neurologic & Spine Institute

Nashville:
Dr. Jan Lewis Brandes
Nashville Neuroscience Group

Ooltewah:
Dr. David V. Lounsberry (PCP)
Erlanger Ooltewah Family
Medicine

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