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Aug 13th, 2014 at 11:45am
 
I know that what is going on here has made national news.  I am wondering how big a story it is in other states and how people outside of STL and Mo. are seeing it?

I guess it's making our city look pretty bad.  Embarrassed
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Reply #1 - Aug 13th, 2014 at 12:12pm
 
It's been the lead story here in San Diego every newscast. Clearly a lot of very angry people    Undecided

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Reply #2 - Aug 13th, 2014 at 12:35pm
 
And each day the city becomes more divided.
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Reply #3 - Aug 13th, 2014 at 7:28pm
 
The media has been stirring the pot furiously around here.  One of the biggest reasons I refuse to watch the propaganda, I mean news. 

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Reply #4 - Aug 13th, 2014 at 9:46pm
 
I've seen coverage of it here in New Zealand too.
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Reply #5 - Aug 14th, 2014 at 3:30am
 
I'm in England and as far as I know we have heard nothing here. What's happened?
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Reply #6 - Aug 14th, 2014 at 8:39am
 
Jeannie wrote on Aug 13th, 2014 at 11:45am:
I guess it's making our city look pretty bad.  Embarrassed


Many people's first reaction to the news would be to see St. Louis in a bad light. But it was really just one incident by a small group of people (percentage wise of the population of the city).  A week from now the news reports will have moved on the next "crisis" to fill in dead space between commercials.
St Louis is a beautiful city. We can't judge a city just by some of the people that live there.
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Reply #7 - Aug 14th, 2014 at 3:12pm
 
maz wrote on Aug 14th, 2014 at 3:30am:
I'm in England and as far as I know we have heard nothing here. What's happened?

Sat. a young man was shot and killed by a Ferguson police officer.  Not much has been released about the shooting other than that the officer states that he stopped two people (I'm not sure for what reason) and a struggle ensued.  The officer claims that Mike Brown attempted to grab his gun thus resulting in the officer opening fire and killing him.

An eye witness, a friend of Mike Brown, claims that they were stopped for simply walking down the street.  He claims that there was no struggle and at no time did Mike Brown go after the officer's gun.  He says that the officer fired as Mike Brown had his hands in the air and was pleading, "Don't shoot!" 

Since then, "peaceful" protests have turned into looting and setting businesses on fire.  The looting has made it's way outside of Ferguson and into the city and surrounding counties.  There have been cyber attacks resulting in police officer's private information being made public.  They have gone as far as releasing pictures of their children. 

Civic leaders have gone on record saying that the officer "murdered an unarmed boy in broad daylight."

It's a mess and doesn't seem to be getting better. 

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Reply #8 - Aug 14th, 2014 at 4:39pm
 
Oh that's just awful. We do hear occasionally of similar incidents, but not this one so far. Unless I've missed it.
I do hope it eases off soon before any more innocents get hurt.
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Reply #9 - Aug 14th, 2014 at 9:32pm
 
On the other hand, other witnesses say Brown physically attacked the officer, and the officer had injuries to his face. 

What the real truth is no one knows.  We certainly aren't getting it from the media.


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Reply #10 - Aug 14th, 2014 at 9:35pm
 
Jerry.... There is SO much the media is not telling.
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Reply #11 - Aug 15th, 2014 at 6:29am
 
And Al Sharpton has gotten into it and that's just stirring the pot. Last night seemed a little calmer, but it's still a mess.

Take care and stay safe. Our prayers are with all our friends in St. Louis. And it is a beautiful city.  Kiss
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Reply #12 - Aug 15th, 2014 at 8:13am
 
The officer's name will be released today.  I may not be popular in making this request but, as the entire country prays for the Brown family, I ask that we also remember this officer and his family.
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Reply #13 - Aug 15th, 2014 at 10:15am
 
Yes of course Jeannie. It must be dreadful for them all, especially any children involved.

It finally made the news over here late last night.  In a country who's regular police don't carry guns this type of news is always horrific. We do have armed response teams and sadly there have been a couple of similar incidents here over the years, but it never ceases to cause great shock.

I'm so glad guns are not commonplace over here.

My thoughts go out to all concerned.
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Reply #14 - Aug 15th, 2014 at 1:20pm
 
Definitely, Jeanie!  The officer involved has to deal with having taken another human's life for the rest of his own life.  Police work is demanding enough, and the stresses it puts on the officers and their families is tremendous without adding this. 

