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Apr 22nd, 2013 at 2:39pm
 
Hello!

My name is Valerie and I have been getting cluster headaches since I was 4 years old. I'm now almost 21 and the clusters are just getting worse as I get older. I've read through this site over the years and finally am posting. I'm wondering, when did everyone's clusters start? Any as young as I was? And what do you do for relief? Also, with my clusters they are in the left eye and as the pain goes on and on for days my eye begins to palsy and droop to the point where my eye stays closed. Does this happen to anyone else?

Thanks for reading!
Valerie
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Reply #1 - Apr 22nd, 2013 at 3:17pm
 
Having read on this site for years, you know that self-diagnosis and self-treatment are both a waste of your pain and may result in missing a condition which is more serious than Cluster.

So, what medical care have you received? What diagnoses have you received? What treatments have
doc(s) prescribed? With what results?

IF pain does, literally goes on for days without stopping, this suggests that you don't have Cluster.
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LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

2.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

3. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register; On-line screen to find a physician.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register NEW certification program for "Headache Medicine" by the United Council for Neurologic Subspecialties, an independent, non-profit, professional medical organization.
        Since this is a new program, the initial listing is limited and so it should be checked each time you have an interest in locating a headache doctor.





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Reply #2 - Apr 23rd, 2013 at 9:57am
 
Well, I've had the normal MRI, CT Scans, CT Angiogram, even an LP to rule out meningitis. I was given the diagnosis of cluster headaches years ago but the doctors do say that there are traits that aren't common to clusters that I do have. I've tried Imitrex nasal spray, torodol shots, benadryl, oxygen, and a whole list of preventative medicines too and nothing seems to be working for me. This past time they gave me a prednisone taper which no one has ever thought of doing and that seemed to help end the cluster faster. I also started taking verapamil twice daily as a preventative. I've been on both of those for about a week now.

But, you did say that if the pain goes on that long it may not be a cluster. The doctors just don't know what to call it maybe?? All I know is that it's the worst pain I've ever felt and if anyone has any other ideas of what to try or what it could actually be please share!!
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Reply #3 - Apr 23rd, 2013 at 4:53pm
 
Headaches are a pretty complex area of medicine with many, many headache types and there are other non-headache causes that can result in symptoms of headaches. So it is essential to work with a good, experienced headache specialist.

It is possible that you've got more than one headache type which is creating a confusing mixture of symptoms. It isn't too unusual with quite a few people here having multiple types with the combination of migraine and CH being the more common (I get both).

It is possible that whilst you've tried multiple different drugs that you've not had a high enough dose for the medication to be effective. For verapamil most doctors are unlikely to give someone more than 240mg a day for its main use in controlling blood pressure, but for CH that is a very low dose with 360-480mg a day being normal and some people going to over 1000mg a day. So it is common to see where people have said they have tried everything to find that the optimum use of the medication hasn't been followed.

Another possibility with "everything" not working is that the pain isn't from CH but something else.

Or it could be you're one of the people for whom most of the standard drugs don't work too well.

So do follow up with an experienced headache specialist to get the diagnosis confirmed. Hopefully this will result in better treatment that works for you so you don't have to go through all the pain.
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Reply #4 - Apr 24th, 2013 at 9:10am
 
Welcome to the board Valerie. You've been given some great advice so far, it's also possible you're one of the really "lucky" ones who suffer from a CH/migrain or other combo headache. This makes finding a specialist even more critical. While you're waiting for all that to get ironed out, I'd consider starti ng this regimen:

Follow this link to the medications section of this board and read the post 

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It’s a vitamin/mineral/fish oil supplement, all over the counter stuff. It’s up to an 81% success rate of those who try it and respond to the survey so you’re just shooting yourself in the foot if you don’t give it a shot. I’m 3 years pain free on it after a 35 plus year track record with episodic CH. Best of all, it’s healthy for you even without CH!

It's had me pain free for 3 years. Since you've already had the complex testing done and confirmed there's nothing malicious growing inside of you, it's time to see if we can just stop the pain. It's pennies a day, certainly worth some exploring.

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Reply #5 - Apr 24th, 2013 at 10:10am
 
Welcome Valerie. What Mike said above is also true of O2. So many "have tried oxygen" meaning they have used too low a flow rate with the wrong type of mask. But to answer your question directly, I use O2 (up to 60lpm with a demand flow valve and nonrebreather mask) preceded by a double Monster chugged as quickly as I can. This reduces the abort time for pretty much every cluster attack to less than 5 minutes. Blessings. lance
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Reply #6 - Apr 24th, 2013 at 11:51am
 
Oh, Valerie, I feel for you.  Have you looked into trying to see some of the specialists who use unusual treatments with some success?  There's a guy in Pennsylvania, Dr. Rozen, who has has success with really challenging cases like yours.  I almost went to him in my last cycle, but thank heavens it broke before I ended up being hospitalized.  He's in Wilkes-Barre, PA, associated with the Geisinger practices.  If this continues, you deserve to have better treatment, and he may find that you respond to a completely different regimen than the rest of us.  Good luck to you with this.  I  know how debilitating this can all be.
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