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Hello. 10 years I've been dealing with this.
Mar 19th, 2013 at 1:03pm
 
Hello. I'm a 38 year old male from Calgary Alberta. I've suffered through clusters for the last ten or so years, I've been diagnosed for the last six. I'm currently just starting my fourth week of headaches. I had a brief 50 hour reprieve last Monday and Tuesday, and am currently at 43 headaches for this time period. My last bout was about 18 months ago. I use 10 mg wafers of Maxalt RPD to combat them. I've also had some success with Relpax, but they do take longer to kick in.

I had to get my prescription renewed yesterday. They decided to take some blood samples, and get my eyes xrayed in preparation for an MRI sometime in the near future (month or two).

I just found this site yesterday and registered today. I haven't read any threads yet, but plan on it later. I'm currently at work right now... I'm lucky I haven't missed any days so far.

I asked my doctor how many other cases he's encountered, and as I expected, I'm the only one.

II am pretty typical to what I've read from other cases. My usual episodes usually last 4-6 weeks.

Anyhow, I have to run. I look forward to meeting some of you and having people to relate to because as we all know, if you haven't actually witnessed it or experienced it for yourself, you have absolutely no idea.

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Re: Hello. 10 years I've been dealing with this.
Reply #1 - Mar 19th, 2013 at 7:22pm
 
With a long history and a doc who as NO experience, I'd start looking fo a headache specialist. Even neurologists, who we would expect to be helpful, have strikingly little education/experience with Cluster.

If you can' find specific listings in your phone book, call the social workers at you local hospitals for leads.
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Reply #2 - Mar 20th, 2013 at 9:46am
 
Welcome, Sledge. Here's some tips to get you started:

1. Find a good headache specialist-this is imperative; you want the specialist who has experience in clusters.

2. Start a prednisone taper (starting around 80mg/day) You don't say you tried this but a bunch of us found good relief this way while waiting for a longer term preventative to kick in.

3. Start a preventative working up to a high enough dose to be effective in treating CHs, like 240mg/day verapamil increasing as directed up to 960mg/day. Other preventatives include Topamax, carbomazapine, oxycarbomazapine, and more. Pay attention to the doses-often we hear I tried that but the dose was too low to be effective.

4. Get an effective oxygen setup: a nonrebreather mask and a regulator that will go up to 25lpm along with a 3 liter bag. See optimask.

5. Get effective abortives, like imitrex injectables-pills are too slow-or Migranal nasal spray, it's an alternative to triptans. I use both.

6. Keep a log or journal of your attacks, and learn to use the KIP scale at left. This may help to identify some triggers for you. Some are fairly common to all of us, like alcohol, but even that isn't universal.

It's a long list, but it returns to you the power needed to manage the beast. Good luck and God bless. lance
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Reply #3 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:50pm
 
Welcome, Sledge. Here's some tips to get you started:

1. Find a good headache specialist-this is imperative; you want the specialist who has experience in clusters.

I'm currently looking around, I've contacted some local members to see if they have any leads in this department. I have a neurologist that I've seen once, and I'm scheduled to go in for an MRI in the next month or two. (Even though I've read that most of the time, nothing shows up).

2. Start a prednisone taper (starting around 80mg/day) You don't say you tried this but a bunch of us found good relief this way while waiting for a longer term preventative to kick in.

I will have to look this up, it's not a term I'm familiar with. It appears I have a TON of reading to do. Even though I've suffered for as long as I have, it's only been a few days that I have found this site. Most reading I've done so far are from research/medical journal sites etc.

3. Start a preventative working up to a high enough dose to be effective in treating CHs, like 240mg/day verapamil increasing as directed up to 960mg/day. Other preventatives include Topamax, carbomazapine, oxycarbomazapine, and more. Pay attention to the doses-often we hear I tried that but the dose was too low to be effective.

My doctor had suggested a prophylactic type of medication, I'm guessing this is what you're talking about. I actually declined the prescription as I figured that due to my infrequent attacks....usually 12-18 months in between, that it was unnecessary medication to be taking. Maybe I should be rethinking this over?

4. Get an effective oxygen setup: a nonrebreather mask and a regulator that will go up to 25lpm along with a 3 liter bag. See optimask.

I've tried oxygen therapy, it didn't seem to work for me. My regulator was set for 15 litres. Maybe I should revisit this also.

5. Get effective abortives, like imitrex injectables-pills are too slow-or Migranal nasal spray, it's an alternative to triptans. I use both.

I can barely watch the doctor inject me, let alone do it myself. The Maxalt RPD wafers (dissolve on tongue) that I take usually work, if I take them soon enough. My problem is I second guess myself having an attack, and wait too long before taking it....if I'm awake. The ones that are the worst are when they catch me asleep.

6. Keep a log or journal of your attacks, and learn to use the KIP scale at left. This may help to identify some triggers for you. Some are fairly common to all of us, like alcohol, but even that isn't universal.

Something I've been negligent in, although I don't seem to correlate anything I'm doing with having an attack. It seems like they hit me at regular intervals, no matter what I'm doing, what I've ate, whether I drank alcohol or not, smoking, stress, seasonal, etc. This goes beyond my current situation as well, but it can't hurt to start. I did look at the KIP scale, and really there's no difference in what I feel. The only difference is whether or not the medication kicks in and makes it bearable or it doesn't and it isn't.

