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Re: no longer chronic
« Reply #175 on: Feb 8th, 2005, 9:53am »
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Tried the shrooms 10 days ago for the first time and have been PF since.  Prior to that, non-stop cycle for 6 months, with at least 2 hits a day.    
 
Can I get excited now?

 
We'll submit your request to get excited when the board reconvenes. Unfortunately there are several submissions of excitedness ahead of yours on the agenda and this may create a quagmire.
 
In the meantime I'll be excited for you Langa.
 
WOOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Re: no longer chronic
« Reply #176 on: Feb 8th, 2005, 9:59am »
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on Feb 8th, 2005, 9:53am, Flounder wrote:

 
We'll submit your request to get excited when the board reconvenes. Unfortunately there are several submissions of excitedness ahead of yours on the agenda and this may create a quagmire.
 
In the meantime I'll be excited for you Langa.
 
WOOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

 
Okay, I'll wait-LOL...in the meantime, i'm doing the happy dance...
 
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« Reply #177 on: Feb 8th, 2005, 10:43am »
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on Feb 8th, 2005, 9:30am, cat14 wrote:
Anyone know long term affects with doing shrooms? If any for us chronics, thinking of going that route soon here maybe?

Well as far as studies on toxicity, most were done prior to or in the early sixties and it was found to be very safe from a toxicology point of view. More importantly, (to me) this drug has been used for centuries and widely used for the past 40 years. In my opinion, if it caused problems, they would be well known by now.
 
The only catch is psychological health. People with...well, mental problems...are more likely to manifest psychological problems. This probably wouldn't even be a factor at the small doses used for CH.  
 
I'd say the biggest long-term effect would be the legal risk. I think it's a small, well justified risk, but it is what makes shrooms somewhat dangerous to a CHer (hey, now's a good time to read my signature)
 
The point: Far safer than most drugs used for CH except for legal risks.
 
Good Luck. One long term effect could be no more CH!
 
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« Reply #178 on: Feb 10th, 2005, 11:11am »
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Langa:  *YAY* and *happy dance*  (i'll be excited, along with flounder, for you!)
 
Cat . . .Dr. Sewell (Harvard) was actually discussing the side effects too . .. and he found nothing to indicate any problems.  The question came up due to a concern about sperm health.  
 
JJA, I would agree . . .The best side-effect is being p/f and enjoying life again!
 
38 WEEKS  PAIN FREE
(2 doses to break the chronic cycle, preventative doses every 2 to 3 months)
 
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« Reply #179 on: Feb 11th, 2005, 10:35am »
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*YAY* Kim Grin
 
WooHoo to you too Langa.  Hope you're still PF.
 
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« Reply #180 on: Feb 11th, 2005, 10:53am »
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on Feb 10th, 2005, 11:11am, miapet wrote:

 
Dr. Sewell (Harvard) was actually discussing the side effects too . .. and he found nothing to indicate any problems.  The question came up due to a concern about sperm health.  
 

 
Just got that info....the big selling point for a newlywed who is trying to break cycle or thinking about starting a family soon.....
 
Glad it continues and awesome news for the rest who are following the lead....
 
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Re: no longer chronic
« Reply #181 on: Feb 11th, 2005, 11:19am »
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Eric,
I know you consider the risk of this treatment to be to high because of its legal status but having open minded sperm seems a small price to pay.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #182 on: Feb 13th, 2005, 11:12pm »
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I am new to the board and think its great you are pain free!!  I get the headaches for about 3 months a year.  I was reading the site because I would rather never get them.  I am just glad to hear all is well and for such a long time!!  Angela
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« Reply #183 on: Feb 14th, 2005, 10:30am »
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Eric . . .glad you're considering now  .. .hope the news eases lil-jo's mind *smiles*
 
Friend . . .check out www.clusterbusters.com there is a lot of good info.  D has not had a single CH since breaking his chronic cycle.
 
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« Reply #184 on: Feb 14th, 2005, 6:28pm »
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Glad all continue to be PF!!!
 
I'm considering it!!
 
Got my a$$ kicked this morning just as I was walking into my first case........
 
The father looked at me and knew..tells me take as long as you need!....Wish all were so sympathetic!
It nearly brought the mother to tears....
 
Spent over an hour in my car ...emptied an E tank and 1/2 an injection and still didn't break.
 
Honestly the worst one I have had in a while.....I'm usually able to abort quick!
 
Anyway.....If I do go down this path I will certainly need advice and help in cultivation.
 
I have a pretty green thum so hopefully that will help!
 
I hear Ecuadorians, B's or Puerto Ricans are the way to go due to speed of growth and "effect"
 
Is this true?
Getting close.....
My cycle is now nearly as long as D is PF.....
 
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« Reply #185 on: Feb 14th, 2005, 10:22pm »
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I am new to all this and the drug thing.  Are you all talking about mushrooms? If yes...how do you know how to do it and the dose thing and all that.  I just want to know so if nothing else works then I know what to do.  Thanks!!  Angela
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« Reply #186 on: Feb 15th, 2005, 6:08am »
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Friend -  
 
Yes, they're talking about psilocybin mushrooms. Information is available at: www.clusterbusters.com
 
Best treatment there is, for many, if only we can prove it. Don't necessarily need to take a trip, and they're not necessarily illegal everywhere, just most places - like the US and Canada...and I'm not so sure about Canada. Legal in the UK (for now) and the Netherlands.
 
For many, a few small doses - a week apart and barely enough for a buzz - can end a cycle. Others need more effort. Your mileage may vary. This is not for everyone. Folks with a predisposition toward certain mental illnesses should not take hallucinogens of any kind.  
 
