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The Rape of Europe
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The German author Henryk M. Broder recently told the Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant (12 October) that young Europeans who love freedom, better emigrate. Europe as we know it will no longer exist 20 years from now. Whilst sitting on a terrace in Berlin, Broder pointed to the other customers and the passers-by and said melancholically: . . "We are watching the world of yesterday."
Europe is turning Muslim. As Broder is sixty years old he is not going to emigrate himself. "I am too old," he said. However, he urged young people to get out and "move to Australia or New Zealand. That is the only option they have if they want to avoid the plagues that will turn the old continent uninhabitable."
Many Germans and Dutch, apparently, did not wait for Broder's advice. The number of emigrants leaving the Netherlands and Germany has already surpassed the number of immigrants moving in. One does not have to be prophetic to predict, like Henryk Broder, that Europe is becoming Islamic.
Just consider the demographics. The number of Muslims in contemporary Europe is estimated to be 50 million. It is expected to double in twenty years. By 2025, one third of all European children will be born to Muslim families. Today Mohammed is already the most popular name for new-born boys in Brussels, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, and other major European cities.
Broder is convinced that the Europeans are not willing to oppose Islamization. "The dominant ethos," he told De Volkskrant, "is perfectly voiced by the stupid blonde woman author with whom I recently debated. She said that it is sometimes better to let yourself be raped than to risk serious injuries while resisting. She said it is sometimes better to avoid fighting than run the risk of death."
In a recent op-ed piece in the Brussels newspaper De Standaard (23 October) the Dutch (gay and self-declared "humanist" author Oscar Vanden Boogaard refers to Broder's interview. Van den Boogaard says that to him coping with the Islamization of Europe is like "a process of mourning." He is overwhelmed by a "feeling of sadness." "I am not a warrior," he says, "but who is? I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it."
As Tom Bethell wrote in this month's American Spectator: "Just at the most basic level of demography the secular-humanist option is not working." But there is more to it than the fact that non-religious people tend not to have as many children as religious people, because many of >them prefer to "enjoy" freedom rather than renounce it for the sake of children.
Secularists, it seems to me, are also less keen on fighting. Since they do not believe in an afterlife, this life is the only thing >they have to lose. Hence they will rather accept submission than fight. Like the German feminist Broder referred to, they prefer to be raped than to resist.
"If faith collapses, civilization goes with it," says Bethell. That is the real cause of the closing of civilization in Europe. Islamization is simply the consequence. The very word Islam means "submission" and the secularists have submitted already. Many Europeans have already become Muslims, though they do not realize it or do not want to admit it.
Some of the people I meet in the U.S. are particularly worried about the rise of anti-Semitism in Europe. They are correct when they fear that anti-Semitism is also on the rise among non-immigrant Europeans. The latter hate people with a fighting spirit. Contemporary anti-Semitism in Europe (at least when coming from native Europeans) is related to anti-Americanism. People who are not prepared to resist and are eager to submit, hate others who do not want to submit and are prepared to fight. They hate them because they are afraid that the latter will endanger their lives as well. In their view everyone must submit.
This is why they have come to hate Israel and America so much, and the small band of European "Islamophobes" who dare to talk about what they see happening around them. West Europeans have to choose between submission (Islam) or death. I fear, like Broder, that they have chosen submission - just like in former days when they preferred to be red rather than dead.
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Re: The Rape of Europe
« Reply #1 on: Dec 4th, 2006, 7:02am » |
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That's scary. Shades of Hilter again.....
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Quote:She said that it is sometimes better to let yourself be raped than to risk serious injuries while resisting. She said it is sometimes better to avoid fighting than run the risk of death."
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Must be French.
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on Dec 4th, 2006, 7:53am, chewy wrote:
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The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Please read the lies above and panic.
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Demographics of the Netherlands:
* Dutch 80.8%
* German 2.4%
* Indonesian (Indo-European, Indo-Dutch, Moluccan) 2.4%
* Turks 2.2%
* Surinamese 2.0%
* Moroccan 1.9%
* Indian 1.5%
* Antillean and Aruban 0.8%
* other 6.0%
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Hmm - 2.4% Turkish, 1.9% Morroccan - most of that 4.3% is probably Islamic. Add a bit for other and maybe some of the Indians that aren't Hindu, and you have 5%. Behold the awesome power of the tiny minority, and tremble in your wooden clogs, ye Dutchmen!!
