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New here and scared to death
Aug 20th, 2008 at 7:45am
 
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I am so relieved to have found this site.I am(or was) a healthy and relatively happy 37 year old man. I was working out 5-6 times a week but thats all changed now that I have a "beast" of my very own. I have been basically house bound for the last eight weeks. I am either in excruciating pain or waiting for it to start again.I have been prescribed alot of drugs in the last eight weeks(verapimil,compazine Imitrex and some others I cant really remember)The imitrex works to take the pain away but after 6 hours I feel the Beast awakening  and It starts all over again. I am at the point where I just don't know what to do. I started to think I had something wrong inside my head but a ct scan ruled that out and I was tested for lymes disease which was negative so now I'm waiting to see a neurologist. I am at the end of my rope I haven't slept in what seems like weeks and weeks I feel like I'm going crazy. I am not usually an emotional person but lately I just start crying for no good reason.I feel like my life is over and I want to run out into traffic. I am also not a religious person but I now find myself praying to god often when the beast is with me it doesn't usually help
This illness or sickness or whatever the hell it is is taking its toll on my relationship with my wife and 6 month old son I. She just stands by helplessly and watches me turn into the shell of the person I used to be.I know these headaches are cyclical and are supposed to end but I just don't beleive it.I'm relieved to know I'm not alone (I don't mean I'm relieved to know that others  are suffering like I am just glad that I have found an outlet to turn to in the middle of the night when I feel like I'm dying) I dont know what else to say so I'll just say thanks for now
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Re: New here and scared to death
Reply #1 - Aug 20th, 2008 at 8:35am
 
I'm so sorry you're suffering through this!

I know what you're going through...the pain can be quite immense, but if I may give you some advice:

DON'T WAIT FOR THE PAIN TO BEGIN AGAIN!

When you're concentrating on the pain even when you don't have it, it takes your whole life away. It's can be difficult to adjust to having chronic or near-chronic pain, but your life isn't over. You might not be able to do all the things you used to do, but you can do a lot of things when you're not in pain.

I did a lot of research and concentrated on the CH for maybe 8 months since it started. I practically spent all my waking moments trying to find a cure for it. Since then, I've just begun living my life normally during the time I'm not in pain. I can still go to the movies, clean my house, make dinner, work part-time, have fun with my friends and family, etc etc. By accepting my condition as a new part of my life and stopping concentrating on it when it's not present, the quality of my life became far better. You can do these things as well!

I know it's hard to do, but try to accept the condition as well. Look for a cure, but don't spend your entire time concentrating on the pain. Concentrate on having fun and living your life as best you can. Believe me, it's really important. Acting like your life is over is a self-fulfilling kind of thing.

- Best wishes and hope you'll feel better soon,
Rosa
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Reply #2 - Aug 20th, 2008 at 9:04am
 
Too many people here have had bad experiences with neurologists who have little skill in treating Cluster. First, insure that you have selected a competent doc.
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LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Search the OUCH site (button on left) for a list of recommended M.D.s.

2. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

3.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register; On-line screen to find a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box.  Call 1-800-643-5552; they will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.
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Start educating yourself; it's a major source of self-care. This article is excellent as a starting point. (Link shown to get the complete article.)
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Cluster headache.
From: Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register (Orphanet Journal of Rare Diseases)
[Easy to read; one of the best overview articles I've seen. Suggest printing the full length article if you are serious about keeping a
good medical library on the subject.]

Leroux E, Ducros A.

