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PerryA
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De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« on: Dec 9th, 2004, 12:46pm » |
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I am new to this site. Have been plagued with CH for about 4 years, chronic, excruciating, located on the left side. I am also prone to kidney stone attacks. My question is,
Has anyone else noticed a de-sensitization to other forms of pain as a result of the extreme pain experienced from CH?
During my last 2 trips to the ER for kidney stones, I noticed that the pain was not as severe as the previous 11 stones. In fact, a couple of weeks ago, the admissions clerk doubted that it was stones because of my calm nature.
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Re: De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« Reply #1 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 12:50pm » |
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Welcome Perry and sorry you're here. I think people who experience chronic and/or intense pain start becoming stronger in response to it. We have to be able to deal with it so our bodies and minds help us do that. Is that a silver lining in this CH cloud? Hmmm. Pain free wishes to you from another chronic...
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 1:13pm » |
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Yes, I think clusterheads learn a few Jedi mind tricks. Maybe not enough to turn the pain off, but to compartmentalize it somewhat. Or maybe the extreme pain just burns out some of the neurons.
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 1:20pm » |
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I've had kidney stones twice. My first time in I needed surgery. Before the surgery, my neuro stopped by my hospital room and said ... "I just had to ask; which is worse, clusterheadaches or kidney stones?". I assured him that clusters were worse.
Morphine stopped my pain when I had kidney stones. It won't do jack for a cluster attack.
I'd rather have stones everyday
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Re: De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« Reply #4 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 5:04pm » |
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That's interesting to know.
Never had a kidney stone but had several broken bones, one had to be re-broken at the hospital before setting it properly, have 5 crushed disks in my neck.... lots of shit. Severed ulnar nerve sure wasn't any fun. That's where your hit your funny bone. I hit it with a window. The window broke and severed the nerve. So I had the ultimate "funny bone hit". Only this one has never truly gone away. I'm numb forever in the bottom of my right hand, pinky and 1/2 of the next finger part of my palm and forearm. Once I accidentally rested my pinky on my BBQ. Smelled the burning flesh and moved my hand but never felt the burning sensation. Wierd.
So far the CHs have easily been the worst
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Re: De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« Reply #5 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 5:41pm » |
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Ladies, What's worse on the pain scale - delivering a bay or a full blown CH?
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 6:17pm » |
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gotta agree on the kidney stone thing! I have one right now and it is NOTHING! I have been assured it is a large one from cat scan but it hasn't been that bad. painful but NOTHING compared to a cluster.
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Re: De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« Reply #7 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 8:05pm » |
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Most mothers with CH will say they would deliver another baby in a heartbeat rather than another CH.
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 9:19pm » |
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I would have a baby any day of the week over a cluster.
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 9:47pm » |
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Not really. Recently my appendix exploded. Needed emergency surgery. The whole ordeal hurt like hell. Just was diagnosed with sciatica. That hurts like hell to.
The pain is just as real. The differance I think is that as a CH sufferer I am better able to psychologically tolerate it. Pain is not new to us.
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 9:49pm » |
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on Dec 9th, 2004, 12:46pm, PerryA wrote:
Has anyone else noticed a de-sensitization to other forms of pain as a result of the extreme pain experienced from CH?
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You mean there is other pain besides ch? Wow I never knew......... :-/
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 9:57pm » |
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on Dec 9th, 2004, 12:46pm, PerryA wrote:| Has anyone else noticed a de-sensitization to other forms of pain as a result of the extreme pain experienced from CH? |
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I think we've learned how to control pain because of the condition we have maybe. But I still feel it ;;D
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Re: De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« Reply #12 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 10:24pm » |
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[We have to be able to deal with it so our bodies and minds help us do that. Is that a silver lining in this CH cloud? Hmmm.]
Thank you for your warm welcome.
It does make sense, the body and mind will help us cope with certain types of distress.
But, a silver lining-UNDECIDED!
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Re: De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« Reply #13 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 11:54pm » |
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on Dec 9th, 2004, 9:47pm, don wrote:
Recently my appendix exploded. Needed emergency surgery. The whole ordeal hurt like hell. |
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You're lucky. The security gate guard where I work, a hardnosed stubborn super healthy older guy, had his appendix rupture. He hated doctors so he waited too long to go in and get examined. Once he finally went in it was too late. He died a couple of days later because of complications with the infection and poisoning.
Being tough is OK. Being dumb isn't.
