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Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:28am
 
hi i'm new here, I have tried to research on cluster headaches to try and help my daughter, she has suffered with cluster headaches since she was 10 it is heartbreaking watching her when she has an attack.
She misses so much school as she not only suffers with cluster headaches but migraines and tension headaches on top, She sometimes gets all 3 headaches at the same time! she will start with a migraine then get a tension headache she then knowns with both going it wont be long till she gets a cluster to deal with too. it doesn't matter if she takes painkillers as they don't clear up quick enough before a cluster headache hits her thankfully that doesn't happen often.
As a mother watching and trying to support her though this, its hard no mum wants to see her baby girl in this state. but the Pediatricain only worry about her migraines when we go they haven't mentioned about oxygen to her, which i will be questioning when she next goes.
After an attack she tells me she goes to sleep now i was watching her yesterday and i would say it looked more like she just passes out! i presume its from all the pain she was in. 
so i have to ask do you all do that? or is she really just falling asleep after? is it normal to get more cluster headaches when you are unwell?

many thanks
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Re: mother of 13 year old girl with ch
Reply #1 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:11pm
 
Hi and welcome Emm

It must be incredibly tough for our supporters, even more so when the person with CH is a child with CH, plus migraines and tension headaches.

Are you working with a headache specialist? GPs and even most neurologists just don't have the skills and experience to deal with CH, never mind the combination of multiple headache types too. Since you only mention a pediatrician, it is highly unlikely they have the required skill and experience for anything beyond migraine, which is why they are probably just treating it as just migraine.

Do you know about OUCH UK (Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register This is a UK based support group who have plenty of experience with dealing with the NHS. They also have a support phone line and forums. There are also people here from the UK, so they may be able to give some UK centric ideas and advice.

Whilst most people with CH just have CH, there are quite a few of us who have multiple headache types (including me), with CH and migraine being probably the more common combination. This certainly makes it harder to treat as whilst many of the CH medication is also migraine medication, there can be times when treating one limits the choice of treating the other.

For both CH and migraine, you can take preventives which can cut down how many CHs / migraines she will get. The challenge is to get something which works for both which work well for her, especially being a child too.

There are also abortives, to kill off a CH / migraine. Many will work with both, although for CH the preference is to go for faster acting abortives. Again it is a complication in that she is a child, so working with the headache specialist is essential.

After a CH, especially one which hasn't been abortive, it isn't too unusual for the person to feel worn out, especially when it has been a severe and long lasting one. And with migraines, going to sleep is a pretty effective way to deal with it (although going to sleep with a CH just isn't an option).

There are multiple triggers for headaches. It is possible that some of the triggers for her will be the same for each headache type and some will be different for each. Trying to identify them may be easier with a headache diary where you note when (day / time) the headache is, plus symptoms, duration, treatments (e.g. pain killer, sumatriptan) and any comments, e.g. happened just after<something>. Over time you may be able to spot patterns.

Keep reading here, you'll learn a lot and ask any questions you have. Keep us updated with how she is doing.
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Re: mother of 13 year old girl with ch
Reply #2 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 6:16pm
 
Hi Mike and Thank you,

We are working with pediatricians that are supposed to know about ch but they only really know about migraines. I have asked to see headaches specialist and get dismissed, I'm going to really push for her to see one.

she has tried a few different treatments but because she is under 18 there isn't much they can try with her, they do seem to focus more on her migraines then the ch because she cant take anything for that at her age, but no one said about the oxygen I found that out looking on here.

I didn't know about OUCH UK thank you I will look into that for her,

She does go to sleep with a migraine she goes and hides somewhere dark, but with a ch she just cries and screams with the pain I've seen her hitting her head desperate for the pain to go away. then once its over she just falls asleep/passes out.

we have done a dairy and so far we can't find a trigger, but they do like to start in the mornings.

Thank you i will keep you updated and i will keep looking though the message board its been really helpful the D3 looks like something to start her on but first i will need to make sure with her age i can.  Smiley
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Re: mother of 13 year old girl with ch
Reply #3 - Mar 24th, 2017 at 3:39am
 
Emma,

Age has nothing to do with taking vitamin D3.  My 3 year old grand daughter Fred, a.k.a., Winefred, has been on vitamin D3 since conception.  My daughter has been taking the anti-inflammatory regimen at 10,000 IU/day vitamin D3 since 2012 along with the rest of my family.

Since she completed breastfeeding, Fred's oral vitamin D3 dose has been 50 IU/lb of body weight a day.  She was taking 1000 IU/day vitamin D3 when she weighed 20 lbs.
That dose appears to be working just fine.

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Fred has perfect vision but thinks the glasses make her look more sophisticated.  She speaks English and German.  I showed her a Bat - die Fledermaus, by crossing my thumbs and flapping my hands.  Now when I see her she runs up and says, "Wo ist die Fledermaus?"

Take care and please keep us posted.

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