ABSTRACT: Cluster headache (CH) is a primary headache disease characterized by recurrent short-lasting attacks (15 to 180 minutes) of excruciating unilateral periorbital pain accompanied by ipsilateral autonomic signs (lacrimation, nasal congestion, ptosis, miosis, lid edema, redness of the eye). It affects young adults, predominantly males. Prevalence is estimated at 0.5-1.0/1,000. CH has a circannual and circadian periodicity, attacks being clustered (hence the name) in bouts that can occur during specific months of the year. ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY DIETARY TRIGGER OF CH, STRONG ODORS (MAINLY SOLVENTS AND CIGARETTE SMOKE) AND NAPPING MAY ALSO TRIGGER CH ATTACKS. During bouts, attacks may happen at precise hours, especially during the night. During the attacks, patients tend to be restless. CH may be episodic or chronic, depending on the presence of remission periods. CH IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRIGEMINOVASCULAR ACTIVATION AND NEUROENDOCRINE AND VEGETATIVE DISTURBANCES, HOWEVER, THE PRECISE CAUSATIVE MECHANISMS REMAIN UNKNOWN. Involvement of the hypothalamus (a structure regulating endocrine function and sleep-wake rhythms) has been confirmed, explaining, at least in part, the cyclic aspects of CH. The disease is familial in about 10% of cases. Genetic factors play a role in CH susceptibility, and a causative role has been suggested for the hypocretin receptor gene. Diagnosis is clinical. Differential diagnoses include other primary headache diseases such as migraine, paroxysmal hemicrania and SUNCT syndrome. At present, there is no curative treatment. There are efficient treatments to shorten the painful attacks (acute treatments) and to reduce the number of daily attacks (prophylactic treatments). Acute treatment is based on subcutaneous administration of sumatriptan and high-flow oxygen. Verapamil, lithium, methysergide, prednisone, greater occipital nerve blocks and topiramate may be used for prophylaxis. In refractory cases, deep-brain stimulation of the hypothalamus and greater occipital nerve stimulators have been tried in experimental settings.THE DISEASE COURSE OVER A LIFETIME IS UNPREDICTABLE. Some patients have only one period of attacks, while in others the disease evolves from episodic to chronic form.

PMID: 18651939 [PubMed]
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Reply #3 - Aug 20th, 2008 at 9:12am
 
Hey man, sorry to hear about the beast.   We all know where you're coming from and it sucks.  As Ungweliante said, don't wait for the next one.  Enjoy your PF moments and just getting your mind off it alone helps.  Deal with the beast as he comes.  Do research and READ a ton on this site.  You'll learn many ways to fight this prick.  Keep up on the exercising too.  I do these pumping exercises or just a simple jog to get the blood flowing away from my head.  I use Imitrex usually an hour before I know a CH will come on since mine are like clockwork.

Is this your first cycle ever?  How many CH do you get a day?

Do not get down and educate your wife so she knows how to deal with it too.  My wife of 4 years is very educated with the CH and has been well before we were married.  I have an 19 month year old boy myself and he alone takes my mind off of CH.  I'm currently in remission, but i'm here to support everybody because I look at it like we're a team.  Our enemy is the beast and he can be beaten down, he will always get up again, but we're prepared, we're positive, and we WON'T let him ruin our lives.

Read this site thoroughly!

Wishing you PF days ahead  Smiley
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Reply #4 - Aug 20th, 2008 at 9:54am
 
One thing you didn't mention... Have you tried O2?  That's the first choice of most of us here.... 15-25 liters a minute with a NON-REBREATER mask. If your neuro didn't put you on that first thing - get a new neuro!!!!!  That's the first line of defense....

Also melatonin at night before bed.... start with 3-5mg and work up to 15-20mg. It helps you get thru the REM sleep (where the CH hits) and lets you get some rest at night (most of the time).

Also have you tried RED BULL (or another energy drink with caffeine and taurine - at least 1000mg of taurine -read the lable). It will sometimes abort a hit if you get to it when it starts. I use it with the O2 and it works most of the time.

Be careful with pain meds - they will cause rebound headaches and really don't help anyhow. How much verap are you taking. Most have to take a large dose for it to do any good.

Ice packs (or heat - your choice) help some. I keep frozen peas in the freezer - they fit wherever I need them and are about the easiest ice pack I know of.

Stick around, ask questions, read -- we're all here to help... and you're not alone anymore.

Hugs BD
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Reply #5 - Aug 20th, 2008 at 10:06am
 
Hi and welcome,

I just wanted to offer a warm welcome to you.  Sorry you are suffering. 