The police department is also not giving much info.  They are under limits of what they can say because of protecting evidence, but that doesn't stop the news media from spewing everything from everybody else, whether it is of value or not.  The PD released video caps of Brown robbing a convenience store just minutes before the altercation with the officer.  The officer was looking for him in relation to that robbery.  Kind of changes that sweet little angelic choirboy image presented in the beginning doesn't it?

I don't know what happened.  Neither does anyone else.  I am sick of the one sided presentation we have seen and the way the media has stirred the pot and inflamed the situation.

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Reply #15 - Aug 15th, 2014 at 3:02pm
 
People around here are very upset about the release of this information. I fear that tonight will not be as peaceful as last night was.
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Reply #16 - Aug 15th, 2014 at 7:11pm
 
Here in Kentucky we are hearing that the media is telling too much, Jerry and of course twisting i to suit their own agenda.  Jeannie no one is going to have a had picture of St. Louis.  Only of the ignorant morons who are looting and burning their own neighborhoods.
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Reply #17 - Aug 15th, 2014 at 7:51pm
 
Linda_Howell wrote on Aug 15th, 2014 at 7:11pm:
Here in Kentucky we are hearing that the media is telling too much, Jerry and of course twisting i to suit their own agenda.  Jeannie no one is going to have a had picture of St. Louis.  Only of the ignorant morons who are looting and burning their own neighborhoods. 


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Suppose you see will this kind of thing up on the mesa? Or will you have to go slumming in AG in order to see some riots?

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Reply #18 - Aug 15th, 2014 at 9:50pm
 
Linda_Howell wrote on Aug 15th, 2014 at 7:11pm:
Jeannie no one is going to have a had picture of St. Louis.  Only of the ignorant morons who are looting and burning their own neighborhoods. 


Why is it that whenever anything like this happens then people react by looting and burning. If they think that there was some injustice about what happened then how is it answered by looting?

Or is it that they think that they can get away with it?

This hasn't changed my impression of St Louis, it just confirms my impression of what some people will do given the chance.
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Reply #19 - Aug 16th, 2014 at 1:35pm
 
I think the media always fans the flames in cases like this. I recall the 1992 trial of three police officers accused of beating Rodney King happened in Simi Valley, CA at a courthouse less than a five minute walk from my house. There were dozens of media trucks and what seemed like over 500 police in my neighborhood. I couldn't even get out of my neighborhood to drive to a store. The media kept going on about the "all white jury from Simi Valley" acquitting the officers, though only two of the jurors were residents of Simi Valley. We got a bad rap for a while, being known as a city full of racists.
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Reply #20 - Aug 16th, 2014 at 6:15pm
 
I'm sorry I keep posting about this.  It seems it's all I can think about right now.

They took away policing duties from the Ferguson PD and STL County PD and handed it over to the MO Highway Patrol.  They had one somewhat peaceful night.  Last night there was some looting.  They ALLOWED IT to keep things from getting worse. 

Now they have declared a state of emergency but say they have no plans to use "strong tactics" to enforce the curfew.
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Reply #21 - Aug 16th, 2014 at 6:18pm
 
Jeannie wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 6:15pm:
They had one somewhat peaceful night.  Last night there was some looting.  They ALLOWED IT to keep things from getting worse.


Is this the rule of law or the rule of the mob?

Imagine if you were one of the shop owners who had their store looted?
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Reply #22 - Aug 16th, 2014 at 7:37pm
 
Mike NZ wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 6:18pm:
Jeannie wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 6:15pm:
They had one somewhat peaceful night.  Last night there was some looting.  They ALLOWED IT to keep things from getting worse.


Is this the rule of law or the rule of the mob?

Imagine if you were one of the shop owners who had their store looted?

I watched an interview with one of the store owners.  He said, "They took everything. Everything." 

Another woman complained, "The police stood by and just let this happen."

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Reply #23 - Aug 16th, 2014 at 10:17pm
 
The only ones not cleaned out were the ones who armed themselves and defended their stores.  They weren't bothered, but you don't see them covered by the news.  It doesn't fit the agenda of guns being bad.  I'll bet the other shop owners wished they had done so!

The majority of the looters are not local.  Some of them are not even from Missouri, or even from across the creek in Illinois!

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Reply #24 - Aug 18th, 2014 at 12:30pm
 
I read one report that some of those store owners had machine guns and assault rifles. Turned out that the press likes to mislabel any modern semi auto sporting rifle. as a "machine gun" or "assault rifle"  because they are black and scary looking to them.



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