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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #650 on: Jun 15th, 2005, 1:26am » |
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I'm in the middle of my 5th week....total pain free. Haven't had the slightest hint of a CH or even a shadow.
Been on the Kudzu since Feb 24th.
Still taking it, even tho I'm pf.
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #651 on: Jun 15th, 2005, 4:32am » |
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That's great news, Jean. 
I had a 100% PF day yesterday.
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #652 on: Jun 15th, 2005, 9:20am » |
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on Jun 15th, 2005, 1:26am, TxBasslady wrote:I'm in the middle of my 5th week....total pain free. Haven't had the slightest hint of a CH or even a shadow.
Been on the Kudzu since Feb 24th.
Still taking it, even tho I'm pf.
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #653 on: Jun 16th, 2005, 9:24am » |
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Yesterday was another 100% PF day.
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #654 on: Jun 17th, 2005, 10:29am » |
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Jean,
Fantastic news!!!
I have to say that for the past 4 or is it 5 months, I have gained my life back with Kudzu. PF 95% time.
I have a normal life, sometimes gassy  Kudzu is powerful (in many different ways!!)
Have fun folks.
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #655 on: Jun 17th, 2005, 10:36am » |
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Thats freaking AWSOME!!!!!!!!!
I'm so happy for all who have found relief from the Zu.
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #656 on: Jun 17th, 2005, 4:53pm » |
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Thanks, Pegg. Yesterday was PF, too. That makes 3 in a row. Today has been PF so far also. If I get through today it will break my previous completely PF record since I became chronic in 2000. 98% PF was great....100% is incredible.
I'm doing a very tiny, non-jinxing happy dance.
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #657 on: Jun 22nd, 2005, 10:27am » |
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After 6 glorious PF days, I attempted to wean off kudzu. Mistake. I got through day 7 with only a very minor 20 minute shadow. Day 8... a very emotional day (long story...another dog) and had shadows for a total of probably 4 hours. They hung around at about a k4. Back on the full amount of kudzu again.... 
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #658 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 1:36am » |
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Totally PF..!!!!
Still taking the Kudzu....haven't got the gutz to taper off.
This is the most PF time I've had since March '04.
See y'all in Dallas.... 
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #659 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 10:34am » |
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Nani,
I too decided to experiment with tapering off. Just skipped the lunch dose to see what happens. I was OK until about 5 pm, when the shadows came in fully loaded.
Today I'm back on regular scheduled doses. It may not have been the best time to taper. Just got back from Alaska and even though the Melatonin is great to adjust to time-zone changes, I still struggled with 4-5 hours of sleep at night. (BTW, same thing over in Alaska, hard to sleep when it is so light out after midnight, even with melatonin and curtains closed...)
Anyway, in a couple of weeks I'll try again and see what happens.
Jean,
Congratulations!. I'm PF as well. I just want to be med free, yeah even 'Zu
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #660 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 2:11pm » |
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Jean...that's terrific!!!
Ozzy, I'm still not back to 98% yet. Back on 6 kudzu a day for the last week, I'm still only at about 75% PF. 
Not complaining, exactly, just tired... and I'm getting tired of the bucket o' pills I have to take everyday. I'm under a lot of stress lately so I'm not ready to stop long enough to try another alternative...YET.
Pluggin' away....
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #661 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 3:41pm » |
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So nice to hear(read ) about you all!!!!
Nani, I'm sure things will work out but for now know that life is still much better than before hand ..right???
Many hugs to all you pioneers!!!
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #662 on: Jun 30th, 2005, 8:54am » |
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Well, it happened...the daily shadows continued everyday until last night I got hit at midnight.
Funny, when you have a preventative that works, you tend to forget what real pain feels like.....damn it sucks! LOL I guess that is an understatement!
The purity of the pain is unmistakeable. It's clear-pure-shiny pain...
Well, time to go to a regular dose (instead or half a dose or less)
BTW, the Imitrex was in my hand, tears rolling down my eye... then I put it away. Needless to say I didn't get hit again last night. Today, it's only shadows, and those I can deal with..
So the lesson for me is....no tapering (yet)
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #663 on: Jun 30th, 2005, 9:37am » |
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I finally finished reading this thread from the start. Took me four days of cheating at work to do it. Anyway, I cannot express the hapiness I have for those of you who have found relief. It is well deserved. I am a verap doser so I think I need to be careful with the BP and pulse. Probably wiat till I taper off the verap as I am episodic. Just wanted to say hurrah for everyone and a very big thank you to Floridian. I feel like I have found a new religion. I guess that makes Floridian L Ron Hubbard.
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #664 on: Jul 5th, 2005, 1:35am » |
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Well...12 days now, back on 6 tablets a day. The CH activity has been erratic. One PF day, a few easy days and a few rough ones. I got hit twice today. Both at about a k7, fortunately not very long lasting (about 20 minutes each). My nose didn't get runny or stuffed and my eye wasn't very droopy either. I think it may be time to get some O2 again. 
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #665 on: Jul 15th, 2005, 2:24pm » |
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Nani,
Don't despair. Sometimes when you unbalance the system, things get erratic, the key is to keep working thru. By now you should be back on track with Kudzu, but once you get back from the convention of excesses you are going to have to start over (sorta). Don't despair, you come back to "normal" (i.e. PF) in no time.
Enjoy the convention.
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #666 on: Jul 21st, 2005, 7:24pm » |
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Kudzu never again helped me as much as it did before I totally screwed it up. 
Regretfully, I'm moving on to another alternative treatment plan. I've had a short visit to PF land, and dammit, I wanna go back. I feel like I'm letting someone down, but then I realize...I let me down.
Chronics, if you find a kudzu regime that works, keep it up. I suppose it's possible that it would of have stopped working for me after a while, most meds do.
I will update on my other treatment soon, on another thread, of course.
I continue to fully support this treatment and will help others to try it in any way I can. And rest assured, I'm not throwing away any left over 'zu.
PF wishes, nani
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #667 on: Jul 22nd, 2005, 10:08am » |
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Just some ramblings for the 5ht brains.
This thread starts with Zu as a ht1 agonist and ht2 antagonist.
Not actually being 5HT, I would surmise that zu is not metabolized by reuptake. So how would a tri-cyclic (reuptake inhibitor) effect zu? Would it be a + - type action? + would be that reuptake inhibition would increase 5HT-1 to act in conjunction with the ht-1 agonist properties of zu? - would be the increase of 5HT-2 which would fight the ht-2 antagonist properties of zu?
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #668 on: Aug 11th, 2005, 3:24pm » |
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It appears that kudzu failing a chronic sufferer after an attempted taper is not unique to me. I've just heard from someone else that has had this experience. So...chronics...if it's working for you, you may not want to risk a taper. Sorry for the bad news. ~nani
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Re: 5-HT activity in Kudzu
« Reply #669 on: Aug 14th, 2005, 3:01pm » |
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Well I dont think kudzu works for me anymore.
I just got through another cycle that was only 6 months since the last one. Ive never gotten one in the summer before. I think the kudzu worked the last time but maybe just delayed it? The cycle was very weak compared to my normal and only lasted 2 weeks. This time i took the same amount of kudzu and nothing happened. Does anyone know if maybe a tolerance develops or what? Im going back to the CB..
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