You have already been given some good advice.  Please stay around and learn all you can.  The help I received from the wonderful people here saved my life. 

PF wishes,

Jeannie
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Reply #6 - Aug 20th, 2008 at 10:10am
 
I am a christian and I pray and pray, yet this thing still comes. so instead of praying for myself , i will pray for you.
the good people on this site will give you great information most of which works for me. what i will add is the please arm youself with knoweldge, support, and a good dr (can be hard to find). this will help reduce the anxiety and fear.

you are not alone.
maybe have your wife read here too, so she can get some info and support for her.
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Reply #7 - Aug 20th, 2008 at 10:11am
 
I am a christian and I pray and pray, yet this thing still comes. so instead of praying for myself , i will pray for you.
the good people on this site will give you great information most of which works for me. what i will add is the please arm youself with knoweldge, support, and a good dr (can be hard to find). this will help reduce the anxiety and fear.

you are not alone.
maybe have your wife read here too, so she can get some info and support for her.
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Reply #8 - Aug 20th, 2008 at 10:40am
 
Dear Worst Pain Ever:

I feel your anguish.  I, too, am a Christian, and I too pray.  God is good, but never promised us a pain-free life.  Not wanting to get into a theological discussion in an open forum, you can PM me anytime you like.  If you would like to talk to someone with 21 years experience with the "beast" PM me and give me your number -- I will call you!

I have a few other things to say, off the bat.  Bob Johnson has provided EXCELLENT background material for you and your wife to read.  The OUCH websiteMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register provides additional material to read and learn.

Knowledge is a GREAT thing.

Secondly, there are 2 AWFUL life wasters that most of us (and me certainly) went through.  Please avoid these if you possibly can.  Searching for the "Holy Grail" of a "cure" for these headaches -- It lead me to seek out the "experts in the field" of Cluster Headaches.  I traveled farther then most, going to 2 countries outside the USA (but hey, I'm stubborn!).  The other life waster has been mentioned -- waiting/anticipating/fearing the next Cluster Headache.

The main thing that I try to do is to live my life to the fullest possible between hits.  I try to have my "tools" (in my case, injectable Imitrex and Oxygen) with me or near by at all times, and just go out and live life.

Please seriously consider giving me a call, as speaking with someone who's got a similar problem can be a tremendous experience.

If not me, there is a Family Services Support Team -- Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register.  I have NOT taken advantage of this service, HOWEVER, I know these people through contact with them for nearly 1 1/2 years on this forum and they feel like old friends and have wonderful advice.

Lastly, read, learn, ask questions, rant, and you'll do well.  It's scary to go through this, but you can and will thrive as a father, husband, and person.

Wishing you well,

Ray
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Reply #9 - Aug 20th, 2008 at 10:51am
 
This is a great place for support.   These people will help you find all sorts of information and make recommendations that one would have never thought of before.  I am one of the lucky ones...I am episodic the worst beginning October 18th and lasting a mere 3 days.  There is so much information you can go on overload.    I have spent alot of my free time reading up on CH and it is mind boggling.    Read as much as you can and if you have any questions ask...they are more than happy to oblige.


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Reply #10 - Aug 20th, 2008 at 10:52am
 
Welcome to the board, you're in a dark place right now, one we've all been in. There is no cure yet for these things but they can be manages. It just takes a lot of patience, which is hard to come by when your head is exploding.

You need to get the oxygen prescribed, that should be your first line of defense. I can kill an attack in less then 6 minutes using the oxygen.

You need to get on a good preventative medication, one that will slow down the attacks a little. The more common ones are the verapamil, lithium and topomax. See if your GP can put you on a 2 week prednisone taper to get you some immediate relief. Most of us find prednisone will offer a temporary reprieve from the beast while we wait for our preventataive medication to take effect. Not something you should stay on long term cuz it beats up yourt body but you sound like you need a "rest and recovery period" in a really bad way.

They do end, WE really do understand, hang in there. Cry

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