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Oct 16th, 2008 at 11:10am
 
Hi,
My name is Patricia and I live in Connecticut. I have been a CH sufferer for 15 plus years. I went years being treated for a sinus condition before I was properly diagnosed. Since then I have tried all kinds of medications (drug cocktails). I am allergic to Imitrex and Topamax. I had gamma-knife surgery twice. I did have periods of remission after the surgery but I am back to trying to cope with living with the beast. Currently I take prednisone daily. I have oxygen, which works, THANK GOD, or I might have taken my life. Right now I feel very alone  and tend to isolate myself because of the desperation. I get about 2-4 attacks a day. The ones at night are the worst!!! I wear a "happy face" all day and use my sense of humor to get through the day but inside I live in terror. These damn headaches seem to have robbed me of being me! It is not my nature to feel this hopeless. I am taking an anti-depressant(which I hate) I was wondering if anyone else feels the same way I do and if so how do we get past all the negative feelings involved with our condition.
Thanks for taking the time to read this and I look forward to any advice . Hope all is well with my fellow sufferers and their families. Shocked
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Reply #1 - Oct 16th, 2008 at 11:33am
 
Hi Patricia,

Welcome.   Yes, I also suffer from depression.  I am episodic and my depression worsens during my cycles.  I have often wondered if maybe it all ties in together.  It seems many of my medical problems are centered around Seretonin.  I have been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia along with CH and depression.    I don't like taking anti-depressants either.  I have on several occasions tried to stop them but realize now that it is a medical condition that requires treatment just like any other disease. 

You did not mention if you were chronic or episodic.  If you are episodic and do not suffer from depression when out of cycle, I'm sure you will be able to go off  of the anti-depressant when your cycle is over.  Just think of the Anti-D as another weapon in your arsenal to fight the beast.  If you are chronic, I'm sure one of the other brave souls that battles the beast daily will be along to offer their advice.

The best thing I can tell you is to try to enjoy every minute of PF time you have.  A wise Ch'er once told me that if I surrender my PF time to the beast then I have let him win! 

Hang tough!  We're here for you if you need us!

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Reply #2 - Oct 16th, 2008 at 12:46pm
 
Hang in there Patricia.
     You are not alone here.  Keep that sense of humor going through the night.
     I have been fighting this thing for over 30 years and I know how hard it is.  I do know that it can't kill me and with the help of several people here, I can even make fun of it.
     Hope you get lots of PF time.

                                JPC
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Reply #3 - Oct 16th, 2008 at 4:36pm
 
Hi Tricia,

Glad you made it over here!  I think you will find a lot of good help from the family, and some great support as well. 

I think depression tends to run along with CH.  I was on anti depressants for a couple of years and weaned myself off with St John's Wort over about 6 months time.  NOTE, I am not recommending that!  I'm just telling you what I did.  I did it after I learned some things here that helped me get control of the CH, which helped with the depression, but I still needed a little help, especially weaning off the drugs.  You get very dependent on them.  Don't even think about quitting cold turkey! 

There is a lot of great info here, and please ask questions!  There is no such thing as a stupid question if it is an honest question.  You will find someone who has had experience with it I'm sure, and for the most part you will find folks here wanting to help and to answer.  As  you read print out anything you think might be pertinant to talk with your Dr about.  You may find some other avenues you want to go down with your treatment.  nothing works for everyone, and CH tends to change so that what works today may not tomorrow, so it is good to keep up with different ideas.

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Reply #4 - Oct 16th, 2008 at 4:58pm
 
Welcome Patricia,  You are no longer alone theres a big family here that knows how you feel.  Hang in there.     Phil
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Reply #5 - Oct 16th, 2008 at 8:02pm
 
Welcome to the board, you've mentioned a lot of abortives, meds you take to STOP a headache once it starts. But you haven't mentioned any preventatives. (other then topomax...aka dopeymax!) Have you tried lithium or verapamil as prevents? Everyone is different but for me, 1200 mg a day of lithium will block 80% of my attacks, really lessening my dependence on the oxygen. (I'm with you there, 02 has been a life saver!)

Glad you found us, wishing you some pain free time soon.