If you look at the alarmist nonsense being circulated out there, Mohammed is supposedly also THE most popular name for boys in England! Except it isn't.
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Most popular boys names in England, in 1415 A.D. and 2005 A.D.
1 John Jack
2 William Joshua
3 Thomas Thomas
4 Robert James
5 Robyn Oliver
6 Richard Daniell
7 Nicholas Samuel
8 Henry William
9 Roger Harry
10 Rauf Joseph
11 Walter Benjamin
12 Edmund Charlie
13 Edward Luke
14 George Matthew
15 James Callum
16 Hugh Jake
17 Piers Ethan
18 Geffrey George
19 Laurence Lewis
20 Adam Alexander
Mohammed came in 23rd.
http://www.toque.co.uk/blog/archives/2006/11/top_boys_names.php
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All this racist bulloney makes the science around global warming look like ... Science! And given the fact that much of the Netherlands is below sea level, the Dutch should spend more time worrying about losing their country to the sea.
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Re: The Rape of Europe
« Reply #6 on: Dec 4th, 2006, 10:01am » |
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Leave it to Flo to turn a sectarian article into a racist article and disprove that the most popular name in a certain city is wrong by presenting the most popular names in a country.
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Re: The Rape of Europe
« Reply #7 on: Dec 4th, 2006, 10:08am » |
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My friends, move to Finland. Around 80 percent of the population belong to the The Evangelical Lutheran Church in here. Knowing my fellow Finns, that will not change in a heartbeat.
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Re: The Rape of Europe
« Reply #8 on: Dec 4th, 2006, 10:50am » |
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Hmmm. Most common new names in U.S....Juan, Paublo, Ernesto........
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"I am not a warrior," he says, "but who is? I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it."
What a sad piece of sheep!
If you are not willing to fight for it, it will be taken away.
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on Dec 4th, 2006, 10:50am, drivin_blind wrote:| Hmmm. Most common new names in U.S....Juan, Paublo, Ernesto........ |
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Guess again - the Brown invasion hasn't progressed nearly as far as some people think - or maybe they are camoflauging their kids with names like Jacob and Joshua.
Oops - forgot Bob's wagging finger. This isn't the least bit related to race. The discussion is purely sectarian, not racial.
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Re: The Rape of Europe
« Reply #11 on: Dec 4th, 2006, 11:41am » |
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on Dec 4th, 2006, 11:29am, floridian wrote:
Guess again - the Brown invasion hasn't progressed nearly as far as some people think - or maybe they are camoflauging their kids with names like Jacob and Joshua.
Oops - forgot Bob's wagging finger. This isn't the least bit related to race. The discussion is purely sectarian, not racial. |
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Re: The Rape of Europe
« Reply #12 on: Dec 4th, 2006, 12:06pm » |
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There is no doubt that Europe will be mostly Muslim by as early as 2050.
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Re: The Rape of Europe
« Reply #14 on: Dec 4th, 2006, 12:54pm » |
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Here's a quick quiz for you on such a lighthearted thread. No googling! 
1. What is the capital of Cardiff?
2. What type of passport is required to cross Hadrian’s Wall (both ways)?
3. Is Eire an island?
4. Does England have its own parliament?
5. Is Prince Harry gay?
6. At precisely what time does the first train leave in the morning (weekdays) from London Kings Cross to Rotterdam?
7. Did the ball go over the line during the world cup in 1966?
8. Can Scotland play football?
9. Who won the Ashes this year?
10. Is it my birthday today?
Scores:
1-3: Well done
4-6: Superb
7-9: Absolutely marvellous
10: Europeans, Aussies and probably Flo
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Re: The Rape of Europe
« Reply #15 on: Dec 4th, 2006, 1:13pm » |
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Oh good grief, he's been watching "University Challenge" again and has gone all pseudo intellectual
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Re: The Rape of Europe
« Reply #16 on: Dec 4th, 2006, 1:30pm » |
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on Dec 4th, 2006, 4:40am, tanner wrote:| Just consider the demographics. The number of Muslims in contemporary Europe is estimated to be 50 million. |
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on Dec 4th, 2006, 12:43pm, tanner wrote:
From link above: Today, 15 million Muslims make their home in the European Union.
