My scale is based on persistence not intensity.

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Posted by Dennis O'C ( on March 13, 2000 at 00:44:50:

In Reply to: Do I understand the Kip scale? posted by Dave on March 12, 2000 at 13:17:35:

The Kip Scale, as written, doesn't work well for me.

But then ...I've come to accept, that there are exceptions to every rule...and at this time ...affirming a precise definition of CH traits, causes, and relief mechanisms is like nailing jello to a tree.
I accept and value the Kip Scale as a loosly fitting blanket which covers the majority of CHers...whose paths cross at this site.

Mine donít ease in...they hit and go ballistic almost immediatley. They leave the same way.

Using the KS as a benchmark...mine are as follows:

Pain level 00
No pain, life is beautiful.

Pain level 0
No pain, but precursors present... strange sensations in my left nostril,and a kind of pressure (shadows?) in various parts of the left side of my head.

Pain level 1 (Kip 1-5?)
Stabs of pain on the left temple and/or behind my eye and/or the back molar and/or top of my head.

Pain level 2 (Kip 6-8?)
Excruciating pain in all of those areas at once...with major stabs jumping from one area to the other.

Pain level 3 (Kip 9?)
Pain persists as above.

Pain level 4 (Kip 10?) Would only happen once...then suicide.

-Sleep is never possible at and after Level 1.
-Iím not posting...or doing anything but sucking O2, moaning, and surviving from Level 1 to the end.
-The difference between my 2 and 3 is purely a matter of time... not intensity...Level 3 occurs 15 minutes Level 2 persists.

Sweet dreams

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