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Jan 28th, 2017 at 11:51pm
 
Hello all! Just curiosity? A few years back, I found a few letters on here. One was to give to doctors who may need information. the other, which is really the one I'm looking for, was to give to friends, family and significant others to allow them more insight into CH. as i said in an earlier post, I was PF for 3 years until about two weeks ago. During that time, I got back together with my high school sweetheart from about 30 years ago. Back then the monster was nowhere near as ad as it is now. so obviously this most recent cycle has hit her like a ton of bricks. I thought it might help her to read this. I have also showed her this oard and that she too can get on and speak to other supporters like her. Any help in this area would be greatly appreciated.

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Reply #1 - Jan 29th, 2017 at 12:07am
 
Hi Pfunk
I cant remember those letters on here but...i do know OUCH UK have something similar on their website Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register feel free to have a look and pinch them they are in the downloads section of resources Smiley
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Reply #2 - Jan 29th, 2017 at 12:18am
 
Yes! Thats exactly what i was looking for thank you. I haven't been on in a while and I'm having to re-familiarize myself again. Thank you
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Reply #3 - Jan 29th, 2017 at 2:43am
 
There is a copy at - Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register

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A note for those who know a C.H. sufferer:

Someone you know has probably given you this note to explain a little about a condition they suffer from called Cluster Headache Syndrome. It is likely that before you met them, you had never heard of this condition, which, after all, affects less than .05% of the population.

The term "headache"; is very misleading. Your friend or coworker is not experiencing the typical symptoms of familiar primary headaches, such as Migraine and Tension. The cause and cure of Cluster Headache Syndrome are unknown.

Cluster Headache sufferers fall into two categories: Episodic and Chronic. Episodic sufferers experience headaches in clusters for a period of typically six weeks to six months and will go into periods of remissions typically lasting from six months to 3 years. Chronic sufferers experience no periods of remission lasting longer than two weeks in the period of one year.
A CH attack is unilateral (one sided). Pain may begin around one eye, "Like a nail or knife stabbing and piercing" the eye, or as if someone "were pulling out" your eye. It may be accompanied by a tearing or bloodshot eye, drooping eyelid, dilated pupil and nasal congestion or runny nose on the side of the attack. It can radiate from the eye to the forehead, temple, ear, cheek, jaw and neck on the same side. The pain of a CH has been described as piercing or boring and so excruciating that most victims cannot sit still and feel compelled to rock in a chair, walk back and forth, or bang their heads against something.

The pain is so extreme that Dr. Peter Goadsby, Professor of Clinical Neurology at University College London, and the worlds leading researcher on CH has commented, "Cluster headache is probably the worst pain that humans experience. I know that's quite a strong remark to make, but if you ask a cluster headache patient if they've had a worse experience, they'll universally say they haven't. Women with cluster headache will tell you that an attack is worse than giving birth. So you can imagine that these people give birth without anesthetic once or twice a day, for six, eight or ten weeks at a time, and then have a break. It's just awful." Most CH victims experience these attacks 2 to 10 times daily. The pain quickly escalates from no pain to unbearable pain within five minutes. The pain subsides in the same manner. Attacks can last anywhere from 30 minutes to 3 hours or more.

A curiosity of Cluster Headache Syndrome is that both the individual attacks and the clusters themselves can have an almost metronomic regularity - attacks starting at a precise time of day or season are typical. Doctors believe the source of CH is keyed to the hypothalamus which regulates sleep and pain in the body.

It is a headache, in that the pain is in the head, but that is really where the similarity ends. The name itself leads to confusion, as people immediately think of it as something that can be cured by taking a pill, or by thinking of it as a migraine.

How is your friend affected?

This will vary enormously, and, surprisingly, you will almost certainly never witness a full-blown attack. Seeing someone in that state can be quite terrifying. Sufferers are reluctant to allow anyone else to see them at that point, for three main reasons: first, with family and friends, it is simply to avoid them having to see something which, as they are powerless to help, is very upsetting; second, no-one is keen to be seen in a state where they will scream, cry, pace, hit their head repeatedly and generally be uncontrollable - dignity does matter; and three, coping with the attack is wearing in the extreme, and having to cope with other people around is just not possible for most.

In addition, the cumulative effects of repeated attacks and the medications used can lead to tiredness, irritability and an occasional loss of temper. Depression is quite common. Some individuals lose their jobs, and even partners and homes. That said, because having to cope is part of the nature of the condition, most sufferers will "get along" - they have to be quite strong to survive.

Most can be helped by medication, but, because the cause of the illness in unknown there is no cure. The medications often mask or reduce the symptoms, but do not remove them. Many of the medications have difficult long and short-term side effects.

What can you do to help?

When an attack hits, there is nothing anyone can do, unless the sufferer requests help. The best thing is to stay well away. Afterwards, a quiet word is probably a good idea. You may find the sufferer will talk about what he goes through if you ask - he may appreciate the opportunity to explain. Sympathy will be appreciated, certainly, and, if you are working with someone, make sure that you do not give any reason for them to think that you blame them for the inconvenience they may have caused. Most will be keen to get on with things, and repay any efforts you have made to cover for them, if the nature of the work allows.