Difference of opinions
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on Dec 4th, 2006, 12:54pm, LeeS wrote:Here's a quick quiz for you on such a lighthearted thread. No googling!
1. What is the capital of Cardiff?
Struck and reversed: Wales
2. What type of passport is required to cross Hadrian’s Wall (both ways)?
A passport in time. Hail Ceasar!
3. Is Eire an island?
pretty much.
4. Does England have its own parliament?
Ask the Scots!
5. Is Prince Harry gay?
I've never seen him in a bar.
6. At precisely what time does the first train leave in the morning (weekdays) from London Kings Cross to Rotterdam?
Only the working class need concern themselves with trains. Who needs the chunnel when you have a helicopter?
7. Did the ball go over the line during the world cup in 1966?
Dunno - I was only 4. But if they had one, it prolly would not have been '66.
8. Can Scotland play football?
Boy how!
9. Who won the Ashes this year?
Arthur.
10. Is it my birthday today?
It's 5:00 somewhere - lets celebrate.
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1-3: Well done
4-6: Superb
7-9: Absolutely marvellous
10: Europeans, Aussies and probably Flo
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on Dec 4th, 2006, 12:06pm, JeffB wrote:| There is no doubt that Europe will be mostly Muslim by as early as 2050. |
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Airforce Magazine has a somewhat different view:
"Incredible as it might seem, some experts predict that Europe will have an Islamic majority sometime well before the end of this century.
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Some perspective is in order. Fear that a Muslim flood is about to overwhelm the Continent has long been a theme of fringe political activists and polemicists in Europe. It is anything but inevitable; today’s population trends might shift dramatically, and the dire predictions of the death of Western civilization could well prove unfounded."
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Re: The Rape of Europe
« Reply #19 on: Dec 4th, 2006, 3:28pm » |
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As a ........ I hate to say it European........ alot of Muslims infact the vast majority are like me, you, jew, sihk, or hindu. Just ordianary people with a strong beleif in their own version of god. Now dont get me wrong I do beleive that most muslims are not terrorists but a lot of terrorists are muslim. But America has there own history of terrorism the KKK far right extremist groups and a shit load more. you just have to get it in to perspective and live and let live. As long as your own rights are not compromised. The thing that does most harm and recruits the fundamentalist is the inward looking redneck attitude that says our way is right and yours wrong. loking from the outside I would say both the US and Muslim states have their fair problems with this point of you.
PS Ive served in the Gulf so if your gonna give me greif let me know you do it from a point of knowledge and not fundamental ignorance
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Re: The Rape of Europe
« Reply #20 on: Dec 4th, 2006, 3:37pm » |
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on Dec 4th, 2006, 10:01am, Bob P wrote:| Leave it to Flo to turn a sectarian article into a racist article and disprove that the most popular name in a certain city is wrong by presenting the most popular names in a country. |
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Don't you hate it when people use verifiable statistics like this?
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Re: The Rape of Europe
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.....Minnesota Democrat Keith Ellison, the first Muslim.....
Hmmm, a Muslim named Keith, go figure.
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on Dec 4th, 2006, 4:16pm, Bob P wrote:
.....Minnesota Democrat Keith Ellison, the first Muslim.....
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What's to figure? He was given the name at birth by non-Muslim parents, and later converted.
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Re: The Rape of Europe
« Reply #23 on: Dec 4th, 2006, 5:39pm » |
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This is going to be a scary world in a few decades, enjoy it, Flo.
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Re: The Rape of Europe
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Faith is definitely the problem. Too much.
I have serious doubts of a reverse crusades. It's been tried before.
On the other hand. Islam is a different animal. There really is no separation of church and state. It's part of government which makes it a true horror.
I'm still waiting for the large and vocal response from all the Muslims that profess that they are not part of the radicals. They seem a tad quiet to me.
The not so quiet types want us dead though. We have to deal with them. It's not going to get easier soon. It makes you long for the days when Europeans could scare the shit out of this part of the world with a gunboat or two.
It's time for us to make oil not all that exciting as an export.
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