It's a long list, but it returns to you the power needed to manage the beast. Good luck and God bless. lance

Thanks for the advice and the support (to all, not just above poster). It means a lot to me.
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Reply #4 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:25am
 
Sledge007 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:50pm:
Welcome, Sledge. Here's some tips to get you started:

Aye Aye...welcome HOME...and welcome aboard. It's a real slick boat....no passengers, only crew....now ya can grab an oar and row...plenty of seats in the pit...we call the beat...not the beast. We help you, you help us...EVERYBODY wins!


1. Find a good headache specialist-this is imperative; you want the specialist who has experience in clusters.

I'm currently looking around, I've contacted some local members to see if they have any leads in this department. I have a neurologist that I've seen once, and I'm scheduled to go in for an MRI in the next month or two. (Even though I've read that most of the time, nothing shows up).

Good start...ANY competent neuro will order MRI/CT to rule out other issues that may mimic CH. This is critical!!!! I know someone who had classic ch symptoms...had an MRI....and they found a BRAIN TUMOR! Not trying to scare ya...but ya just...gotta...check.


2. Start a prednisone taper (starting around 80mg/day) You don't say you tried this but a bunch of us found good relief this way while waiting for a longer term preventative to kick in.

I will have to look this up, it's not a term I'm familiar with. It appears I have a TON of reading to do. Even though I've suffered for as long as I have, it's only been a few days that I have found this site. Most reading I've done so far are from research/medical journal sites etc.

Pretty close to a standard treatment...break the cycle while a prevent has time to kick in. It usually doesn't last by itself...and ya really don't want any more than a taper anyway....REAL bad long term effects....


3. Start a preventative working up to a high enough dose to be effective in treating CHs, like 240mg/day verapamil increasing as directed up to 960mg/day. Other preventatives include Topamax, carbomazapine, oxycarbomazapine, and more. Pay attention to the doses-often we hear I tried that but the dose was too low to be effective.

My doctor had suggested a prophylactic type of medication, I'm guessing this is what you're talking about. I actually declined the prescription as I figured that due to my infrequent attacks....usually 12-18 months in between, that it was unnecessary medication to be taking. Maybe I should be rethinking this over?

Another standard is verapamil...in higher doses than usual for blood pressure issues. I "maintain" on 480mg/dy...and have been over 1000 in high cycle. Bear in mind that when upping dose...ecg's are prudent.



4. Get an effective oxygen setup: a nonrebreather mask and a regulator that will go up to 25lpm along with a 3 liter bag. See optimask.

I've tried oxygen therapy, it didn't seem to work for me. My regulator was set for 15 litres. Maybe I should revisit this also.

Read the O2 link and listen to the above. 15 works for me.....but MANY folks need much higher....AND hyperventilation...


5. Get effective abortives, like imitrex injectables-pills are too slow-or Migranal nasal spray, it's an alternative to triptans. I use both.

I can barely watch the doctor inject me, let alone do it myself. The Maxalt RPD wafers (dissolve on tongue) that I take usually work, if I take them soon enough. My problem is I second guess myself having an attack, and wait too long before taking it....if I'm awake. The ones that are the worst are when they catch me asleep.

Yup...needles are an issue for many. Personally, I use Zomig (5mg) nasal spray for breakthroughs...99% effective but damned expensive. Be sure to check out Astrazeneca website for coupon if ya go this route...I save $50 per script with those...
AND...another note on o2...for me, while not always effective during daytime hits....the sometimes 8 per night are remarkably effectively aborted...and in short order. Stay calm...hit the bottle...don't allow yourself to fully wake. Ya may not get 8 straight hours of sleep...but danged if 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 (between the hits) aint blissfull....


6. Keep a log or journal of your attacks, and learn to use the KIP scale at left. This may help to identify some triggers for you. Some are fairly common to all of us, like alcohol, but even that isn't universal.

Something I've been negligent in, although I don't seem to correlate anything I'm doing with having an attack. It seems like they hit me at regular intervals, no matter what I'm doing, what I've ate, whether I drank alcohol or not, smoking, stress, seasonal, etc. This goes beyond my current situation as well, but it can't hurt to start. I did look at the KIP scale, and really there's no difference in what I feel. The only difference is whether or not the medication kicks in and makes it bearable or it doesn't and it isn't.

If nothing else...a detailed log is MOST impressive to a physician with ANY common sense. It indicates a problem, potential cause, a determined patient, and all kinds of other things. In fact, National Headache Foundation contends that just the fact of making a list is one of the PRIMARY symptoms/indicators of a clusterheadache patient (obsessive/focused? who knows).


It's a long list, but it returns to you the power needed to manage the beast. Good luck and God bless. lance

Thanks for the advice and the support (to all, not just above poster). It means a lot to me.

Best,

Jon



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Re: Hello. 10 years I've been dealing with this.
Reply #5 - Mar 24th, 2013 at 9:29am
 
A couple of sufferer recommended docs near you:

Alberta

Calgary:
Dr. Werner J. Becker
Dr. Arnolda Eloff

Edmonton:
Dr. Grant K. Campbell (PCP)
British Columbia

Vancouver:
Dr. R. Gordon Robinson
Manitoba

Winnipeg:
Dr. Doug Hobson
New Brunswick


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Reply #6 - Mar 24th, 2013 at 10:13am
 
Thanks Joe, I will be contacting my family doctor and asking for a referral.
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