Some misconceptions:
"I had one of those once" - no-one ever has one cluster headache
"My aunt has migraine too" - migraine is nothing like a CH.
"Can't you just take a tablet and lie down?" - No is the answer, most sufferers cannot lie down.
"I know an acupuncturist/herbalist/allergist/chiropractor/spirit medium/etc who cures cluster headaches!" - No offense, but that's not how this condition works.

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Thank you for supporting your friend. This can be a very frightening disease and your encouragement and understanding is an important and vital factor in helping to manage CH.

Original draft of this letter written by Simon Bower for Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register
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Reply #4 - Jan 29th, 2017 at 3:05am
 
Thanks Mike. That's the one
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Reply #5 - Jan 30th, 2017 at 8:35pm
 
Pfunk,

Sorry life isn't treating you so well right now. That bites it big time.

Simon's letter used to be on the OUCH site until it was stolen from us. Glad OUCH-UK is keeping it available.

To Pfunk's girlfriend, Welcome to the club no one wants to be a member of, but cannot leave once they become a member. (Some of us are lucky enough to be inactive members, though!) Just want you to know you are loved by all of us. We love anyone who loves one of us. We're kind of family that way. This beast we fight is bad enough that when we find someone to love us in spite of it and all of the disruption to life it brings, they are cherished beyond what normally happens. We realize we are not at our best when the beast is calling, so to have someone love us anyway means a lot! You are hereby granted honorary membership in the guild and all rights and privileges thereto are yours to enjoy, to include all of the love and support we can give in return. Please let us know any way we can be of help and encouragement to you. Any question is welcome and we will do our best to answer. No question is a dumb question. Some answers, though, are suspect.  Cheesy

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Reply #6 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 4:22am
 
Callico...very nice...some day I'd like to meet you.
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Reply #7 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:27pm
 
Jerry,
Thanks so much for your sweet words and kindness. I am extremely grateful for this site and the people on it. I feel the love ❤️ It has been very helpful to me in understanding what's happening. Life has been very good to us the last year and a half. We picked back up where we had left off years ago. I love him more than I could ever explain. I have always known he was my soulmate. Reconnecting was a dream come for me. He was upfront with me that he could have a reoccurrence at anytime and explained how bad it could be, however you can't prepare enough to see it happening. 😭😭😭😭 I am lost when this is happening bc I can't make it better for him. It's in my nature to make things better if at all possible. It breaks my heart he has had to face this alone all these years. (in person that is. Very grateful he has had all of you on here) He will NEVER have to be alone in person again! Walking away from someone going through this is heartless.  It might be stressful and very hard to watch the suffering he indures, but I am committed to him no matter what. I am a strong person. We will get through this along with anything else that is thrown our way. With all the chaos and confusion in this world it's a breath of fresh air to feel all the love here. I truly appreciate it. He was very touched as well by how welcoming you were towards me. I will have questions along this journey as I learn more. Have a good night. Take care.
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Reply #8 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 6:26pm
 
Ciminosgirl,

Welcome aboard. Wish you weren't here, but so glad that you are. You have no idea how many of us have lost family, spouses, fiancees, boyfriend/girlfriends, etc. over this mess. To have someone who will stick with us is a treasure, and we don't hold it lightly. We LOVE our supporters!  Smiley Smiley

I know too well how hard it is to see someone else in pain. I've been around other clusterheads when they are getting hit, and believe me, I'd rather take the hit myself than watch them. You supporters have it much worse than do we. I fully believe that.

Don't be a stranger. Let us know how we can support you and help. Drag him along, and come up to Chicago in Sept. for the Clusterbusters conference. Would love to meet both of you, and I can promise you, it will be a life-changing experience for you. Meeting in a room with over a hundred of us crazy people can be nothing less!

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Reply #9 - Feb 10th, 2017 at 7:44am
 
I just fuckin hated it when my son ADAM  in a wheelchair had to see me during a cluster. I saw the concern in his eyes...Unable to do anything to comfort me as I cried , screamed, paced , fell , pleaded to God to kill me.
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Reply #10 - Feb 11th, 2017 at 4:04pm
 
Thank you for posting the explanation, which I had seen before and which I just shared with a couple of people. It is amazing and somewhat disheartening to know that many people are completely oblivious to CHs and what we go through. I was even telling my brave and tough wife that she doesn't know that kind of pain. She mentioned giving birth. I read her the part about that comparison. She kind of took offense. Of course it was tough for her and I admired what she did (and I was there every step of the way), giving birth without an epidural (it was too late by the time she asked for one). But I can understand where she is coming from, because people who expeerienced that can't imagine worse pain. But that worse pain is out there, as unfortunately all of us know.
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Ahhh, what a relief to be pain free. Hang in there. Good times are comin'.
 
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Reply #11 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 11:26am
 
Ace, not that it is a competition, but check this out: Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register

I don't know of anyone who has committed suicide over labor, but I have lost more than several friends over this pain. Fortunately, we have a lot of options that weren't available to us when DJ started this site in '98.

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