fly gas wrote on Dec 8^th, 2008 at 12:27pm:


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Please distinguish for us average people which are the bizarre and which have been debunked.






fly gas wrote on Dec 8^th, 2008 at 12:27pm:


fly gas wrote on Dec 6^th, 2008 at 7:27am:

fly gas
you posted on the initial post Quote:
yes, very good, ask, we all get to gather some more know how…..and that is what CH.com is for me, a platform for knowledge about our common malady! and yes, a place where I can talk about CH, and I know I am understood!
I am not attacking you, nor am I presumptuous or any thing, I just never heard the term AK (Applied Kinesiology) and I was simply asking you (or all) to explain it to me….. how can I attack you if I have no idea what are you talking about, and as I am interested to gather knowledge, that is why I am on this boards, and I simply ask you to explain to me what is  AK!
you post Quote:
well the same way you can ask I believe I can ask too! so pleas, take the time and explain for me the term, so I know what we are talking about…..

Michael

BTW I didn’t like Quote:
I might be as you call it ignorant, I do live in a remote village on the Alps…… but I am not stupid!.... so Pls. use proper language!

You are still pushing it for some reason? I actually went to one of these guys a few years back on the recommendation of an associate. I found it to be pure quackery at its best. I just did not remember what it was called. I called it holistic hooey!

You wanted the feedback and now I too will be accused of being uninformed also. If our feedback does not conform to your vision, we are labeled ignorant by you…

Could some-one explain for me what is Applied Kinesiology, in simple words, didn’t totally understand it, looked it up in wiki but some what seems very un organized, is it an alternative treatment, I never heard of this before this morning …..

Wildhaus,

Applied Kinesiology simply is a method of testing the body for allergies, and/or nerve, organ or muscle peculiarities.

My doctor uses touch or acupressure to test for nerve and muscle, and
tests about 400 substances on my body for allergies or deficiencies, using a ceramic magnet at three receptor points on the body.
The current from the poles of the magnet are supposed to accelerate the electron flow from the potential allergens. A positive will cause a distinct loss of strength, he has me push against his hand, and my hand just goes backwards if I test positive.
He uses deeper tests to root out false positives, and after analyzing results, he tries to fix any diagnosed problems, usually with acupressure, diet therapies and occasionally supplements. As opposed to most CH therapies whose goal is to contain the pain, AK as I understand it tries to find root causes why the body is allowing this pain to come out again, and then heal the problems, allowing the body to get back to a non episode like state of health, ergo heal itself so to speak. When doing AK, I have never dropped any other course of treatment that has been effective, this episode oxygen, showers and Zomig are the charm, but AK works parallel to my other doctors' work.
I doubt if this approach will work for everyone, I also doubt that many practitioners are 100% in their practice, as this is an evolving discipline, more the conjuncture of a number of disciplines.
Better explanations can be found at

Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to or

but as this is the site of the AK college, it is offered as a resource only.
Most studies on AK are skewed one way or the other, as if the writer has their mind made up before day one.

My experience has been good, others have not had luck.

This is why I keep asking for experiences from people who have actually tried it, not just read some blogs.

If you do try it, I wish you luck, and I hope you will share your results, positive or negative.

If it is not for you, that is OK also,
I wish you luck in whatever course you choose.

Chris

Chris, that is the most genuine post yet on AK. The guy I tried was very convincing, but the therapy still fell short of anything I would consider helpful for my chronic CH.

Best, Roland.

If I haven't said before, my experience with AK was that after 25 years of totally drug resistant CH, 21 years ago, I looked up an acupuncturist, who was also licensed in AK. I had been suffering an episode for almost a year, and on the second vivit, I had a small precursor walking out of the office. Then the Episode stopped.
Since then, over 21 years, the episodes that averaged maybe 4-6 months up, and were laced with a lot of 8-10 headaches, now average 2-6 weeks, and are generally 2-6's.

I don't claim that AK did anything.
I don't claim that it worked anything without she showers, oxygen and other therapies I used.
It could just be luck, or timing of a change in my cycles.
All I claim is that this is my own individual experience, but it is factual.

All I'm doing is asking if anyone else has had any experience with AK.

All I'm suggesting is that if we share our experiences and keep our opinions to ourselves, this would be a far more inteligent thread.

Heck, if I read any of the "papers" quoted in post's, I'd be running the other way, but  I thank God I didn't.

fly gas wrote on Dec 8^th, 2008 at 2:11pm:


Have you read your opinions?

What's funny is, when you post a link, footnote, resource, or study, it is used in an authoritative and substantive referenced manner, a better explanation.

fly gas wrote on Dec 6^th, 2008 at 8:40am:


fly gas wrote on Dec 6^th, 2008 at 8:40am:


fly gas wrote on Dec 6^th, 2008 at 3:00pm:


fly gas wrote on Dec 8^th, 2008 at 8:18am:


fly gas wrote on Dec 8^th, 2008 at 8:18am:


fly gas wrote on Dec 8^th, 2008 at 8:18am:


fly gas wrote on Dec 8^th, 2008 at 1:27pm:



But when someone else posts a link or, addresses the same link as you, it is:

fly gas wrote on Dec 8^th, 2008 at 12:27pm:


fly gas wrote on Dec 6^th, 2008 at 3:00pm:


fly gas wrote on Dec 8^th, 2008 at 11:06am:


fly gas wrote on Dec 8^th, 2008 at 12:50pm:


fly gas wrote on Dec 8^th, 2008 at 1:27pm:


fly gas wrote on Dec 8^th, 2008 at 8:18am:


fly gas wrote on Dec 6^th, 2008 at 8:40am:


Is it because when someone else posts a link, or the same link you mentioned, they are average people and you are not?


I saw some advice given earlier in the thread, how about if you read this for yourself.

fly gas wrote on Dec 8^th, 2008 at 11:06am:

This is not the first time this type of treatment has come up. If it works for you great. If someone likes to try it great. Some will disagree, great. Drive on. This blather is what I consider open discussion. Simply take what you want and leave the rest.
all the best
the bb

Yea, what they said...

AlienSpaceGuy wrote on Dec 8^th, 2008 at 6:38pm:



     Tom wouldn't use a ceramic magnet.

                Kinder gentler Potter

Way back in the dark ages, some folks came to ch.com with the suggestion that they could control their attacks with something new. They had strange names like PinkShark Mark, Flash and even Q chimed in. They gained a few followers and the villagers lit torches and screamed obscenities at the heretics.

In desperation, more people began to try their new methods and found that there just might be something to this………….except for the guy who did it wrong 

I’m NOT saying that AK is good, or even has any potential. I just hate to see the villagers lighting those damn torches at the sound of a single lost coyote in the distance.

Respectfully,

Marc

Mark,

I remember when the associate I spoke of earlier (who suffered from stress HA’s) referred me to one of the top 10 here in town. The guy gave me two stones to hold in my hands while he (in a hypnotic fashion) asked me to concentrate on my healing energy as he wiped the bad energy from my arms and legs with his hands. Not only did I feel violated but my wallet felt liberated… Oh what a feeling you get when you satisfy someone else’s wish for you to heal. I go through this manor of treatment vibes from my mother all the time. She is a holistic guru supporter who spreads the word far too often for me…

Roland.