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Re: De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« Reply #14 on: Dec 10th, 2004, 4:53pm » |
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me too! nuthin' else seems to bother me anymore, only the clusters!
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Re: De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« Reply #15 on: Dec 10th, 2004, 7:09pm » |
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Posted by: floridian
Posted on: Dec 9th, 2004, 12:13pm
Yes, I think clusterheads learn a few Jedi mind tricks. Maybe not enough to turn the pain off, but to compartmentalize it somewhat. Or maybe the extreme pain just burns out some of the neurons.
Thank you for your thoughts. Like Nani said, makes sense.
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Re: De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« Reply #16 on: Dec 10th, 2004, 7:26pm » |
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Posted by: unsolved1
Posted on: Dec 9th, 2004, 12:20pm
I'd rather have stones everyday
Thank you for your comments.
I agree with you 100%! That is my concern.
If we become so accustomed to extreme pain that we do not notice-or pay any mind to-other pains resulting from injuries (forklift rolling over my foot, hand sliced open with a chainsaw, etc.) or medical conditions (kidney stones, heart conditions, hernia, etc.) then there is the possibility these injuries and/or conditions can worsen, becoming life threatening.
I know this sounds ridiculous, like the ranting and raving of "another ugly, old, man..."
So please excuse this newbie.
"just coping and hoping"
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« Reply #17 on: Dec 10th, 2004, 10:07pm » |
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I dont think so. Smack me in the kneecap with a ball peen hammer, I'm going to the ER.
I double over with cramps and pain, I'm going to the ER.
I got blood oozing from my eyeballs, ER.
I get a CH, I'm kicking my whiney "I get migraines to" neighbor in the nuts and he's going to the ER.
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Re: De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« Reply #18 on: Dec 10th, 2004, 10:26pm » |
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I dont think so. Smack me in the kneecap with a ball peen hammer, I'm going to the ER.
I am beginning to realize that this is really nothing to be concerned about.
I DO feel other pains-such as those listed in my last post. As several wonderful people have pointed out,
our tolerance may increase, not our sensitivity.
Thank all of you for helping me with this question.
...just coping and hoping...
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« Reply #19 on: Dec 10th, 2004, 10:31pm » |
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Yup. Thats it. But my whiney "I get bad headaches to" neighbor is still getting a kick in the nuts.
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Re: De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« Reply #20 on: Dec 10th, 2004, 10:45pm » |
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Yup. Thats it. But my whiney "I get bad headaches to" neighbor is still getting a kick in the nuts.
That neighbor of yours sounds like a real P.I.T.A.
GO FOR IT-HE DESERVES IT!!!
they all do!
...just coping and hoping...
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Re: De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« Reply #21 on: Dec 10th, 2004, 10:50pm » |
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There's a scene at the beginning of Lawrence of Arabia where Lawrence holds a burning match until it goes out.
[Lawrence has just extinguished a match between his thumb and forefinger. William Potter surreptitiously attempts the same]
William Potter: Ooh! It damn well 'urts!
T.E. Lawrence: Certainly it hurts.
Officer: What's the trick then?
T.E. Lawrence: The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts.
We here learn the trick... not minding that it hurts.
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Re: De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« Reply #22 on: Dec 11th, 2004, 12:23pm » |
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on Dec 10th, 2004, 10:07pm, don wrote:
I get a CH, I'm kicking my whiney "I get migraines to" neighbor in the nuts and he's going to the ER. |
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LMAO. Good one don.
I don't think the pain of a cluster attack can be compared to the pain caused by a ballpeen hammer to the knee or kidney stones or broken bones or burns or any other. Cluster pain is one-of-a-kind pain, unique to itself. There just isn't any other pain like it.
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Re: De-sensitization to other types of pain?
« Reply #23 on: Dec 11th, 2004, 2:37pm » |
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i just sprained my back, and i've been finishing college finals, so i haven't been able to rest it. a ch comes on, all i feel is the ch. the ch goes away for a few hours, i can feel my back again. but yeah, i probably tolerate the pain better than most would because of having to tolerate the severe pain of ch.
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« Reply #24 on: Feb 2nd, 2005, 9:14pm » |
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I had to have an emergency appendectomy a couple of years back and the ER staff were amazed that I dealt with the pain for three days before deciding to go to the ER .....
I think it makes the average CH pain threshold higher than that of average folks ... kind of a strength in a bizarre sort of way.. but a weakness on the otherhand ... <sigh >
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