That's great sledgehammer . Don't forget that the Regimen includes boron and vitamin K2 (see the link in my sig line).

Husband took 500 mg of magnesium the past two dinners, but had unpleasant heart pounding sensations last night. He seems to tolerate 500 mg in one dose, digestion-wise.

I am going to switch the type of magnesium. His current supplement is a "magnesium complex source of oxide, malate and glycerophosphate". I've read, however, that magnesium oxide has only a 4% rate of absorption - so maybe rather than upping his dose a better formulation would be good.

I'm going to try this brand:
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"Albion" process chelation used for that supplement (and some others) is thought by some to have the best absorption with minimal digestive issues.

feisty wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 6:47pm:


Thanks for the reminder! I have an opointment to get my blood work done, but its still a few weeks out. I dont want to overdo it until I see where Im at.

shortstraw wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 11:48pm:



Hi Alan

Don't get discouraged, it took me over 6 month to get my head some what under control!

and (at the moment) my doc's say I do not qualify as  ICCH, and are more then happy with the situation!

In essence, it might take some time to get were we would like to be, and the way might be stony -
but being over 95% pain free is a gift I have at times
stopded to believe I will ever get

And with such a simple method, with very small risks, if at all!

Michael

I second that, keep at it alan !

question,  for those taking the regime, and pain free
  how many or who are also taking other preventatives ie
verapamil ????
I know there are a lot that the regime is working 100 % on its own, but for those that it has only dramatically reduced its effects, is verapamil or similar making you completely pain free   ?  very interested in everyones comments.
I'll quantify my question.
Ive been on the regime for about a year and a few months.
pryor to that, verapamil only, verapamil helped when I went into my next cycle, it took the extreme edge off the attacks, instead of kip 10, that cycle was kip7 average, quite noticeable.   while being on the regime and verapamil, only 240mg, any more and I fall over, January this year, heavy shadows came calling,, I was 200 nmol, I titrated up for about 2 weeks, the shadows disappeared and i didn't go into cycle, i gat tested and i was at 235 nmol.    I went off verapamil in early may, which knocked me about, in july shadows came, titrated up for two weeks again, but the cycle came !  average kip 5 for three weeks.
after tinkering with magnesium levels, calcium, fish oil, the cycle stayed.  perhaps, the combination of the regime and the relatively low dose of 240 verapamil is where i have to be ?  wont know now till nov-jan when a cycle normally rears its head. If it does, i was planning on making sure my d3 level was at 230 nmol, using prednisone on a tapered course and getting the verapamil into my system to see if the combination was indeed what killed this Januaries cycle on its arse !  verapamil on its own, just takes the edge off, but both may be my answer.
so interested to hear from others that are pain free on the regime, plus a preventative, that maybe didn't work for them until they added the vit d3 regime ????????
cheers
col

feisty wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 3:53pm:
Another update.

It's now looking like the heart symptoms are NOT related to the Regimen. It's been 19 days since my husband discontinued the entire Regimen, and he is still getting irregular and pounding heart sensations. He was concerned enough to see a general practitioner doctor today about it. Doc said it was unrelated to the regimen and has ordered various tests including ECG and 24 hr Holter.

I'm glad to know that it is not related to the Regimen. Husband is planning to resume it once the dust settles following testing.

Best to all of you.

Good move in getting it fully checked out. Hope all goes well with this.

Hi feisty,
            at least they have identified an issue, that's good.
  I haven't searched back thru threads, but didn't you mention that your husband already had a specific issue with his heart ?  I seem to remember something about that.
  whether ch can be pin pointed as a cause or whether it just aggrevated  a pre existing worstening condition, I don't know, but at least now the doctors can treat this issue and any meds for ch can be cross checked with the cardiologist, then he can move forward with controlling his clusters.  Im not sure whether or not you said he was on a channel blocker, verapamil for a preventative or not, but from my knowledge of such an issue, it can mean a complete change in diet, meaning cutting out caffeine, etc etc, or the need for a pace maker, or indeed as a friend had happen to him, finding out it was directly related to an over active thyroid. 
Best way of looking at it, is that they've now diagnosed his problem, and will obviously take the appropriate measures to fix his issue, so that's got to be of some relief to finally have an answer.
good luck with everything there, can only improve from here on in.
colin

I did find this article though - those whose vit D blood levels are over 100 ng/ml and who are having heart symptoms should be wary:

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Of course, I always wonder whether studies like that are done with people who are taking high doses of Vit D without the cofactors. From my reading the cofactors play an essential role in protecting against toxicity.

I find it very important that people take the time to understand the Regimen and read all the background material that Batch provides us with.