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Reply #6 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 2:25am
 
Welcome Patricia,

Having battled a few depressions myself, as I tend to suffer from a mild form of Seasonal Affected Disorder, I'm aware of the fact that Imitrex and fluoxetine (Prozac) are not to be taken together. Or any other kinds of anti-depressants of that strain for that matter.
But you mention taking no Trex coz of an allergy, so that won't be a problem.

Guess it comes with the territory somehow, our affliction and the feelings of despair. No wonder when you're being hit several times a day with the worst pain imaginable, not being able to do all the things you need/want to for 7 to 9 weeks.
But to me, the CH related depression always takes a hike as soon as it's clear the cycle is really over.

Here's hoping you will be fine again very soon,

Pascal.
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Reply #7 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 4:29am
 
I was diagnosed with CH some two years ago, after thankfully only a short period of misdiagnosis of sinus and other usual suspects. My doctor quickly understood the typical symptoms and put me on Ergotamine + Caffeine tablets which of course only ever started to kick in when the attack was coming to an end. Typical attack patterns of 30-45 min, 3-4 times a day for 6 weeks. Just finishing off my third cycle after 8 weeks. Although my second hot period has lasted longer I have learned through trial and error that, since the timings of my attacks are relatively consistent, I can take one Zomig tablet approx. 1 hour prior to the assumed next attack and in this way completely forego it. Managing the timings has allowed me to go for days without an attack (providing I didnt miss a bit that is). What complicates the process for me is the fact that I travel approx. 15-20 days per month and more importantly that I travel around the world and therefore have to deal with multiple timezones and jetlag. Since the biological clock and hypothalamus are directly linked to CH and since flying is a definite trigger for an attack I am still getting caught out on the timings occasionally. Notwithstanding, I am certain that for people who do not travel frequently and who feel that their attacks have consistent patterns, taking a Zomig (Zolmitriptan) an hour prior to the next "show" could work equally well and get them through days without pain. In essence, I believe that a "take one every 8 hours" approach can possibly allow for weeks of no pain. I am combining this treatment with a low histamine diet during hot periods and not only stay away from the famously known triggers alcohol, chocolate, tomatoes and others, but try to stay away completely from preserved and processed foods as well as sugar in any form. Regrettably the list of dont's is rather long and therefore it is not always easy to get a well balanced intake throughout the hot period (with the positive side effect being loss of weight!). I add lots of water to my daily intake and am adding magnesium and minerals to my fluid intake. I have recently been to see a neurologist in Germany who specialises in CH and have been told that a new therapy has shown promising results. A cortisone-steroid treatment is administered for two weeks at the start of the new cycle (I understand that 2 weeks are a manageable and relatively risk free duration for a cortisone treatment) and that, simultaneously, Vermapil is prescribed as prophylaxis. During the cortisone treatment, attacks can and should be reduced to zero. Thereafter, the Vermapil, which will have been taken for two weeks by then will have reached it potency to sustain the pain free periods after the cortisone treatment ends. It sounds promising and I will try next time. I hope that any of the above may help at least one of you. And even if it helps to cancel out only one single attack, its probably been worth the while.
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Reply #8 - Oct 18th, 2008 at 9:21am
 
Pat,

Yes, depresssion seems to go with CH. A good sense of humor is a great asset.

O2 is a lifesaver for about 70% of us. I swear by it. I keep ergotomine on hand for those times when O2 just won't do it (not many lately).

There are prevents out there that have worked on a lot of us (mine magic bullet is topamax and am sorry it didn't work for you, but I tried a LOT of stuff before I found something that worked for me, so don't give up till you find something).

Red Bull (or energy drinks with caffeine and at least 1000mg of taurine) at the first sign of a hit have worked for a bunch of us. Melatonin at night before bed has proven effective for a lot of us to prevent night-time hits (I swear by this also).

There's years and years of knowledge, advice and nonsense on this board. Read read read. And we're here to answer questions, give support when needed and just cheer you up when you need it. We're actually a good bunch of nutz and we DO understand.

But remember ONE thing -- When "I" go into one of MY deep dark blue "funks" I expect YOU to put an arm around my shoulders and give me a big sincere hug (or kick in the rear whichever is appropriate at the time). That's just good M Board etiquite. Welcome to Clusterville. Sorry you HAD to find us, but glad you did.

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