Research thoroughly and ask questions; experts are standing by, or hanging around, or taking a nap somewhere... anyway they'll be by to answer questions.
 
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« Reply #187 on: Feb 15th, 2005, 11:56am »
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Eric . . .I've heard the ecuadorians are a 1st choice for many new 'farmers' as they are easy to grow, are hearty, and good producers.  I think, as long as you don't pick one of the 'finicky' ones to try first, you can have good results with most of the varieties.  
Yes, Eric, it hasn't slipped our attention that your cycle has been about the length of D's p/f time . . .we'll also notice when you are counting your p/f days .. .weeks .. .months .. .*smiles*
Friend, as tommyD said . . .they appear to be our best bet against the beast .. .and people will be around to answer questions . . .I also second his suggestion of reading www.clusterbusters.com as a lot of questions will be answered .. .along with a lot more being brought up *g*
Thanks tommyD (and others) for watching this thread, and answering people's questions!  much love to you all *smiles*
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« Reply #188 on: Feb 15th, 2005, 1:10pm »
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on Feb 15th, 2005, 11:56am, miapet wrote:
Eric . . .I've heard the ecuadorians are a 1st choice for many new 'farmers' as they are easy to grow, are hearty, and good producers.  

Just tried these, and I will say this they are potent also.  But have seemed to help immensely.
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« Reply #189 on: Feb 15th, 2005, 3:44pm »
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guesst, *YAY* glad you're finding success!
 
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« Reply #190 on: Feb 15th, 2005, 6:24pm »
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Thanks for the advice...we looked and the site and got all the info we needed.  I did go to the nuero today and he gave me elavil today.  Does anyone know if that works?  He did seem kinda stupid and maybe wasnt listening to me.  He is going to send me for an MRI and EEG so we will see what comes of that.  But I will use the info from that page to make sure I dont get them!!! Thanks again....Angela
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« Reply #191 on: Feb 15th, 2005, 6:52pm »
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Here's a question regarding detox.......
 
I happen to have some other HA types as well and I take indocin as a prevent which has deminished those.....I had decresed that for a while b/c it effects stomach yet the zaps came back....
 
(i tend to ramble..apologies)
 
If detoxing from the other stuff b/c wanting to try it for CH .....
 
Does anyone know "from experience" if this might help those as well....Kinda a tougher situation...
 
Want to get rid of the beast yet when you have "mini beasts" as well ????????????What to do?
 
Dr. Sewell have an answer for that one?
 
Thanks a bunch!!!!
 
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« Reply #192 on: Feb 16th, 2005, 9:24am »
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Eric, what other kind of h/as are you talking about?  I know there has been great help for more than 1 migraner (me included) .. . .
When it's time to dose, I detox D from everything but essential meds.  He used to be on B/P meds, so we kept that (no not Verep) going.  Now, I detox him off everything (he even goes off the supplements) . . .5 day minimum  .. .. and I keep him off for a few days after, to make sure everything 'takes'.
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« Reply #193 on: Feb 16th, 2005, 9:59am »
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Eric, if you can stand it, I'd detox just to be on the safe side. I think I know what you mean about "zaps" (like a cluster pain, but lasting only a few seconds).  I rarely, if ever, get "zaps" except a for a few days after treatment.  Then I get "zapped" for a couple of days before everything clears up. Hopefully this would clear up your "zaps" too. (I think it comes and goes with CH). Things may get worse before they get better, but don't lose faith.
 
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« Reply #194 on: Feb 16th, 2005, 10:40am »
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I believe indocin (indomethacin) is an NSAID.  Please see the below excerpt from clusterbusters.com
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There are medications which will probably not interfere with the actions of psilocybin:
 
1) antibiotics  
2) NSAIDs (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) such as tylenol (acetaminophen), aspirin, ibuprofen, Vioxx (rofecoxib), etc.  
3) antacids and anti-ulcer medications  
4) asthma medications  
5) insulin  
 
It must be noted that the above category reflects personal opinions. We have seen no reports of interactions with these medications, and suspect that the mechanisms by which these medications act is too different from the action by which psilocybin and LSD work for there to be any significant interaction.

 
I used to get those "zaps" occasionally too, which although not officially diagnosed, I put down to idiopathic stabbing headache (now called primary stabbing headache I believe).  Not had one of those at all since dosing some seven months ago.
 
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I believe indocin (indomethacin) is an NSAID.  Please see the below excerpt from clusterbusters.com
 
I used to get those "zaps" occasionally too, which although not officially diagnosed, I put down to idiopathic stabbing headache (now called primary stabbing headache I believe).  Not had one of those at all since dosing some seven months ago.
 
All the best with it
 
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Bingo!! and thanks for the info!!
Bringing me closer Wink
PF wishes!
 
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« Reply #196 on: Feb 16th, 2005, 12:07pm »
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eek ..it's Wednesday and, I almost forgot, 39 weeks p/f

 
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« Reply #197 on: Feb 16th, 2005, 12:38pm »
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So by my calculations, next week will be full term! Roll Eyes
 
Thereafter, induction maybe necessary. Tell D to stay off the nitroglycerin! Shocked Wink
 
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« Reply #198 on: Feb 16th, 2005, 1:49pm »
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hehe . . .now Lee . . . ya know all that other stuff we do may lead to the need for nitro hahahahahahah  being h/a free has taken us down many paths of ummmmmmmmm exploration hahahahahahahahahah
thanks for the well wishes . . .you, the other busters, and all potential new busters will be invited to the ceremony *L*
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Bump back to the top.
 
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