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Posted by Todd ( on July 11, 2001 at 07:28:38:

In Reply to: To all OUCH Members - A clarification and End to This Feud posted by Barbara D on July 11, 2001 at 05:47:44:

Along with a few other people, I've raised some points and asked some questions. Thus far, two Officers of OUCH have replied, but neither has answered any of the questions.

Barb, I have read ALL the Bylaws. As I said to Kip below, I'm lost. Can someone please point out to me where the Bylaws say that Officers are also BoD members? In the section describing Officers and their duties, the President Elect is specifically given one vote on the Board. This is not the case for any other Officers. This leads me to the logical assumption that only the Pres. Elect among the Officers votes with the BoD.

I have not been challenging the validity of the recommendation that the Convention be held in Vancouver. The perception (which your post confirms) is that this decision is final. If Officers are not members of the BoD, and the Convention location and date are to be approved by the BoD, this is not yet correct. The decision as to location and dates will be final only when the BoD approves the recommendation.

Prior to approval, why shouldn't members have the right to lobby BoD members regarding the location, if they so choose? Kip states that voting here on ch.com for Las Vegas in 2000 was a "fiasco". How so? As I recall, Vegas had been proposed and basically agreed upon until some people suggested it should be put to a vote. Following that vote, Vegas was still the selected location.

Since the Convention, I have been working with several other members on putting some structure around the issues and goals discussed on Saturday afternoon. Far from negativity or overwhelming BobP upon his return, this effort is geared towards positive accomplishment to move forward and, hopefully, having some more concrete, specific recommendations to give Bob a head start.
The first portion of this is now ready to be shared with all OUCH members and their input is solicited. See the link below.

As OUCH continues to grow and develop, it is critical that we are able to freely express and exchange opinions, ideas and suggestions. Terming such discussions negative or bickering or feuds does nothing to foster an atmosphere of open cooperation.

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